The Iron Patriot Costume - build progress

[IronPatriot]

@ Sleeping Lionheart;

- It's unique. I havent seen anyone do it, so it'll set me & my suit apart from the others....

Plus the "idea" of Patriot is FREEDOM (atleast, that's what I think), and I like that idea.

 

[IronPatriot]

I think this design I just made, might work:

 

[halopepakura]

I think this design I just made, might work:

what software are u using?

edit:nevermind i looked in the older post and found it

 

[Starx]

Okay. So ive got a couple of things to say. lol
Firstly, i think you have a good build going here. Considering the flight manipulation and stabilizations are questionable as well as the power source, i believe the rest of the build is quite feasible and i am definitely looking forward to more progress from you. Also, to hopefully help with some of the build, i suggest this.
The iron man suit in the movie has been built to fit different people; the main actor, and the stunt men, each obviously havign different proportions according to those people. But as far as the under carriage of the actual suit, i recommend you build it so that the under carriage fits you closely as possible while not restricting movement/airflow or what have you. In order to answer the question as to what you should do as far as fuel lines etc, consider this. In the pictures you posted ( i assume you got them from my post over at section sixteen ) of the underarmor, the person wearing the cage is inside the cage where the cage rests on the outside with quite a snug fit. Then the rest of the armor is placed ontop to shield the inside workings, so i believe it would be the best idea to make the actual cage as snug but comfortable as possible, and then to attach the hoses and everything else (electronics, controls, power sources, etc, ) ontop of the cage and then the plating. For example, here is a picture that i hope helps with your leg dilemma. I believe you should make the piece open at the bottom of the ankle just like in the movie. It seems to work for the actual props, and seems sensible enough for the tubing and wiring as far as space is concerned. For the extras, you can use this (picture below) note, all the pieces needed for the control of the engine is in the rear of the leg, but dont forget there are also pieces used all around the leg if you look at the picture of tony in his garage where he works on the boots. Not everything is covered in the back of the leg. hope this picture helps and i hope i didnt confuse you. Let me know if you need any other pics of the underarmor. I have the whole file. Cheers!

 

[drifter]

I just wanted to point out that I believe that is a picture of a fan-made recreation of the Iron Man boots, not the originals themselves.

-Nick

why yes it is a fan-made recreation, I simply used it as a reference to show iron patriot a different design... and maybe to see how strong this cage is, and if it were made of steel. And that if your going to do something you might as well do it right... so when they see it , it make everyone say what ever comes to mind..........

Holy hole in a donut Batman! Sorry that just came to mind.... :lol

 

[Amish Trooper]

Is the cage necessary?

 

[drifter]

Is the cage necessary?

yes it is... it will hold all the lines in place and be able to put your leg in with out getting caught up in them. Plus like a race car, you need a cage for safety and strength.....

 

[IronPatriot]

The cage isnt necessary, but for the REALISM of re-creating the suit, and running the wires, and making the suit fit perfect, etc...etc...etc...etc...etc..... I'd say yeah.

I'm pretty sure I'll need the cage.

 

[keikeo]

wow im really glad to see people finally helping out rather than arguing about this all. i think this is going to be an awesome build for the suit and like others have said the flight may be tricky but hey. ideas and inventions have to start somewhere and with someone having the guts to do it. this aint the first time people thought someone was crazy for doing sometihng. good ideas and cant wait to see it finished

 

[indigojack]

I think you can avoid a lot of design issues if you first create your suit in a 3d or (preferably) CAD program. that way you'll know how much room you have in the suit for yourself and any electronics.
Also, I would recommend avoiding flight for the first one, considering the weight of steel. Maybe make a second one out of carbon fiber that so it would be much lighter and require less fuel for flight.
I know this question has been asked before but how are you going to control your actuators for the joints? Are you going to use some kind of force feedback system? It would be cool if you could post any wiring diagrams you have done. If you're worried about people stealing your idea, you could always copyright it (i.e. mailing a copy to yourself) before posting it.

