Crap i forgot i wanted to watch that on TCM to see all of his movie choices.
The Thing prequel
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Crap i forgot i wanted to watch that on TCM to see all of his movie choices.
ptgreek
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I saw this last week As a fan of the original and someone who works in practical FX, here is my take on the movie. The Director did try and capture a feel and look that would stay consistent to a story that takes place three days prior to Carpenter's Thing. The first 30 minutes are great ...but it starts to slide a little downhill from there. Of course where it really fails is the place we all expected it to ..the high reliance on CGI. Dont get me wrong ..what little practical is in the film is beautiful and ADI should be commended on their work ..but the need to show a full charging monster that is an obvious rendering, takes you out of the movie when you are most sucked in. There are a few moments towards the end that honestly made me chuckle more then cringe. That is the inherent problem with this prequel..it forgets to be a horror movie ..choosing at times to take the form of a film like "AVP" ..a sci-fi action film with effects that dont hold up to the original ..no matter how new and shiny they may be.
dbalschi
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The station and hallway probably look the same because in the original
they used the same set for both bases
CB2001
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Actually...
they used the same exterior for both the U.S. and Norwegian bases. After they filmed the destruction of the U.S. base, they used the remains as the Norwegian base (and convincingly enough, as there wasn't anything recognizable to identify it as the remains of the U.S. base). The interior actually was a separate set.
dbalschi
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Ahhh that's where I always got confused. Well, had my statement been true it would have been a good explanation.
CB2001
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It's no problem. You were partially right, primarily with the exterior of the camp. But then again, having a long hall in the interior way may be a common design in bases in the Antarctic. I was watching the movie Whiteout the other day, which is also set in the Antarctic, and there is a couple of bases featured in the film that both have a long hallway in both bases. It makes sense for their to be a long hallway that connects all the rooms together.
sanityattack
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Remember the X Files episode 'Ice' that was a homage to The Thing? Lots of long corridors in that episode!
CB2001
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The first was The Thing. Second was IT.. which they based Alien on. And that episode of Space1999-Dragons Domain. Crew is sent to Mars, everyone is killed but one. He's rescued and don't they believe him until IT gets on the ship.
Really bad acting. I couldn't stand IT...er ,it. Turned off the TV and didn't see the 3rd choice.
ghostryder
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Scareb
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Just got back from the movie. All I can say is that if you've seen JC's thing, you're not missing out on much. Throughout the film, I kept thinking I was watching JC's film. Blood tests, flamethrowers, confined members.
This film also relies hugely on CGI. I kept hearing this was practical effects heavy but whoever said that was a liar. None of the actual creatures whilst moving, were practical.
On that note, I did dig the creature designs.
John carpenters version is still the best.
This film also relies hugely on CGI. I kept hearing this was practical effects heavy but whoever said that was a liar. None of the actual creatures whilst moving, were practical.
On that note, I did dig the creature designs.
John carpenters version is still the best.
ghostryder
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ghostryder
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ConvergencePro
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So I just got back from a showing...
So to be honest I really liked the film but I gotta let it digest a little. . Its nothing compared to the original film. But it ties into the original fairly well. Lots of nostalgia. It for sure had its load of problems though
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Without going into too much detail here are my complaints
So the first thing I have a problem with is the amount of CG. Theirs a ****load of it. Some of it's really convincing while others are crap. CGI breath anyone?
Character development. There's jack **** for this. They started killing everyone off before we even get to know who the hell they are. For instance the guy(thing) in the helicopter who decided to take over the man they were bringing back to the real world. Who the hell was he? why was he there in the first place? Maybe the film was just moving so fast I just missed it.
The helicopter crash. So the helicopter crashes behind the mountain in back of the camp. We never go up to the crash site. Not to see if there were survivors Or hey maybe the THING survived and we need to kill it before it freezes again or comes back to camp.
