The Walking Dead Season 3

[SmilingOtter]

And what's with the yellow wobbly circle? Is that the new false thermal image system that makes a tank look like a truck or a car?

It does say "CHAMELEON"...

 

[rodneyfaile]

I think they prefer Hyundai.

 

[Sir Angus]

Assuming you can get through the thick crowds of walkers that'd surely surround a military depot after it had fallen, so when it runs out of fuel, the AC stops functioning right? Assuming it has AC? So you're stuck in an iron box that heats up in the sun, potentially surrounded by hundreds if not thousands of walkers attracted by the noise it probably generates. So how do you go? Do you leap in the crowd of walkers after being driven insane by the sound of them pounding on the outside of it after a few days, do you eat a bullet, or do you expire from heat exhaustion and dehydration?

And what's with the yellow wobbly circle? Is that the new false thermal image system that makes a tank look like a truck or a car?

All the images were from google searches, but yeah the yellow circle seems to be highlighting equipment marked "Chameleon".


Not sure what makes you think there's going to be "crowds of walkers" around a military base, especially if its abandoned. They're often pretty remote. Based on the show, walkers tend to hang out where they got killed until they're either drawn somewhere else or join a herd.

All 3 vehicles I mentioned specifically run on normal diesel. All (in modern configurations) have A/C, and much like any vehicle if the A/C stops then you open a window. Yes, they all have hatches that can be opened without opening a door. As far as heat, that's a personal issue. I've lived the last 6 years in the middle east using vehicles just like this, so you either get used to it or stop whinning.

What makes you think any of these are any louder then the product placement 2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Glen drove in the last episode? I drive a 2003 F250 diesel now and its not bad, but the new ones are as quiet as a gas truck.

Finally, in the year the groups been together they've only had to drive through a herd twice. Both times their civilian vehicles miraclously emerged with virtually no damage. Try that in real life and those vehicles would've been disabled in short order.

But to be fair everyone has their own survival plan ... I intend to live as long as possible in this type of scenerio.

 

[astroboy]

I've been trying to figure out the real problem with the way they're handling woodbury. I'm a big fan of the comic and the prison arc was amazing.

But I think I figured it out.

Andrea.

The fact that she's in woodbury has softened everything about it. there's nothing creepy about the place or the governor because we spend so much time with him being nice to her.

She's also gotten dumber to us because we have her blindly going along with everything that's come out of the governors' mouth.

Life would have been way better if she was with the gang and we were introduced to Woodbury by a different means. Because at this point, The Governor is just as sympathetic as rick is

 

[Kerr Avon]

Not sure what makes you think there's going to be "crowds of walkers" around a military base, especially if its abandoned. They're often pretty remote. Based on the show, walkers tend to hang out where they got killed until they're either drawn somewhere else or join a herd.

Same reason as in "Dawn of the Dead" when half the group was so raring to go to a nearby reservist base. People will do that when stuff goes down, thinking the military will protect them. They'll get a large and uncontrollable group in the area. A single person who turns starts a tidal wave of attacks and unless it could be taken out real fast, an uncontrollable crowd of walkers within your own base. Military base falls practically overnight. Then, assuming the survivors don't destroy fences or barriers while trying to escape (if any do manage to escape) you've got a large zombie population at the military base.

 

[Kerr Avon]

I've been trying to figure out the real problem with the way they're handling woodbury. I'm a big fan of the comic and the prison arc was amazing.

But I think I figured it out.

Andrea.

Yup.

Kill. Andrea. Now.

 

[Riceball]

Same reason as in "Dawn of the Dead" when half the group was so raring to go to a nearby reservist base. People will do that when stuff goes down, thinking the military will protect them. They'll get a large and uncontrollable group in the area. A single person who turns starts a tidal wave of attacks and unless it could be taken out real fast, an uncontrollable crowd of walkers within your own base. Military base falls practically overnight. Then, assuming the survivors don't destroy fences or barriers while trying to escape (if any do manage to escape) you've got a large zombie population at the military base.

I don't think that most military bases would have any larger a walker population than any other populated area of its size. I think that the bigger worry would be any survivors holed up on the base, they'd probably have withdrawn to the most secure part of the base and taken anything that rolls with them. If the base has been evacuated then after a while the walker population would have gone down as the walkers start to eventually wander off of the base.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Note though, if the survivors escaping DON'T take out barricades or fences, then the barricades and fences will do just as good a job holding that zombie population in as well as out.