 

[IronPatriot]

i wont know how much room i have in the suit no matter what. I dont have a huge $ Million machine that can scan my
body and it's dimensions into a 3d form. How am I to know how big my body is, in comparison to a 3D ironman model?

... I mean, unless you got a $20 solution? A very cheap laser scanner out there, with a 3' scanning diameter?
(the ability to scane objects 6' tall, and 3' around)

 

[indigojack]

i wont know how much room i have in the suit no matter what. I dont have a huge $ Million machine that can scan my
body and it's dimensions into a 3d form. How am I to know how big my body is, in comparison to a 3D ironman model?

... I mean, unless you got a $20 solution? A very cheap laser scanner out there, with a 3' scanning diameter?
(the ability to scane objects 6' tall, and 3' around)

I bought a tape measure for $2 at walmart last week. And I'm sure google sketchup is free. So just measure yourself and build a ironman suit to scale in sketchup. Then you'll know how much room you have and what capabilities you can put in the armor

 

[Jessica]

or you could use string that doesn't stretch, and measure that with a ruler. that's what macguyver would do!

 

[IronPatriot]

... Yeah, I think I'll just do it this way:

Make the cage out of paper, BASED on the design of the armor. (then there'll be no more surprises)

* UPDATE *

I remade the shin, I'm gonna use the Mark III's.

- And technically speaking, this is MY Mark II's shin, since it's the 2nd one I made.

 

[indigojack]

so are you going to make the cage in paper, find out how much room you have for wiring, then build the shell around that? that seems like a pretty good way to go.

 

[keikeo]

Here is a link to make a body scaner if you would really want to go with that route:

3-D Laser Scanner

i would say just make a pep version first and find what size is best

 

[Dark asylum]

I can't help but think this is only a solid idea if you have a good amount time and money to invest in but that's only part of the problem were trial and error will serve for the rest of the problem solving you will be facing, but one thing I must point out is using pep files might be a bad idea if you want accurate scaling as the files work like a skin were as the actual parts are housed over multiple levels of wires and micro tech and engineering frames that to be safe you'd most likely have to scratch build to make it all fit and parts would actually be larger then seen in the movie.

Like they stated in the studio in order to get the right look the costumes were made as slim fitting as possible yet the legs needed to be longer then normal thus the actors were standing on crates while in the Hero suits so imagine that's what the boot would actually work more like a platform shoe just to be accurate with ports and support for the weight alone(Metal isn't light).


Other then that I guess I'll wish you luck if you really think you can pull it off go for it I'll be rooting regardless.

 

[mez7]

i wont know how much room i have in the suit no matter what. I dont have a huge $ Million machine that can scan my
body and it's dimensions into a 3d form. How am I to know how big my body is, in comparison to a 3D ironman model?

... I mean, unless you got a $20 solution? A very cheap laser scanner out there, with a 3' scanning diameter?
(the ability to scane objects 6' tall, and 3' around)

MyoTape Body Tape Measure by Accufitness: Health-Apex.com

:rolleyes

 

[AaronLee]

I can't help but think this is only a solid idea if you have a good amount time and money to invest in but that's only part of the problem were trial and error will serve for the rest of the problem solving you will be facing, but one thing I must point out is using pep files might be a bad idea if you want accurate scaling as the files work like a skin were as the actual parts are housed over multiple levels of wires and micro tech and engineering frames that to be safe you'd most likely have to scratch build to make it all fit and parts would actually be larger then seen in the movie.

Like they stated in the studio in order to get the right look the costumes were made as slim fitting as possible yet the legs needed to be longer then normal thus the actors were standing on crates while in the Hero suits so imagine that's what the boot would actually work more like a platform shoe just to be accurate with ports and support for the weight alone(Metal isn't light).


Other then that I guess I'll wish you luck if you really think you can pull it off go for it I'll be rooting regardless.

This basically sums up what a few members have been talking about. You can't make a "real" Ironman suit with full electronics/flight while basing it on the scale and size of a "fake" suit, in this case the suit from the movie.

 

[indigojack]

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:rolleyes

Yeah, that's what I meant by measuring tape. haha I guess I should have specified.