Martymcfly2015
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This. Is. Awesome!!!!
The Ultimate Marty McFly Jean Jacket Lining Thread
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I agree. And there’s more to come.
Oh you thought I was done? NOPE!
There’s actually a mistake on his right hand paisley sleeve lining. It looks like they’re either cut the material too short or didn’t have enough continuous material left to finish the sleeve so the last inch/inch and a half before the opening in the cuff is stitched in/attached to the rest of the material.
Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And it makes it really obvious when this jacket is on screen.
And you know it’s an error because the same detail isn’t present on the other sleeve:
Just one more detail to get these jackets as close to accurate as possible.
Wonder what I’ll share next…
There’s actually a mistake on his right hand paisley sleeve lining. It looks like they’re either cut the material too short or didn’t have enough continuous material left to finish the sleeve so the last inch/inch and a half before the opening in the cuff is stitched in/attached to the rest of the material.
Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And it makes it really obvious when this jacket is on screen.
And you know it’s an error because the same detail isn’t present on the other sleeve:
Just one more detail to get these jackets as close to accurate as possible.
Wonder what I’ll share next…
TheNickFox, will you incorporate the prop department mistake in the cuff for your personal replica?
Oh 100%!
Obviously the jacket in the widow of Blast from the Past doesn’t have that detail since the hero jacket was given away in 1985, but it my mind I want the hero jacket, flaws and all.
…like how Star Wars people want Vader’s C scar.
I’m still questioning why they put a different liner in the jacket in the first place instead of simply sewing in white pockets to match the existing liner.
My guess is that once they knew it might be seen on screen (Having to put the Aiwa Walkman into his pocket, or tucking the Save the Clocktower flyer inside), Deb Scott likely decided to give it a little visual interest so it wouldn't just look flat on screen.
Or maybe she just had the lining fabrics already and was looking for a way to use them. Who knows.
Seems like they did take the time to add some sort of liner like the 1985 version did. Not 100% sure if it’s paisley. If it is, it means they had a good amount of this fabric. Makes me wonder if they got it from something already available.
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That’s my theory.
The orientation of the paisley pills with the edge of the cuff doesn’t match any shot I can find. So it’s either something they made as a second for the first movie, something that we just never see the cuffs of in the first movie, or something made entirely for part 2 (probably in case they needed Marty to wear it)
They most definitely made more than one jacket for the first movie. They have to account for accidents happening that make the prop unusable. The costume designer probably bought a whole store out just for the jackets. Maybe even multiple stores just to have the same size every time. Would also explain the rarity of the jacket on top of all of the other reasons. A good majority of them were all bought by the studio lol Now this begs the question. What happened to them all? Especially the one in Part II. They seemed to have kept a good amount of other pieces of the costume but not the signature one. Maybe someone kept or stole them from the set.
As far as I’ve been able to deduce there were 3 total jackets:
Teen Beat (this has the lining error on the cuff) - lost in Hurricane Katrina
Alternate Movie 1 jacket (no cuff error) - only can be seen in a couple shots to my eye. This appear to be the jacket that was sewn into one of the vests and was last seen in 1991 in the hands of a private collector. The collector and jacket have been MIA ever since.
Blast to the Past Jacket - only see in that window. I’m guessing Universal still has this one somewhere. But may entirely be a replica with no Guess parts on it.
Alright, I may do a full write up on this at some point but the reason I’ve dug this thread up. The reason I’ve been revealing more and more is because I’ve been building up to something we’ve been dreaming of for a LONG TIME.
THE LINING HAS BEEN FOUND
It came from one of these vintage shirts. (The brand is being withheld at the request of other people who independently made this discovery)
Beyond that, I invested weeks of my life into perfectly replicating it line-for-line and dot-for-dot.
I’ll be making it available soon in the JY just as soon as I finalize a few pieces of production.
It was only a matter of time…
THE LINING HAS BEEN FOUND
It came from one of these vintage shirts. (The brand is being withheld at the request of other people who independently made this discovery)
Beyond that, I invested weeks of my life into perfectly replicating it line-for-line and dot-for-dot.
I’ll be making it available soon in the JY just as soon as I finalize a few pieces of production.
It was only a matter of time…
Whoa! Now that is something I did not expect. Makes me think the paisley liner was maybe also a shirt. Not sure what else paisley is generally put on.
Yeah, that's the current working theory on my end as well. Most of the paisley from the era was much pointier than Marty's so if we see it, it should be obvious.
...though I haven't ruled out bedsheets as a source yet.
Check back in another 38 years. lol
Haha! As with anything in movies, off the rack items might not even be from the decade the movie was made in. Could be a shirt from the 70s and below.Yeah, that's the current working theory on my end as well. Most of the paisley from the era was much pointier than Marty's so if we see it, it should be obvious.
...though I haven't ruled out bedsheets as a source yet.
Check back in another 38 years. lol
To quote Deb Scott "Everything was purchased locally." The hollywood shirt would have been contemporaneous with production, so more and more it's looking like things were bought new, which would make sense to make sure they could buy enough for seconds.
Ah good point.
Whether people KNOW what decade an old item is from nowadays is anyone's guess though. So many 80s products are sold as 90s on eBay. So still makes sense to cast a wide net, just in case.
KingsKnight
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Randomly decide to check in on this thread and realize how far TheNickFox has advanced it in just 2 weeks! Incredible analysis and find!
So let's do a short story time since I wasn't actually the first person to find it!
Back in March of 2023, shortly after I had tracked down the winner of the Teen Beat jacket and had confirmed it was destroyed in Hurricane Katrina, I received a message from someone telling me that London Moore had found the source of the Hollywood lining. I got the sense that the person was trying to trade that information for more info on the Teen Beat winner, and (as I've written about else where) some less savory people were not kind to her, so I wasn't going trade a woman's privacy for the source.
This person only told me "it's really rare" and "you won't believe what it came from."
Now at first glance you might just see this as someone trying to make things up to get extra info from me, but I know just how skilled of a researcher London Moore is, so I immediately believed that if anyone found it, he did. But at the time, he wasn't coming forward with the info so I decided to double down on my hunt.
For years I had been working under the theory that the paisley AND the Hollywood lining both likely came from shirts or bedsheets. So I decided to set up some new saved searches across Ebay, Etsy, Depop, Poshmark, etc to try to find it too.
There are a number of shirts I found along the way that in a thumbnail looked right, but once you saw the full image, you'd realize they were totally wrong.
Then I realized that if London had already found it, maybe I should be focusing on completed listings on those sites. Most of them don't give you great search tools for finding old listings, but that's nothing some Google magic can't help.
Bouncing ideas for search terms off other people, I eventually found the listing. A shirt, sold for under $50!
I immediately began cleaning up the pictures, stitching them together into a higher resolution composite. I hired an artist to replicate it, and by 24 hours in I realized he didn't "get" why I needed things so exact. So, I told him to just finish it in his own style, since I was going to be paying him anyway. Might as well let him have his fun.
As soon as I sent him that message, I began work on replicating the print myself, knowing that no one would ever care as much about the details as I did.
After around 3 weeks and around 200 hours of work, I began posting teases to Instagram (Interest thread currently in the JY for 100% accurate fabric, FYI). That's when London reached out.
After a couple messages we both confirmed that we had found the same thing: him in March, me in August.
And amazingly he had found some other things that didn't come across my radar at all, but I'll leave it up to him to decide if he wants to share anything about that.
All in all, pretty remarkable that 38 years later, two people found the same thing just 5 months apart. (Though I did have some help getting motivated by hearing that someone else likely found it as well)
Who knows, maybe the paisley will be next...