 

[Riceball]

Note though, if the survivors escaping DON'T take out barricades or fences, then the barricades and fences will do just as good a job holding that zombie population in as well as out.

That would depend a lot on where and where the breakout happens. Depending on the time of the year and the day of the week you could have a large number of the personnel assigned to the base out on leave for the holidays or out in town if on a weekend or even overseas on deployment. It also depends on the base, some would be a lot harder to completely secure than others. I know for a fact that both Pendleton and 29 Palms would be hard to completely secure, in the case of Pendleton the base is very spread out across the land it sits on and I've heard stories of illegals accidentally straying into impact ranges there as they cross the border. 29 Palms would be a little easier since the main part of the base occupies only a small part of the actual base but it may not be possible to include the tankers part of the base inside a perimeter. As small as the base proper is on 29 Palms it's still a good bit larger than Woodbury.

 

[MooCriket]

I figure if it got to the point where Uncle Sam saw that the country was being over run, the nukes would be used. You would incinerate a good portion, and perhaps the rest would freeze in the nuclear winter.

 

[crabra comander]

There are plenty of facilities that could lock down and have the personnel necessary to keep things running. Regardless of whether VIP's made it in or not.

Of course you could be stuck there, but these facilities are usually in remote locations, I.E., Area 51...

 

[MooCriket]

An abandoned missile silo might be a good place, provided you had enough rations.

 

[Sir Angus]

I figure if it got to the point where Uncle Sam saw that the country was being over run, the nukes would be used. You would incinerate a good portion, and perhaps the rest would freeze in the nuclear winter.

Problem with a nuclear solution is that it still depends on people doing their jobs. Its not like the President (or any one person) can just push a button and missiles start launching. Also, doing it on US soil brings up a whole host of other issues ... You've basically turned the entirety of this continent into Chernobyl and uninhabitable for thousands of years.

The only thing that makes military installations secure are the guards. They aren't prisons. People end up on military bases accidentally all the time. Even if your (Kerr Avon) situation happened once the base was overrun there would be nothing continuing to draw in zombies. Much like many of these small towns in the show there's typically only at most few thousand personnel assigned to any given base.

 

[rodneyfaile]

I live on the coast, so my thought is an island. I dont see zombies swimming.

I think the alligators would take care of a lot of them. Hopefully they dont become zombie-gators.

Just have to take the boat into town to forage for supplies every now and then.

 

[Lord Boron]

Oil rig. Even if they could swim, they are getting onto the rig. You would just have to make sure you stock up on provisions, and try to find one out of the hurricane zones. You could fish for food. Water would be the biggest problem. You might be able to desalinate sea water.

 

[robstyle]

Disneyland. They spent millions keeping people out that havent paid so I imagine it can keep zombies out as well.

 

[Jannix Quinn]

Cruise liner.

 

[Monkey67]

Zombies can swim, they have before in movies. ok, they mostly just float around or walk on the floor. they're not winning the gold medal thats for sure..unless they dope. The zombies in the last RE movie swam tho.

Disney would be cool, but you better bring the guns.

 

[Riceball]

There are plenty of facilities that could lock down and have the personnel necessary to keep things running. Regardless of whether VIP's made it in or not.

Of course you could be stuck there, but these facilities are usually in remote locations, I.E., Area 51...

I don't think that you could completely lock down and secure Area 51, from what I've seen of it it's mostly in the open with, at best, a chain link fence around the outside perimeter but I'm not sure that it's separated from the rest of Groom Lake(?) in any way except for maybe a check point.

D.C. and the surrounding area would be a better choice, assuming that you could get past all of the walkers and that gov't officials haven't bunkered down themselves. The White House would be fairly secure with that nice fence all around it and there are any number of secret and not so secret gov't bunkers in and around the D.C. area, I know one is open to the public and is a tourist attraction (I think).

 

[firesprite]

I don't think that you could completely lock down and secure Area 51, from what I've seen of it it's mostly in the open with, at best, a chain link fence around the outside perimeter but I'm not sure that it's separated from the rest of Groom Lake(?) in any way except for maybe a check point.

D.C. and the surrounding area would be a better choice, assuming that you could get past all of the walkers and that gov't officials haven't bunkered down themselves. The White House would be fairly secure with that nice fence all around it and there are any number of secret and not so secret gov't bunkers in and around the D.C. area, I know one is open to the public and is a tourist attraction (I think).

Actually the vast majority of Area 51 is supposedly underground.