red4
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No. Oscar (the prisoner killed at Woodbury) shot him in the head in the same episode that Lori died.
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No. Oscar (the prisoner killed at Woodbury) shot him in the head in the same episode that Lori died.
red4
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I haven't read the comics, and I don't watch Talking Dead (don't have AMC), but I'm surprised no one has mentioned it here: Based on her conversation with Beth, and her reaction to the baby, Michonne was obviously a mother. To me that's the most interesting thing that has happened / been revealed in the new season. Also, based on what Michonne said about the walkers she had in chains, I'm starting to put a story together about Michonne's life before the outbreak.
Potential spoilers if they turn out to be true:
If my speculation is accurate, I find Michonne about a thousand times more interesting now. I know what drives her now, and I really like it. When Michonne broke into tears, everything made sense to me. I teared up a little too.
Potential spoilers if they turn out to be true:
One of the chained zombies was Michonne's abusive husband or boyfriend who fathered her child. The pregnancy/child was the only thing that made her happy, which helped her cope with the abusive relationship. The baby was obviously lost before the outbreak, or near the beginning. Michonne was a delicate person before the outbreak, but the events leading up and into it flipped her 180 degrees in the same way it did to the Governor (if we are to believe he was a simple, white collar father). Being exposed to a healthy new baby in the prison overwhelms Michonne with memories of the only thing that made her happy before the outbreak, which is what causes her to break down.
If my speculation is accurate, I find Michonne about a thousand times more interesting now. I know what drives her now, and I really like it. When Michonne broke into tears, everything made sense to me. I teared up a little too.
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Well they did have the executive producer on there and his reaction kind of looked like they may have been right.
Interesting fact: My friend Chris was the guy they modeled the zombie after in the FCBD comic (which also appeared in an issue of Playboy) who bit Michonne's boyfriend and turned him.
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I don't think its him since the hand we see holding the rat looks like very light skin (unless they used a different actor/actress to hold the rat)
I'm guessing it was the little girl who was feeding the walkers
The person who burned the bodies might not necessarily be the same person who was fedding the rats. It could have been Carol who burned the bodies. Maybe she figured they were as good as dead anyway, so she killed them to make they couldn't turn, and burned them to disinfect them. She has been on a real "got to handle things" type of kick
CB2001
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Actually, it looks like whoever is feeding the Walkers is wearing black gloves (I could be wrong).
red4
Sr Member
Not in the show. In the show, she has not yet revealed who those zombies were. The most she's ever said about those zombies is, "They weren't human to begin with". Absolutely no other detail has been revealed.
.:MirrorminD:.
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red4
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I'm curious to know if he was always a tyrannical psychopath, or if he was honest when he told Andrea he used to be a regular, white collar father and husband. Heck, he might have been blue collar, but I get a white collar vibe from him.
CB2001
Master Member
From what I remember reading, David Morrissey stated in an interview that he read the novel Rise of the Governor in order to prepare for his role. Makes sense to me.
CelticRuins
Sr Member
I'm wondering if these 2 new little girls will be modeled over the two twin boys from the comics. With the one boy who went insane and killed his twin. Their father Alan, looked like the little girls' father. And the actions of these two little girls are playing out like the twin boys.
They both have serious issues. And the youngest said, "You're so stupid and weak" (or something along those lines), and I could have sworn one of the twin boys said that to the other one.
They both have serious issues. And the youngest said, "You're so stupid and weak" (or something along those lines), and I could have sworn one of the twin boys said that to the other one.
.:MirrorminD:.
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Wouldn't expect much info on that, think of it as more of what has the Gov, Martinez, and Shumpert been up to since we last saw them
Although, in the graphic novels and book, the Gov was a wuss. His brother Phillip was the tough guy, when he died the Gov took his name and became who he is now.
Kirkman wrote episode 3 and episode 9. Episode 9 is the episode that will be the most similar to the graphic novel.
Interesting theory, and the one girl is good at drawing and naming zombies.
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.:MirrorminD:.'s disclaimer for mods/admins/and the good ol' AMC intern lurkers (so we meet again): all my posts are of course speculation only. No insider info here, just piecing stuff together from interviews
Sir Angus
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Sorry for the length ... I watch TWD on itunes and don't want to read any spoilers.
The prison uses keyed locks. They've shown us that several times including the most recent episode. Also, I agree with whoever already said paranonia keeps you alive ... They got lazy and comfortable. I would've been shutting my door every night. Also, Tyreese's woman is to blame for all those deaths. She clearly heard something in the bathroom but did a poor job of looking around since he was laying on the ground a few feet away from her. Then seconds after she lays down she somehow doesn't hear Patrick making obvious zombie noises walking behind her nor the commotion one cell over of the guy getting attacked. Yeah, I know he couldn't yell because his throat was ripped out but she should've heard a pin drop it was so quiet.
