The Walking Dead Season 2 Trailer

[StevenRogers84]

I have to wonder...would Shane sacrifice himself for anybody?

Carl and Lori I am sure that he would. He probably would for other innocents
As well. I feel that inside his heart Shane is not a bad man. Just a very logical and determined one. If he hadn't done what he did to Otis both Otis and himself would most likely be dead. Not to mention Carl which is why he sacrificed Otis in the first place.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Carl and Lori I am sure that he would. He probably would for other innocents
As well. I feel that inside his heart Shane is not a bad man. Just a very logical and determined one. If he hadn't done what he did to Otis both Otis and himself would most likely be dead. Not to mention Carl which is why he sacrificed Otis in the first place.

No offense, but you're a terrible read of character. Shane is a ******* that would sacrifice his own mother if it meant the difference between him living and dieing. He would sacrifice every other person in their group to save Carl and Lori's life, and sacrifice Carl and Lori to save himself. He is going to do whatever is necessary to ensure his own survival, don't you forget that.

 

[StevenRogers84]

No offense, but you're a terrible read of character. Shane is a ******* that would sacrifice his own mother if it meant the difference between him living and dieing. He would sacrifice every other person in their group to save Carl and Lori's life, and sacrifice Carl and Lori to save himself. He is going to do whatever is necessary to ensure his own survival, don't you forget that.

I disagree. He will do what's neccasary, but your describing an evil selfish man. I don't see shane in this light at this time maybe that will change should he do something to change my mind when the show returns.

 

[Kerr Avon]

I disagree. He will do what's neccasary, but your describing an evil selfish man. I don't see shane in this light at this time maybe that will change should he do something when the show returns.

Good men don't level a shotgun at the back of their friend in order to keep their wife for themselves.

 

[StevenRogers84]

Good men don't level a shotgun at the back of their friend in order to keep their wife for themselves.

He didnt pull the trigger. Put yourself in his shoes dealing with every thing he has had to. Bottom line he didn't pull the trigger an evil selfish man would not have hesitated. Again until he proves otherwise I don't see him in the same light others do.

 

[StevenRogers84]

Good men don't level a shotgun at the back of their friend in order to keep their wife for themselves.

Also Rick is only still alive and breathing because of Shane does no remember Shane the door to Ricks hospital room? And if was such an ******* he would have never risked his life in the first place to get medical supplies for Carl.

 

[Kerr Avon]

He didnt pull the trigger. Put yourself in his shoes dealing with every thing he has had to. Bottom line he didn't pull the trigger an evil selfish man would not have hesitated. Again until he proves otherwise I don't see him in the same light others do.

Shane didn't pull the trigger, but that doesn't mean he WANTED to, he's a COP and he's not STUPID. If he had, what would have happened? Rick lays dead on the ground, shotgun wound to the back. Others come running at the sound of gun fire. They find Shane there and Rick dead, clearly shot in the back. That immediately puts him in a very bad spot with the rest of the group. Even worse, Dale was in the immediate vicinity, he would have likely seen Shane murder Rick. So he'd be forced to either kill Dale, or try to explain to the others what was going on. If he killed Dale, then he has to explain TWO deaths in immediate succession by his own hand with no clear reason.

Action, effect, fallout. You gotta think about these things. He didn't kill Rick because it was simply an act he couldn't get away with at that time and he KNEW it.

On the other hand, he killed Otis because he had reason to suspect he could get away with it. And with many of the group, he did. Dale having seen Shane about to murder Rick knows Shane well enough to suspect his story.

Please people, study cause and effect. It all then becomes so obvious.

 

[StevenRogers84]

Whatever you say man. He has had ample opportunity to kill Rick since then. He hasn't not only that, but witnesses would not have stopped him if he was as cold blooded as you think he is. He would have just killed Dale as well. Or anyone else that was needed. Shane isn't the type of guy to not do what he intends to do.

Shane didn't pull the trigger, but that doesn't mean he WANTED to, he's a COP and he's not STUPID. If he had, what would have happened? Rick lays dead on the ground, shotgun wound to the back. Others come running at the sound of gun fire. They find Shane there and Rick dead, clearly shot in the back. That immediately puts him in a very bad spot with the rest of the group. Even worse, Dale was in the immediate vicinity, he would have likely seen Shane murder Rick. So he'd be forced to either kill Dale, or try to explain to the others what was going on. If he killed Dale, then he has to explain TWO deaths in immediate succession by his own hand with no clear reason.

Action, effect, fallout. You gotta think about these things. He didn't kill Rick because it was simply an act he couldn't get away with at that time and he KNEW it.

On the other hand, he killed Otis because he had reason to suspect he could get away with it. And with many of the group, he did. Dale having seen Shane about to murder Rick knows Shane well enough to suspect his story.

Please people, study cause and effect. It all then becomes so obvious.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Whatever you say man. He has had ample opportunity to kill Rick since then. He hasn't not only that, but witnesses would not have stopped him if he was as cold blooded as you think he is. He would have just killed Dale as well. Or anyone else that was needed. Shane isn't the type of guy to not do what he intends to do.

Expect a "I told you so" later on. :lol

BTW, again, he's not stupid. He knows he needs people and the more people around the more he can sacrifice to save his own ass. He's not going to start something he knows is going to involve having to kill everyone else in camp either, because he certainly knows Lori and Carl won't react well to that either. Again, he's NOT stupid.

