The LV ( Luke and Vader ) Shared Stunt Lightsaber
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IronDestinyProps
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So, you're thinking it's a thin lipped Folmer then? Or a modified Graflex bottom like what you demonstrated?
It is an interesting theory, and I was just wondering what to use for the brass plate under the clip for my build. I have plenty of 2 cells lying around so I might sacrifice one for my build as well.
However, the disc is clearly not such a "perfect circle" like yours but it is quite roughly shaped. I think it could happen if they used a file (or a dremel, etc.) to roughly file off the rim/lip section by section (as much as the file width allows) and filed some sections too much. What is visible from the rim under the plate does not look unevenly filed though, but they could have cleaned it up a bit before assembling.
But how is the plate attached back to the flash? Could be the rivets go all the way through the clip, brass plate and into the supposed core inside the flash (but should have really long heads for that)? Or the rivets just hold the clip to the plate and the plate is maybe glued to the core?
And one last observation (or two). What's visible from the rim looks to be still chromed (although, could be painted over like the disc itself). The brass plate at least at one section appears to be over the rim on both sides. If it was the disc from the flash - the rim should have been brass, and the plate can't be with a larger diameter than the inside of the rim (unless the tube was slightly damaged and deformed into oval rather than a circle, but it does not look like it).
However, the disc is clearly not such a "perfect circle" like yours but it is quite roughly shaped. I think it could happen if they used a file (or a dremel, etc.) to roughly file off the rim/lip section by section (as much as the file width allows) and filed some sections too much. What is visible from the rim under the plate does not look unevenly filed though, but they could have cleaned it up a bit before assembling.
But how is the plate attached back to the flash? Could be the rivets go all the way through the clip, brass plate and into the supposed core inside the flash (but should have really long heads for that)? Or the rivets just hold the clip to the plate and the plate is maybe glued to the core?
And one last observation (or two). What's visible from the rim looks to be still chromed (although, could be painted over like the disc itself). The brass plate at least at one section appears to be over the rim on both sides. If it was the disc from the flash - the rim should have been brass, and the plate can't be with a larger diameter than the inside of the rim (unless the tube was slightly damaged and deformed into oval rather than a circle, but it does not look like it).
Yes - man this is good. I agree the hand cut plate is wider than the rim in a couple spots so it can’t be the original disc.
Also the rim isn’t evenly cut, I agree. The original milled lip is still the closest aspect of a graflex tube to these shots. If the tube was cut… the thickness of the tube wall would show right? If the Folmer lip was still there we’d see that instead. This thickness is smaller than the t track above it, which is wild to me.
I did darken this photo, for anyone following this. The rim is pretty light in color, I swung the contrast to bring out the rim from the surrounding material.
I can’t tell what’s under the hand cut plate. I was thinking maybe I should post up really good images of the wampa cave next to this shot to compare the damage.
The best I can tell… for some reason they needed the endcap to come out and possibly they destroyed the nice holes and had to patch it to reinstall the kobold?
Okay, here is what I wanted to inspect. I haven't done so, thought I would upload them first so we all can look at similar times.
and today... (ish)
this is also good material for checking out the D ring block. The kobold I am banking on being the same. V312 and I found all these pieces of damage and tarnish that match: left of the rivets, bottom edge.... 2 or 3 dings on the sides... for example
and today... (ish)
this is also good material for checking out the D ring block. The kobold I am banking on being the same. V312 and I found all these pieces of damage and tarnish that match: left of the rivets, bottom edge.... 2 or 3 dings on the sides... for example
To be honest, I think the shrunken kobold is an optical illusion because of the missing rolled lip.
I measured a folmer here at around 38mm in diameter and a real kobold here at 30mm long. I shrunk that MoM image down until the tube was 38mm and the kobold was dead on 30.
I measured a folmer here at around 38mm in diameter and a real kobold here at 30mm long. I shrunk that MoM image down until the tube was 38mm and the kobold was dead on 30.
marker2037
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Without the lip, it definitely makes it seem like the Kobold is shorter. Very interesting.
Late to the party…. I was wondering if what is holding the ears in is a “roll pin” these can be found in steel, and ironically coated in a non corrosive plating like what you see on brake calipers, cups, bolts and slide pins. Which is the same “dark gold” color
When hammered in, that gap sure be closed.. I don’t see a gap on the photos..
Curious if it’s pinched so tight we can’t see it
When hammered in, that gap sure be closed.. I don’t see a gap on the photos..
Curious if it’s pinched so tight we can’t see it
Thank you! Yes, the skywalker ranch belt hanger still has its endcap, and we can really see the difference between that and the missing lip on the bladed one!
Could be! Wouldn’t we see a shadow going down into the top all the way instead of that weird cone shaped shadow?
Some times in my automotive experience when hammering these in, the pinch so hard, and then the elements get in there, i sometimes I don’t realize it’s a roll pin until the other side starts coming out and I see the seam
I don’t think this is the case on the ranch saber.. I don’t see a seam.. but it’s a possibility I guess
Actually, what I'm seeing that is interesting is that the lip looks ground down a bit on the ranch saber in a similar way to which your 2-cell looked when you started machining off the lip
Oh my gosh, great eye! Yes… it looks like when I just started to grind the lip. What the heck were they doing?
Poikilotherm
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The lip of the graflex 5 series was basically the same as the bottom cover, so the bottom of the dv6 must have been broken, and I also think they turned the end cover upside down.
I've taken some close-ups of the bottom of Graflex3-5 and it's clear that the bottom of the dv6 is damaged...
I've taken some close-ups of the bottom of Graflex3-5 and it's clear that the bottom of the dv6 is damaged...
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