The cheval de frise (spike wood barrier) they built flanking the gate seemed very effective at keeping the zombies away. I would've continued to build more eventually outlining their entire perimeter. Then in between the chainlink fences they could construct Hesco barriers. We built thousands of them in OIF/OEF they're super easy to build and with a bit of care can be stacked.
Fire takes a very long time to kill zombies and creates a bigger hazard because unless you somehow contain them they're wander around setting other stuff on fire until they finally die.
I think its Lizzie ... As her sister said, "Lizzie isn't weak, she's messed up." I see her like Beth was until Judith was born. The trauma of the new world is too much for her to process.
I couldn't agree more! I really like Michonne's character development this season. She's friendly, helpful, and smiles. There seems to be a little something between her and Rick. She obviously likes Carl. But she's still a strong "warrior woman" ... Although the scene with Judith was really powerful. I think she must've had a child that's now dead.
When Tyreese went looking for his girlfriend they showed blood on the pillow as if the "sickness" had gotten them. I wouldn't be surprised if the "elders" decided it was better to secretly dispose of the sick and burned the bodies as a sanitary measure. This is all about the greater good. They've got limited medical supplies and have to protect the heathly just like they did during the black plague.
The prison uses keyed locks. They've shown us that several times including the most recent episode. Also, I agree with whoever already said paranonia keeps you alive ... They got lazy and comfortable. I would've been shutting my door every night. Also, Tyreese's woman is to blame for all those deaths. She clearly heard something in the bathroom but did a poor job of looking around since he was laying on the ground a few feet away from her. Then seconds after she lays down she somehow doesn't hear Patrick making obvious zombie noises walking behind her nor the commotion one cell over of the guy getting attacked. Yeah, I know he couldn't yell because his throat was ripped out but she should've heard a pin drop it was so quiet.
The cheval de frise (spike wood barrier) they built flanking the gate seemed very effective at keeping the zombies away. I would've continued to build more eventually outlining their entire perimeter. Then in between the chainlink fences they could construct Hesco barriers. We built thousands of them in OIF/OEF they're super easy to build and with a bit of care can be stacked.
Fire takes a very long time to kill zombies and creates a bigger hazard because unless you somehow contain them they're wander around setting other stuff on fire until they finally die.
I think its Lizzie ... As her sister said, "Lizzie isn't weak, she's messed up." I see her like Beth was until Judith was born. The trauma of the new world is too much for her to process.
I couldn't agree more! I really like Michonne's character development this season. She's friendly, helpful, and smiles. There seems to be a little something between her and Rick. She obviously likes Carl. But she's still a strong "warrior woman" ... Although the scene with Judith was really powerful. I think she must've had a child that's now dead.
When Tyreese went looking for his girlfriend they showed blood on the pillow as if the "sickness" had gotten them. I wouldn't be surprised if the "elders" decided it was better to secretly dispose of the sick and burned the bodies as a sanitary measure. This is all about the greater good. They've got limited medical supplies and have to protect the heathly just like they did during the black plague.
Kerr Avon
Master Member
The blood could have just as easily been from a lead pipe to the forehead or knife through the ear.
I absolutely agree bodies should have been burnt, but executing a sick person or a person who may not even have the sickness they are concerned about is over the line.
Solo4114
Master Member
I don't disagree. that's probably also why that is at least going to be suspected, or will actually be the case. It'll add more tension within the walls.
I've been wondering if some of this hasn't been partially orchestrated by the Governor as a way to secure the prison. Set the people inside it against each other while simultaneously begin sabotaging the perimeter fence. Then he can roll in, clear out the "biters" and take over. The loony girl feeding "Nick" could be a valid theory, but it could also be a red herring for someone else who thinks Rick and his people can't be trusted, or who was simply loyal to the Governor and wanted to control the prison or even just get revenge for destroying Woodbury.
I've been wondering if some of this hasn't been partially orchestrated by the Governor as a way to secure the prison. Set the people inside it against each other while simultaneously begin sabotaging the perimeter fence. Then he can roll in, clear out the "biters" and take over. The loony girl feeding "Nick" could be a valid theory, but it could also be a red herring for someone else who thinks Rick and his people can't be trusted, or who was simply loyal to the Governor and wanted to control the prison or even just get revenge for destroying Woodbury.
Sir Angus
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Very true about the lead pipe or knife ... It's a hard call to make but desperate times call for desperate measures. One sick kid caused the death of like 15 people. That's too high of an attrition rate to ignore.
Interesting theories ... I'm just not as convinced the Governor has the support or capability to pull off that kind of a plan. If he was still running Woodbury than I'd be more inclined to agree.
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