The Walking Dead Season 4

[Riceball]

I can't believe those two just watched the governor mow those people down. Any decent person would have shot him right in the head. I hope all three get eaten slowly.

I think it was because they were in shock from seeing what the Governor did. Obviously they knew that the Governor wasn't the nice guy that he appeared to be to most of the folks at Woodbury but I don't think that even they knew just how ruthless and insane he really was; gunning down some random soldiers, or taking on Rick's people is one thing but gunning down his own people came as a complete and total surprise to them which is probably why they didn't do anything. By the time it set in that the Governor was truly insane and had totally lost it they were too scared to do anything for fear of being shot themselves, with the state the Governor was in if one of them so much gave even the slightest hint of disapproving of what he did, much less hint that they might do something about it, the Governor almost certainly would have gunned them down in a heat beat.

 

[Sir Angus]

I think it was because they were in shock from seeing what the Governor did. Obviously they knew that the Governor wasn't the nice guy that he appeared to be to most of the folks at Woodbury but I don't think that even they knew just how ruthless and insane he really was; gunning down some random soldiers, or taking on Rick's people is one thing but gunning down his own people came as a complete and total surprise to them which is probably why they didn't do anything. By the time it set in that the Governor was truly insane and had totally lost it they were too scared to do anything for fear of being shot themselves, with the state the Governor was in if one of them so much gave even the slightest hint of disapproving of what he did, much less hint that they might do something about it, the Governor almost certainly would have gunned them down in a heat beat.

I see your point but disagree. Many of those "soldiers" had spent months fighting for their lives before finding Woodbury. Why no one returned fire when the Gov went scarface on them still baffles me. When you spend months fighting everyday just to survive you don't react like sheeple. There's plenty of real-world examples of that.

 

[Riceball]

I see your point but disagree. Many of those "soldiers" had spent months fighting for their lives before finding Woodbury. Why no one returned fire when the Gov went scarface on them still baffles me. When you spend months fighting everyday just to survive you don't react like sheeple. There's plenty of real-world examples of that.

And how does spending months fighting for for survival prepare you for your boss going postal on your co-workers. Sure, all of that survival times helps prepare you for when things go bad but I don't think it prepares you for when your trusted leader turn on his people all of a sudden, it's one thing if you start to see it coming but it's something else entirely when it's practically out of the blue.

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[Kerr Avon]

And how does spending months fighting for for survival prepare you for your boss going postal on your co-workers. Sure, all of that survival times helps prepare you for when things go bad but I don't think it prepares you for when your trusted leader turn on his people all of a sudden, it's one thing if you start to see it coming but it's something else entirely when it's practically out of the blue.

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Problem is, those closest to him should have KNOWN not to trust him. His actions didn't occur in a vacuum and it's not like his closest folks knew what he did. How he manipulated and lied to people constantly. Ambushing the National Guardsmen, etc. Anyone with a shred of intelligence should have known he would have potentially turned against him at any time.

 

[crabra comander]

I've see enough cults to know that people do react like sheeple.

 

[rodneyfaile]

Marilyn Manson on Talking Dead. That was entertainment!

 

[Kord Industries]

Marilyn Manson on Talking Dead. That was entertainment!

Taking all bets on the exact nature of his impairment.

 

[Kerr Avon]

I can't say I'm surprised about Carol. I disagree with her, but I understand why she did it.

As for Tyrese, he's damn lucky that someone didn't just draw and shoot him on the spot. I don't give a damn how mad you are someone else murdered your girlfriend, you don't start attacking innocent people. That's mad dog behavior and those get put down.

That was a hell of a crowd of walkers though. I was saying to some friends that it's a damn good thing that Lori wasn't driving or she'd hit the only walker for miles. And then Darryl hits one. *sigh* I'm surprised no one has been listening to radios though. I'd be worth scanning the airwaves at least every so often looking for other signs of life.

