"The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Space Adventure on Fox

robn1 said:
"Twice in a Lifetime" was incredible.
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Agreed!

This episode had all of the earmarks of a "let's say goodbye to cast member" storyline by leaving Gordon with his new family. That's what ANY episode of Star Trek would have done. Hell, that's what any sci-fi show that involved a similar time travel story would have done. But in typical Orville fashion, it took a pretty tried and true trope and turned it on its head. AND did it with a one-two punch -- Not only was it heartbreaking for Mercer to say "hey, we have a time machine, we'll just go get you when you wanted to come home," but then the show has Gordon agree that Mercer made the right call later on.

I think this is my favorite episode so far. The writing was fantastic, and the acting was even better, especially from Scott Grimes. The second Mercer and Grayson showed up, you could totally see it on Gordon's face -- he didn't want them to be there.
 
Zuiun said:
Agreed!

This episode had all of the earmarks of a "let's say goodbye to cast member" storyline by leaving Gordon with his new family. That's what ANY episode of Star Trek would have done. Hell, that's what any sci-fi show that involved a similar time travel story would have done. But in typical Orville fashion, it took a pretty tried and true trope and turned it on its head. AND did it with a one-two punch -- Not only was it heartbreaking for Mercer to say "hey, we have a time machine, we'll just go get you when you wanted to come home," but then the show has Gordon agree that Mercer made the right call later on.

I think this is my favorite episode so far. The writing was fantastic, and the acting was even better, especially from Scott Grimes. The second Mercer and Grayson showed up, you could totally see it on Gordon's face -- he didn't want them to be there.
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You could wonder why they didn't just get the fuel stuff they needed, then go back the extra 10 years to get Gordon to begin with. But then there wouldn't be a story.
 
Great episode!
Once again on pacing/length: when you don't have a time limit, you lose the discipline to kill your darlings. After the closeup of the family portrait, the next shot should have been them arriving back home in their time. The particulars of how they did it are unimportant.
 
Treadwell said:
Great episode!
Once again on pacing/length: when you don't have a time limit, you lose the discipline to kill your darlings. After the closeup of the family portrait, the next shot should have been them arriving back home in their time. The particulars of how they did it are unimportant.
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To a point, I'd have to disagree...

I feel like it was important for them to show the device being destroyed. Not only did it give us a pretty cool moment of them showing relatively correct physics (blue and red light shifting at ultra high velocities), which I agree wasn't a necessary sequence (at the very least, it was drawn out longer than it needed to be), BUT it effectively removed the time travel device from being a potential story crutch / plot hole in future episodes. It would have been cheap to have them just relegate the device no longer being usable to exposition.
 
That was an ok episode, I liked the time travel aspect but Charly is grating a bit now.
The opening singing sequence was a bit cheesy but thankfully brief.
 
Yeah it wasn't my favorite, but that was one hell of a moral dillema! I feel bad for Gordon though! I would have liked to have heard what Gordon thought about his alternate self because they acted like they were going to fill him in on what happened.
 
Sluis Van Shipyards said:
Yeah it wasn't my favorite, but that was one hell of a moral dillema! I feel bad for Gordon though! I would have liked to have heard what Gordon thought about his alternate self because they acted like they were going to fill him in on what happened.
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They did end up filling him in, we never got to see Ed and Kelly actually talk to him about it but we do get the tail end of that talk.
Gordon ends up saying that he couldn't believe that his older self would be that selfish. He thought that they were right in doing what they did and couldn't imagine how difficult a decision it must have been for them to have made. They then proceed to have a drink and talk about trying to finish 3 bottles because they're older now and they used to be able to polish off 2 bottles when they were younger.(/spoiler]
 
That was a really cool episode, and totally unexpected on how it finished.
I’d like to know if on the ‘return’ voyage, could/did the Orville come back in time to prevent the destruction of the scientific station and various escort ships/personnel , or was that never an option ?
How was the timing not a factor for that future/present event, but going back 10yrs earlier again to ‘save/retrieve Gordon’ more important (after they had the means to do so) ?
 
That was a great episode! When I realized it was going to be about time travel I didn't have high hopes as time travel has been done to death, but I was pleasantly surprised. Very well done!
 
gedmac66 said:
I’d like to know if on the ‘return’ voyage, could/did the Orville come back in time to prevent the destruction of the scientific station and various escort ships/personnel , or was that never an option ?
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As desirable or tempting as that would have been, it’s probably a violation of their version of the temporal prime directive. Who knows how those changes would have affected the future (or is it the present) they were returning to. They seem to strictly adhere to time travel rules.
 
gedmac66 said:
That was a really cool episode, and totally unexpected on how it finished.
I’d like to know if on the ‘return’ voyage, could/did the Orville come back in time to prevent the destruction of the scientific station and various escort ships/personnel , or was that never an option ?
How was the timing not a factor for that future/present event, but going back 10yrs earlier again to ‘save/retrieve Gordon’ more important (after they had the means to do so) ?
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That station didn't have any main cast on it, so screw them! :lol:
 
I have a feeling that we're not done with the story just yet, whether they deal with it during this season or not, I don't know. Gordon's distress call came after he'd been there for 6 months. When the Orville goes back to retrieve him, they get him just one month after he'd been there, so he'd have not been able to send the distress call. Paradox created. Plus, there's still a sandwich to show up in a month.
 
It was a great episode.
But for my personal taste, when they zoom on the family picture, just should have faded to black and end credits.
So you never know if they told him, or how he reacted when they told him, keeps a bit more suspense for maybe future episodes.

I do miss the humor from other seasons, but the season is still great :)
 
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