 

[StevenRogers84]

Expect a "I told you so" later on. :lol

BTW, again, he's not stupid. He knows he needs people and the more people around the more he can sacrifice to save his own ass. He's not going to start something he knows is going to involve having to kill everyone else in camp either, because he certainly knows Lori and Carl won't react well to that either. Again, he's NOT stupid.

Ricks the one to watch. Expect a (I told you so later):lol

He is the most mentally unstable of the group.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Ricks the one to watch. Expect a (I told you so later):lol

He is the most mentally unstable of the group.

I never said Rick doesn't have some mental issues. If they retain some of the comics story, then he'll have some pretty serious issues.

But his mental issues will NEVER involve sacrificing one of his people for his own life. Shane's will. That's the difference between the two. Rick at HIS core IS a good man. Shane isn't. They're showing us the dichotomy of the two characters.

 

[StevenRogers84]

I never said Rick doesn't have some mental issues. If they retain some of the comics story, then he'll have some pretty serious issues.

But his mental issues will NEVER involve sacrificing one of his people for his own life. Shane's will.

I guess it's a waiting game to see who snaps first... :lol

 

[Scareb]

For once, I'm with Kerr on this. Shane Would kill Rick no problem if he could get away with it. Way too much to explain if he shot Rick in season 1 and no matter what, he would still be the bad guy.

He could of easily killed Dale in the swamp with the guns, but people would of come looking for the body, more questions, more raised eyebrows.

No one was there to witness Shane shoot Otis. He shot him out of survival. Shane will do whatever it takes to survive.

If it meant surviving, Shane would put one in the stomach of any of the group.

 

[DoubleD]

Yeah, I have to agree with Kerr too. While I think Shane has a more realistic view on how a leader should look after the group than Rick, I don't think he'd hesitate to throw anyone under the bus if it meant saving his butt or perhaps even to prove a point.

 

[MooCriket]

StevenRogers84, you could not be possibly more wrong about Shane. Perhaps if I had not read the comics I would feel somewhat different about the character, but I doubt it based on what we have seen. Still, I like the drama his character brings to the show. I am happy this is one change they have made from the comics.

Boon Dock Saint gives hopes to the diehard Walking Dead fans for the second part of season 2!
The Walking Dead Exclusive: Norman Reedus Teases "Darker" Times Ahead - TV Fanatic

 

[StevenRogers84]

StevenRogers84, you could not be possibly more wrong about Shane. Perhaps if I had not read the comics I would feel somewhat different about the character, but I doubt it based on what we have seen. Still, I like the drama his character brings to the show. I am happy this is one change they have made from the comics.

Boon Dock Saint gives hopes to the diehard Walking Dead fans for the second part of season 2!
The Walking Dead Exclusive: Norman Reedus Teases "Darker" Times Ahead - TV Fanatic

I have the very first printing of issue one. I have been reading the comics since #1 and still current on the story. I have read every issue multiple times. I still feel this way. I still don't think TV Shane would just allow innocents to die for no reason other than to save himself.

 

[firesprite]

StevenRogers84, you could not be possibly more wrong about Shane. Perhaps if I had not read the comics I would feel somewhat different about the character, but I doubt it based on what we have seen. Still, I like the drama his character brings to the show. I am happy this is one change they have made from the comics.

Boon Dock Saint gives hopes to the diehard Walking Dead fans for the second part of season 2!
The Walking Dead Exclusive: Norman Reedus Teases "Darker" Times Ahead - TV Fanatic

I have the very first printing of issue one. I have been reading the comics since #1 and still current on the story. I have read every issue multiple times. I still feel this way. I still don't think TV Shane would just allow innocents to die for no reason other than to save himself.

I haven't read any of the comics and I agree with Moo and Kerr.

My prediction for the season finale is that Shane will finally snap, try to kill Rick, and meet his end at Carl's hands as people have described from the comic. Mind you, as a writer, having a character like Shane around is fantastic because it gives you an easy way to create tension in the group, but in order to move the story forward, we're going to need to see him snap and be killed.

As for Rick, I hate to say it, Steven, but you're dead wrong. He's far from perfect, but he's definitely not the most mentally unstable member of the group right now. I'd put Shane, Laurie, Carol, and Dale ahead of him on the scale of instability.

 

[MooCriket]

Wow. Interesting take on Shane despite having read the comics, StevenRogers84. Well, we will see soon enough.
some spoilery pics possibly from season 3:

Spoiler

 

[StevenRogers84]

As for Rick, I hate to say it, Steven, but you're dead wrong. He's far from perfect, but he's definitely not the most mentally unstable member of the group right now. I'd put Shane, Laurie, Carol, and Dale ahead of him on the scale of instability.

Rick is letting all of it fall on his shoulders. He is making himself carry the burden of everything that goes on. Putting that bullet in Sophias head is going to drive him crazy. Not to mention we as the viewers don't know what mr.CDC said to Rick which I am sure will come out sooner or later. If you read the comics you would know how much Kirkman likes to torture Rick. Rick is or rather will be worse than shane...eventually.(My Prediction for both the comics and TV show) I hope that the fact that they have moved away from the comic series so far already...means that they won't go the cheap route and destroy Shanes character, but find other ways to tell their TV stories.

That also means I hope the don't introduce Michonne in the same way they did in the comics.

 

[MooCriket]

On a side note, I would love to see Clancy Brown as the Governor.

Or why not Gary Busey!

And let's not forget that Rick Moranis is going to make a debut soon.