The thing doesn't act like the thing. Well for most of the movie the thing is chasing everyone around camp. It really doesn't do a good job at hiding. and everyone who is a thing is easily guessed to be a thing. There's one part where the thing is chasing our heroine out of a store room and could give a rats ass about everyone else in camp. This just doesn't seem to be the same calculating Thing from the first film. To be fair though It wasn't going to be able to change back so I guess it kinda makes since but It could have broken out a window or something and taken off instead of doing what it did. Now one could argue that this was its first experience with humans so it learned to hide better after it failed so many times, but that may be stretching it.
There's no real paranoia factor. Best part of the first film (For me atleast) was it wasn't full of Jump scares. Instead it made you so paranoid you wondered if the person sitting next to you may be a Thing. This film is almost the exact opposite. It tries to make you jump all the time. Sometimes it works and sometimes its obvious and falls flat.
What the hell happened to our heroine? We are just left with her outside the alien spaceship and that's the last we see of her. Did she freeze to death? Did she try to get to the Russian base? We never find out.
What I liked.
The Film is chock full of nostalgia. It has all the things our characters find at the Norwegian camp in the first film. The Split head THING, the axe in the door. The frozen man with cut wrists and throat. It even has a clip of Jed (The wolf dog from the first film) spliced in where the helicopter is chasing him Even has the original creepy theme for the dog chase.
No reuse of the hot wire and blood. That would have just pissed me off.
Aside from not giving a damn about the people being killed I really liked how ******* dangerous they made the thing out to be. It literally wipes out half the team in like 10 minutes.
In the end I just recommend you see it for yourself and make your own assessments. I don't think it was a bad film like other reviews have said
Thats all i gotta say for now
Dana
So to be honest I really liked the film but I gotta let it digest a little. . Its nothing compared to the original film. But it ties into the original fairly well. Lots of nostalgia. It for sure had its load of problems though
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SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!
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Without going into too much detail here are my complaints
So the first thing I have a problem with is the amount of CG. Theirs a ****load of it. Some of it's really convincing while others are crap. CGI breath anyone?
Character development. There's jack **** for this. They started killing everyone off before we even get to know who the hell they are. For instance the guy(thing) in the helicopter who decided to take over the man they were bringing back to the real world. Who the hell was he? why was he there in the first place? Maybe the film was just moving so fast I just missed it.
The helicopter crash. So the helicopter crashes behind the mountain in back of the camp. We never go up to the crash site. Not to see if there were survivors Or hey maybe the THING survived and we need to kill it before it freezes again or comes back to camp.
The thing doesn't act like the thing. Well for most of the movie the thing is chasing everyone around camp. It really doesn't do a good job at hiding. and everyone who is a thing is easily guessed to be a thing. There's one part where the thing is chasing our heroine out of a store room and could give a rats ass about everyone else in camp. This just doesn't seem to be the same calculating Thing from the first film. To be fair though It wasn't going to be able to change back so I guess it kinda makes since but It could have broken out a window or something and taken off instead of doing what it did. Now one could argue that this was its first experience with humans so it learned to hide better after it failed so many times, but that may be stretching it.
There's no real paranoia factor. Best part of the first film (For me atleast) was it wasn't full of Jump scares. Instead it made you so paranoid you wondered if the person sitting next to you may be a Thing. This film is almost the exact opposite. It tries to make you jump all the time. Sometimes it works and sometimes its obvious and falls flat.
What the hell happened to our heroine? We are just left with her outside the alien spaceship and that's the last we see of her. Did she freeze to death? Did she try to get to the Russian base? We never find out.
What I liked.
The Film is chock full of nostalgia. It has all the things our characters find at the Norwegian camp in the first film. The Split head THING, the axe in the door. The frozen man with cut wrists and throat. It even has a clip of Jed (The wolf dog from the first film) spliced in where the helicopter is chasing him Even has the original creepy theme for the dog chase.
No reuse of the hot wire and blood. That would have just pissed me off.
Aside from not giving a damn about the people being killed I really liked how ******* dangerous they made the thing out to be. It literally wipes out half the team in like 10 minutes.
In the end I just recommend you see it for yourself and make your own assessments. I don't think it was a bad film like other reviews have said
Thats all i gotta say for now
Dana
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