'The Simpsons' in danger of being cancelled

As opposed to the mucky mucks who write their paychecks, who do nothing but take meetings all day?

The franchise makes X dollars. The people who make it possible deserve Y share.

Let's say I make a widget that, for whatever reason, millions of people like. There are other widgets, but the ones that sell are mine, and no one else can make a Treadwell Widget. A "Mister Suit" markets them for me and the venture makes a profit of eleventy kazillion dollars. And sure, let's say I can make them very easily. So what? I'd better be getting a sizable portion of that eleventy kazillion. "But all you do is XYZ and your widget's done! It's rather excessive to pay you kazillions of dollars for something that requires so little effort." So you want to cap me at a flat rate that amounts to a minor percentage, and let Mister Suit continue to increase his take? I don't think so.

This is why I also take umbrage to complaints about the so-called "greed" of professional athletes. The professional sports franchises make BANK. The people who make it possible deserve their share.

Yes, but if popularity has dropped, ratings have dropped and merchandising is not making a lot anymore, it stands to reason that the show is not going to make as much money. So if the product makes less money, then it stands to reason that the people making the product should make less money.
 
The people who do the grunt work behind the scenes
I agree they deserve their share, too. But that wasn't the issue being discussed. Fox isn't proposing dropping VA salaries in order to pay the rest of the staff better.
 
I think it's funny how many people here think Family Guy is so funny. I stopped watching a year or so ago because it just got horrible. The episode would stop half way through and there would be some random fight with a chicken or singing number that had nothing to do with the store and took like 10 minutes. So, essentially the episode was only 15 minutes long with a random 10 BS segment in the middle. It got really old really quick.
 
Yeah, Family Guy has gone down hill in recent years. However, I feel American Dad is going pretty strong. I'm actually surprised that Family Guy is the more popular of the two.
 
I think it's funny how many people here think Family Guy is so funny. I stopped watching a year or so ago because it just got horrible. The episode would stop half way through and there would be some random fight with a chicken or singing number that had nothing to do with the store and took like 10 minutes. So, essentially the episode was only 15 minutes long with a random 10 BS segment in the middle. It got really old really quick.

And yet people think it's SOOO brilliant that Seth got two more shows, and probably one more to fill 'The Simpsons' timeslot if it ends. Inconceivable.

The sad truth is that most of the "grunt work" labor could be completely sacked and replaced with minimum-wage new people and the show wouldn't be affected much. If one of the top six voice actors left it would be crippling to the show, so they can command significantly more money. The show is still profitable or it wouldn't still be on the air. This is FOX we're talking about, they don't give shows a chance if they don't have ratings.
 
Yeah, Family Guy has gone down hill in recent years. However, I feel American Dad is going pretty strong. I'm actually surprised that Family Guy is the more popular of the two.

I agree. Family Guy is kind of hit or miss. I like the song and dance numbers in the stewie/brian episodes since they're a tribute to the Road movie franchise of the 40s. The giant chicken got kind of old once they decided to make peace. It's a problem all shows reach when they hit a certain number. Mash went downhill, Simpsons is, Cosby did. Star Trek shows sure did. I'm sure there are ways to get more/better stories but they're not finding them. Futurama's really hitting the crapper since it came back on.
I don't think the production of these shows can get any cheaper since they're already done in South Korea and the guys on this end aren't making much so it's the creators, managers, and all the people making 100,000 a year doing squat who get the cash.
 
Some of my best childhood memories were watching the Simpsons Halloween specials on a super old VHS tape.

Echoing what the majority has said, everything after season 10 started to really blow. Haven't watched it since.
 
I stopped watching about when Maude Flanders died. [10 years ago] Maybe the two were connected. Maybe I'm just bored with it. Every TV show is basically a repeat of itself every week. Sooner or later you 'get it'.

I missed quite a few Family Guys this year as well, which I never did before.

