The DEFINITIVE VADER Q&A session - time to ARCHIVE?

[Oohyeah KL]

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Hi. Yes, there was a hero version of the ROTJ saber to my knowledge. ILM had a velvet-lined wood box with Luke and Vader sabers in there. All others were thrown in a box. I don't know much about the ROTJ saber. I actually hate the look of it. But I do recall a circuit board type thing on it. I might have a picture somewhere of me holding it which I will look at.

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Whoaa... that's great information!!
I always suspected that the hero would have a circuit board!
Do you remember whether there was a brass rod sticking out from the emitter? (I suspect not).

A picture would be EXCELLENT!!

Also, you mention the ANH saber, but our debate was focussed on the ESB version - was it an MPP also, and ONLY an MPP? (ie., no King Sols were used)?

Thanks lots!!

 

[darthjones]

Upon further inspection of a bad photograph, it actually appears there are no circuit board stripes on the hero ROTJ Vader saber clamp. It appears to be just a boxy, black shape there.

Also, Wookie is going to post my armor pics. later this week.

Also, the emitter rod appears to be silver in color.

 

[Oohyeah KL]

THanks for the further info, DJ. hmm... seems like you were probably holding the MOM version, coudl it be?
(something like this?
http://www.subdimension.com/community/underground/hammerhead/vader_ROTJ_saber_tut/refpics.html)

Anyway, Wookiee, looking forward to the pics!

EDIT: Wookiee???

 

[Flix4Me]

My apologies to darthjones and to you all for the delay.

Here they are --

 

[darthjones]

Hi! Thanks. They look good to me. I wonder if anyone has any way of photographing thier GT from similar angles to post along side. Also, it looks similar to the C. Oakley armor I think. Hmmmm. Go to http://www.geocities.com/troopermaker/VaderArmour.htm for comparisons.

 

[Flix4Me]

Yes, they are similar.

A couple of things about the armor in the pics I posted above for darthjones:

It is easy to see the difference in the width between the GT and this sample.

In addition to the armor in these pics being broader than the GT at the front outside lower corners, these same corners do indeed taper inward toward the wearer.

 

[icemanfredtm]

wow that does look alot like the armor in the link posted above


that center ridge seems very defined.

it would be interetsing to see the other armor in the link in same angles as the rest of those pics posted above.

 

[icemanfredtm]

Just looking through my old notes. the armor in that ink is 14.17" across ant the bottom of the chest armor.

what is the width of the real thing?

 

[Fatherless One]

C'mon we're doing so well here!!!

Bump

 

[Oohyeah KL]

WHOAAA!!!!!!
Super pics!!! Thanks so much, DJ! (and Wookiee for hosting them).

First thing I noticed was that it's not very symmetrical, is it?! Look esp. at the top-down shot - that neck hole seems totally warped or something!

Also, this lays to rest the fact that the back goes down all the way to line up with the bells, ie., as long as the front.

And the taper on the chest edges can clearly be seen.

Finally, the neck hole is actually quite large! Almost as large as the GTs. (I think you made that point before, DJ, and this confirms it.) With that size hole, the helmet SHOULD go into it instead of having to sit on top of the armor.

So what's the story behind this armor again, DJ? Was this screen used, or just one of the many made for the movie?
(And presumably this was for ESB?

 

[Fatherless One]

All good questions KL, looking forward to the answers.

Bump.

 

[darthjones]

I don't know if this was screen used armor or not. No idea. It is either from the movie or cast up by this dude from one of the ILM molds. They had about three different molds there that I saw and all of them were identical except for clean up. Y'know, sand one, take out waves, remold it, then do it again a few years later - that kind of thing but without any changes. It is definately assymetrical but so is the helmet, right? Someone in archives up there knows that he has it and confirms that it is identical to the screen used ones they have in storage.

Does anyone have GT they can photo from the same angles and post?

 

[icemanfredtm]

gt armor has been modified.


I think it looks closer to the armor from down under. Thats the armor you should take pics of from the same angles.

 

[Fatherless One]

I e-mailed CO for some info on the other Vader armor a few days ago, nut so far no reply, has anybody else heard from him?

Alan.

 

[Durasteel Corporation]

Hey you guys...

I keep noticing this thread bumping but dont see any new posts or additions...is there any new info?

thanks
D

 

[Oohyeah KL]

???

DJ just posted new info like 3 hours before your post. Or did you not consider that information?

Anyway, DJ, I would take and post pics of my GT armor in those angles, but I just moved and my place is still in a mess (not even sure where my camera is).
But will try to do so soon.

I agree this ILM one does look alot like the CO one, but I don't think they are from the same mold. Look:

(not sure if this pic will load since it's Geocities, but if not, here is the direct link:
http://www.geocities.com/cc_rockets/oakstyle.jpg )

eg., there's no taper on the bottom edges of the CO, and there are obvious differences in the left and right edge strips.

Alan, would love to hear more if you hear from CO. Maybe I could just get the bells...

BTW, anyone haave any idea why CO painted the bells silver as the main color??

 

[icemanfredtm]

I am waiting on a set of CO Bells. haven't heard from him in a while.


oohyeah: yes, it doesn't look like CO version tapers in. need another angle to be certain.
as mentioned earlier its only 14" across the botton of the chest piece (to small?). but I thought the rest looked closer than the g/t.

which "strips" are you reffering to?

 

[Oohyeah KL]

The CO is only 14" across?? that'd make it even narrower than the GT!
Strange, it looks to be as large as the ILM one, which is meant to be 17" (see earlier in this thread). The proportions certainly look pretty close. Unless the CO is like a slightly "mini-fied" ILM?

By the "strips" I'm just referring to the outer edge of the armor, ie., the silver 2"+ column on the sides of the armor.



btw, regarding the silver bells, I just noticed this picture from earlier on in this thread:

That's silver too!
What's up with this silver-bell version???

In fact, the whole paint scheme on this one looks weird! Anyone know where this pic came from?

 

[vaderguy]

Hello everybody,

I have been searching through all of my many CD's of Star Wars pictures that I have collected over the years and I have finally found these.

CKing sent them to me over a year ago. - I hope that you don't mind me posting them Chris. Just LMK if it is a problem and I'll take them down.

The armor shown here is the 20th Century armor that was sold to the same guy who purchased the helmet. There are also comparison shots of the GT/FX armor in roughly the same angles. The 20th C. armor was shaved down similarly to the GT armor but you can see that the length in the back is in fact longer then the length of the GT version. I hope that these help get us near to settling this debate.

JB

 

[icemanfredtm]

how old is that g/t chest armor?

is there a new version out there? cause in that pic it looks wider.