The Thing prequel

[CB2001]

As for the blood on the fillings, did anyone at that point know a single alien cell could take over an entire human? I can't remember the time line of events.

Not at that time, I would guess (as I haven't seen the film yet). The only person who knew about it was Fuchs (who said, "If a small particle of this thing is enough to take over an entire organism, then everyone should prepare their own meals. And I suggest we only eat out of cans.") and that was way after the events at the Norwegian base.

 

[ghostryder]

The cast of the original Thing is duly unimpressed with the 2011 prequel

 

[Apollo]

:lol :lol :lol

 

[MooCriket]

The cast of the original Thing is duly unimpressed with the 2011 prequel

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In all fairness it really was not that bad of a film. I guess for me, my expectations were way too high.

 

[Guy Cowen]

I still cant believe its not in the UK till Dec 2nd, but Its fair to say that it sounds like the studio got too much of their own way with edit and CGI demands, a shame really as it is getting a pretty good response all round. Hopefully I Directors cut will improve what I haven't seen yet !

 

[Clutch]

It was just ok. I don't know why they couldn't have matched splitface perfectly. The original looked like one face that had just stretched apart, not two heads melded together with two sets of teeth.

Did anyone think there was potential for avalanche with the base set up at the foot of that giant mountain? :lol

 

[ConvergencePro]

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English guy tries to radio for help and Lars sneaks up and slits his throat to stop him so the thing can't escape.

Pretty sure the guy cut his own throat and wrists. He has the knife in his dead frozen hands. Not to mention the director has said that there's a 3 minute deleted scene where he kills himself, but it was cut cause it apparently messed with the flow of the moment so it was removed. (blu-ray extra anyone?)

 

[CB2001]

Pretty sure the guy cut his own throat and wrists. He has the knife in his dead frozen hands. Not to mention the director has said that there's a 3 minute deleted scene where he kills himself, but it was cut cause it apparently messed with the flow of the moment so it was removed. (blu-ray extra anyone?)

There's actually been a lot of debate about it with the fans over the years, especially at the Outpost #31 website. But the general consensus is that...

Spoiler

He was murdered by another human, as when you see his remains in Carpenter's film, his throat's slice is really deep in a way that no human being could possibly do it to themselves.

But honest, I don't know. I say it....

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... was a suicide and then someone else discovered him later and slit his throat just to make sure that he was really dead and he wasn't faking it.

 

[superDrool]

Yeah that gash was extrememly deep. No one could cut that deep alone, either there was outside assistance or he was a buddhist monk trained in suicide. :lol

 

[CB2001]

My parents and I are going to go see it tomorrow. I honestly thought about doing an analysis of the flame throwers used in Carpenter's movie (much like how I did the Left 4 Dead medpack a while back).

 

[Lord Boron]

I was always curious why an arctic science research station had all these flamethrowers around.

 

[CB2001]

I was always curious why an arctic science research station had all these flamethrowers around.

From what I remember reading about the original novella, the flame throwers were used to de-ice the wings of airplanes that would come to the base. It could be possible the same is true for the film, except not just for airplane wings. But its possible they use it to clear out large areas of snow for specific reasons (like lets say for some reason the Thiokol got stuck, they could potentially clear a small path with the flame thrower so the Thiokol didn't have to work as hard to get out of whatever deep rut it was in). Basically, the flame throwers were meant as a utility tool, not as a weapon, before the Thing finally came to the base (it was after the Thing's arrival when it became useful as a weapon).

 

[CB2001]

I saw it earlier today. Like many others said, it wasn't great, but it was pretty good.

 

[Flagg]

I watched it this afternoon and felt it was worth seeing. I didn't walk out going "I want my $10 back." I thought that for the most part it lined up with the JC movie fairly well. As others stated the alien shape threw things off a bit but not enough to ruin it for me. I felt the "power source" thingy inside the ship was HORRIBLE though. That effect needed a do over in a bad way.

I also felt that the people who became "Things" in this one seemed kind of random. In the JC version you could still see the logic of who became one and when, this one felt kind of random with some of the monsters.

 

[CB2001]

I also felt that the people who became "Things" in this one seemed kind of random. In the JC version you could still see the logic of who became one and when, this one felt kind of random with some of the monsters.

Well, if you look at the Thing in this film, you discover the logic clearly as this: It had never had any human interaction before. So, it has no idea about who was the "leader" or "who do I need to take out who could discover me?" in this interaction, because it didn't know anything about who's who and which ones were important or the most dangerous to it. It's much like why the Thing in the current film appears more upfront and aggressive, and why it took its time and tried to stay as hidden as possible in Carpenter's film (because it learned from its experience at the Norwegian base that humans can be pretty aggressive when it did a full-on assault like it did and that the best method of trying to survive is to try to keep as much of a low profile as possible). By the time it reached Outpost #31, it knew very well what a leader was, what a doctor was, what a pilot was, what a mechanic was (and so on) from the people it absorbed at the Norwegian camp. As a result, it was able to walk around camp at Outpost #31 the day it arrived so to study them and to discover who was in what position, so it could attempt to plot out a "plan of attack" so to speak. When it was put into the dog cage, it pretty much thought, "Oh, look! Easy prey! I can absorb these dogs and no one at the base would know it." Unfortunately, it wasn't expecting for the noise caused by the dogs to attract Clark back to the kennel (as it only absorbed one dog previously) and it certainly didn't expect MacReady to be in the kitchen grabbing a beer.

 

[propsculptor]

I finally got to see it tonight, I liked it overall.

I didn't have high expectations since I've been hearing so many harsh reviews from FX Artists and Original "Thing" movie Fans...

I think if the Studio had given Amalgamated Dynamics the time and Budget Rob Bottin originally had back in the 1980's we would have seen even more amazing FX work in this Film, but I really enjoyed it and was not Disappointed!

 

[Scareb]

I dunno, I mean to me, slicing his own throat just seems so unlikely. You Never hear of someone doing that. Wrists yes, throats no. It's totally possible he offed himself. Then Lars came up, cut his throat to make sure, and took off. It's just one of those head scratcher moments.

 

[Clutch]

Carpenter wanted a shocking image that summed up the horror the Norwegian's encountered. Simple as that.

 

[rodneyfaile]

I saw the new one this weekend. It was good, but not as good as JCs. For me, it was the acting. I just didn't get that the characters had a real sense of danger, fear, or dread. In JCs version, those guys were seriously stressed. There was more tension. They knew they were screwed.

 

[CB2001]

I saw the new one this weekend. It was good, but not as good as JCs. For me, it was the acting. I just didn't get that the characters had a real sense of danger, fear, or dread. In JCs version, those guys were seriously stressed. There was more tension. They knew they were screwed.

You can blame Universal or/and the "producers of Dawn of the Dead" for that. I read an interview with the writer who stated there was a lot more character scenes that were filmed, but ended up cut out of the final film. So, it wouldn't be surprised if there were other scenes that were taken out that dealt with more of the fear and dread portion of the story, and were replaced with the reshoots that were forced onto the production.