The Simpsons should end with Flanders finally snapping and killing Homer.
 
It's gotten a lot better in the last several seasons.

Fox wants to cut the voice talent salaries by 45%. I don't care who you are, no one's rolling over for that.

Reportedly, the main cast currently make $400,000 each per episode. PER EPISODE. :eek

If that is true, it costs Fox 2.4 million PER EPISODE just to pay the 6 main voice talents.

Basically, the cast is/now has renegoted for royalties on the back end, for a cut in salary.

TWO POINTS:

1) Good for Hank Azaria et al, if they can get $400,000 per episode! Awesome!

2) Stop @$#%@#% complaining when you make MILLIONS of dollars per year, being a cartoon voice! :darnkids My brother is an audio engineer and has worked with voice talent before. Being a voice actor can be difficult (showing up to work in your blue jeans and flip flops, repeating the same thing over and over into a studio mic, going back months later for the ADR, being pampered as "the talent", having to slave away in an air conditioned sound room, etc. etc. etc.... :rolleyes)

So, unless you are Frank Welker, then STOP WHINING, thank the Good Lord above that you make MILLIONS per years doing this, and quit complaining.
 
The real issue ids the money. The BIG issue is that just about all the shows in current production are seeing budget cutbacks. Thus, they want to do the same to the Simpsons, however, they had the same issue a few years back. The studio mentality is that everyone else is taking cutbacks, so the Simpsons cast must as well.
Given the last hardball negotiations, it shard to say what will happen this time as most stations are truly cutting back and the cast has shown they are willing to push hard not to compromise easily. So this truly may be the end due to the economy tanking many budgets all around. After what happened last time, I jhjust don't see the cast compromising easily and the studios being a bit more under pressure to go ahead and cancel it this time.
 
Renewed!

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As Montgomery Burns would say, "excellent."
Fans of "The Simpsons" can rejoice that a deal has been reached between the actors who provide voices for the animated hit show and 20th Century Fox Television, the studio that produces the show for its sister Fox network.
The new agreement ends several days of tension between the two sides and ensures that "The Simpsons" will run for at least 25 seasons. The studio said it needed to cut the salaries of the actors to make keeping production going economically viable while the actors countered that the studio, network and parent company News Corp. were being greedy.
While terms of the two-year contract were not disclosed, 20th Century Fox Television had been looking to cut the salaries of the actors by as much as 45%. The primary cast members currently make $440,000 per episode and the offer to keep doing the show was for about $250,000, according to people close to the situation not authorized to talk publicly about the matter.
The cast -- which includes Dan Castellaneta (Homer), Julie Kavner (Marge), Nancy Cartwright (Bart), Yeardley Smith (Lisa), Hank Azaria (Moe the bartender, Chief Wiggum and Apu) and Harry Shearer (Mr. Burns and Ned Flanders) -- had indicated it would be willing to accept a big pay cut in return for a piece of the money the company gets from reruns and other ancillary revenue streams. In a statement released Friday prior to the new deal being agreed upon, Shearer said the cast's salaries "pale in comparison to what the show's profit participants have been taking home." The offer to take smaller salaries in return for a piece of what is known as the back-end was resisted by the studio.
"The Simpsons" has been a staple of Fox's prime-time line up for more than two decades, and sales of reruns and DVDs as well as numerous licensing deals have made the program one of the most profitable in television history. News Corp. has pocketed more than $1 billion in profit from the show, according to analysts and company insiders.
However, the Fox network, which pays more than $5 million for each episode of "The Simpsons," is losing money on the new episodes it airs, said two people with knowledge of the situation. Ratings for "The Simpsons" have fallen in the last few years while the cost to make the show has increased. "
 
The way I look at it, The Simpsons may not be as good as it used to be, but it's still fun to watch and SO much better than the other crap they put on TV. Think about it, would you rather watch the Simpsons of something like Jersey Shore? Or any of that other reality garbage.
 
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