 

[red4]

I'm just wondering why Carol stopped after burning those 2 people. Weren't more people already falling ill before Tyreese discovered the burnt bodies? Wouldn't everyone in the prison have smelled the burning flesh? Also, did she kill them or wait for the illness to do that? If she waited for the illness, why didn't she just come out and say it?
Another thing. I'm having a really hard time telling if the little girl is pretending to be sad, or if she really is sad. Either she's pretending to be sad, in which case the actress is really good; or she really is sad, in which case the actress isn't very good. I'm not trying to criticize her, because she's just a kid, we can't expect all child actors to be Dakota Fanning; but given the hints of weirdness about her character, it's impossible to understand what I'm seeing when that actress is on screen.
I equate it to Macauley Culkin's performance in The Good Son. Culkin was a good actor for a kid. So when his evil little boy character pretends to be sad, the audience understands it's meant to be fake. And when his character really is sad, Culkin acts convincingly. So are we seeing the little girl's character put on an evil fake sadness, or is the actress really not able to convincingly portray sadness?

 

[Scareb]

Tyreeses girlfriend and the other guy were the first two people to show symptoms and at the time, the only 2 known infected and she tried to nip it in the bud before it spread. She obviously didn't take care of the rest because A) there were way too many sick for her to handle and B) they found what she had done. As soon as Tyreese discovered the bodies, the jig was up. The entire group would be watching for whoever did it to strike again and it just wasn't worth being crucified.

 

[blakeh1]

How did Tyrese not get bit with all those walkers?

its Hammer time...can't touch this

 

[Robiwon]

How did Tyrese not get bit with all those walkers?

its Hammer time...can't touch this

Even though he shows up in next weeks episode he may still have been bitten and just hasn't turned yet.

 

[Serenity]

I don't think Carol did it... My guess is she's covering up for the creepy little girl.

 

[Feraud]

Marilyn Manson on Talking Dead. That was entertainment!

Yep! I watched half the show but found Marilyn Manson an interesting mix of odd looking yet soft spoken guy who likes the program and made some good points with a strong dash of pulling in some very disparate social and moral connections! :lol I enjoyed his take on the show.
We dvr'd the program and will re-watch tonight.

 

[YenChih Lin]

better question: how did Rick came to conclusion that Carol did it? He is a one man CSI…

 

[Riceball]

better question: how did Rick came to conclusion that Carol did it? He is a one man CSI…

Well, he is a former cop so it's not like he has 0 experience in investigative work. Granted that he was apparently just a regular beat cop and not a detective but he would probably still have some basic detective skills especially if you figure that he was probably a small town cop and he might have doubled as a detective.

 

[JBReplicas]

I don't think Carol did it... My guess is she's covering up for the creepy little girl.

Hmm, I don't think she'd be capable of hauling 2 adult corpses outside alone and then torching them, Carol on the other hand has clearly developed a very definitive survival ethos, it literally is kill or be killed for her now, she see's a threat and eliminates it, and man can she kick over a water barrel

 

[red4]

man can she kick over a water barrel

The placement of the spout on the barrels annoyed the hell out of me. It's about 2 gallons too high.

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Even though he shows up in next weeks episode he may still have been bitten and just hasn't turned yet.

I heard somewhere, forgot where, that Tyreese has a secret. My guess is he's immune to the zombie infection, but doesn't want to tell anyone because they might abuse or kill him for experimentation.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Hmm, I don't think she'd be capable of hauling 2 adult corpses outside alone and then torching them, Carol on the other hand has clearly developed a very definitive survival ethos, it literally is kill or be killed for her now, she see's a threat and eliminates it, and man can she kick over a water barrel

Yeah, that was my thoughts too. Carol has the strength to drag them out, but I don't think that the kid did.

I also wonder what 'evidence' that Rick found that identified Carol as being the culprit. The only thing we saw on screen was him looking at a hand print on a door, but I didn't see anything that identifiable except maybe the size of the print being smaller than his. Possibly identifying a woman, but even so, there were lots of potential people who would have had smaller hands than his. I think it was more gut instinct that Rick was following ultimately.

 

[red4]

I think it was more gut instinct that Rick was following ultimately.

Yup. That's why he confronted her and summarized her recent behavior when he said she would do anything for the group. He didn't want to outright accuse her, so he asked her instead. "Did you do it?" rather than "I think you did it."