The Book of Boba Fett

SPOILER WARNING!! The Jedi who saved gogurt was leaked!!

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Still don’t see how the ST will be erased.. just because people THINK Ben solo was the first student.. like joker explained it’s not really identified that Ben solo was the first one

I seriously was waiting for a little Ben to come out of the woods and meet gogurt..
 
I just jumped into the series for the Mando/Grogu/Luke eps as soon as I heard, probably not alone there, full disclosure I wasn't really interested in space mobsters even if it's Star Wars and was not a fan of bringing Fett back from the dead to begin with. I like seeing real Luke greatly, and when I can't and they force Jake Skywalker on me or some other way that tries to force me to accept the prequels as canon I'll have to exit. So far I can maintain that for myself. Maybe it's inevitable at some point I guess but I'm prepared at least to walk away. I'm surprised they did this to the series though, I don't think it's fair to the actor and it IS called "The Book of Boba Fett". These two eps so far should have been Mando crossovers or something like comic books do. Anyways, my wife called Luke a "D***" for making Grogu choose! LOL And I'm all for choose both, break the mold Grogu!!! THIS is the way......




Jedilorian!!!!!
 
Still don’t see how the ST will be erased..

I seriously was waiting for a little Ben to come out of the woods and meet gogurt..
At which time Grogu grabs the saber, cuts Ben down, looks back at Luke, squints, and says, "Saw the darkness in him I did."
 
Remember when everyone was raging on social media over TLJ and started that whole #notmyluke thing? Where’s the #notmyboba movement?! The world needs to know!
There are a nonzero number of posts and a couple pages in this very thread. Largely spurred by me. I had some memory lapses about Special Edition crap, which doesn't shock me, but apart from that I maintain all the way to now that the "Boba" who got taken out like a punk in ROTJ was an imposter.

Anyone else notice they updated the clone trooper armor, so now we have the first real new version of clones in 20 years. I wonder if they are being used in another show.
What I don't get is why it's so... bad. Kev's been making and perfecting his OSCS armor for over a decade. It's dead-on to the original CGI assets in episodes II and III. There are physical helmets out there from both licensed and nonlicensed vendors. There are plenty of options for accurate Phase II clone trooper armor, helmets, and blasters out there. Why go to the effort and expense of making new inaccurate gear?

I personally didn’t mind Cad Bane’s look. It was appropriately weird and creepy. He’s obviously not gonna look the same as he did in a stylized cartoon.

If I had to nitpick I think for me the issue had more to do with the fact he really didn’t look much like the Duros we’ve already seen in live action. Also his eyes almost looked like the were glowing, which I don’t think was a thing before?

On a tangent but I always thought George meant for Neimoidians to be what the EU had called Duros. They looked better than the old ANH masks but I always thought the intent had been that they were the same species as the pair we saw in the cantina.
This summed up my take. As the videos up online already from people who have fixed it, I feel his skin should have been a bit more lifelike (darker substrate under transparent outer layers, like real skin), his mouth needed to be lower to match the members of his species we've already seen (which also matches his animated appearance), his teeth were Too Much™, his eyes should've not glowed, and should've had the horizontal pupils.

The Neimoidians were created as a related but distinct species. I'll have to dig back into the making of Episode I. There was something about wanting to make them Duros a la ANH, but having physical actors in masks altered the look too much (not counting the ornate hats to hide the cooling fans). The online artists have shown the only way to correctly portray Duros in live-action and have their mouths move is to digitally alter someone in a mask, and that tech wasn't there yet in '98. WETA really broke that ground with Gollum in Two Towers a few years later.

And they could've just glued a toothpick in the corner of the mask's mouth, for cripe's sake.

Yeeahhh, I don't think Garsa is the big bad.

The obvious still being Crimson Dawn. But they might just pull a low level thing with it just being the Pykes. They are going full steam ahead with cameos though, so I'm not surprised if Qi'ra pops up.
How about... Garsa was put there by Crimson Dawn. Remember Qi'ra's "job" in Solo aboard Vos' ship.

Why in the hell is Luke wearing a glove five years after ROTJ? You would think he would get his hand fixed. Wearing a glove all the time would get old. They never explained what happened to his hand in the future to make it all Terminaty
We saw that moment in ROTJ when he cut off Vader's hand and looked at his and made the connection that he was heading down that same road his father took. I agree with those positing he left it damaged as a reminder, and mostly wears the glove around "company". By the ST, the rest of the synthflesh has either worn off or he removed it so as to not hide it from himself, or anyone else. Possibly spurred by that night in Ben's bedroom.

Also if he was at the Temple wouldn't he know Yoda? It's a pretty tightknit group.
That's one of my larger problems. Yoda trained all the Younglings. Grogu would've definitely been in his classes.

I guess there's just no pleasing some fans. Some complain about the ST and how they hate Rey, Finn, & Kylo and want more OT characters. Then we get a show featuring one of the OT characters and we get complaints about how they're using OT characters instead of new or ST characters. At this point, Disney is damned if they do and damned if they don't. No matter what they do there is just no pleasing even a majority of fans.
We want content that doesn't suck -- in any era. I personally -- and I know others on here agree -- wanted Kathleen to tell Bob Iger that they'd release a new Star Wars film when they'd had time to figure out what they were doing and do it, and not be pushed. I wanted there to be an actual cohesive, agreed-to sense of where the story was going, and the broad strokes of how to get there. I wanted them to get Mark, Carrie, Harrison, Billy Dee, Denis, and whomever else they could in to film a whole bunch of content just in case. And then start working on the immediate post-ROTJ period while simultaneously prepping for where things would go with Oscar and Daisy and John. Get a whole lot of principle photography shot and then settle in to work on what was going to be movies and what was going to be on their forthcoming streaming service.

An actual cohesive, coherent vision that JJ is famous for not being able to do. A story from a Story Group that gets as much wrong as right. I rigorous selection process to find the best writers and directors to do it. Disney screwed it up by pushing. JJ screwed it up by jumping over way too much the audience needed to see and know going in to TFA. Kathleen screwed it up by agreeing rather than pushing back. The rest has been damage control, only marginally successful.

Speaking of ice cream makers, I'm surprised that it took this for someone to mention it. I don't always get all of the Easter eggs that show up in this show but even I caught the ice cream maker as soon as I saw it. What really surprises me is that no one here has complained about in some way. No comments about how it's a cheap nod to ESB, how it's the wrong model of ice cream maker, it's the wrong color, it shouldn't be in the show, etc. :p
We knew it was coming before The Mandalorian launched. We'd long figured that, despite the fact that they'd used an ice-cream maker for the prop in ESB, it likely wasn't an ice-cream maker in-universe. A container for valuables made sense for an emergency evacuation. Outside of that, I expect there are at least as many variations in comtonos as there have been in, say, the last twenty years of Schwan-Stabilo Swing Cool highlighters. Manufacturers tend to change things up over time. We can recognize what it is as well as we can recognize an ANH Hero or ESB Stunt DL-44 as different models of the same blaster.
 
There are a nonzero number of posts and a couple pages in this very thread. Largely spurred by me. I had some memory lapses about Special Edition crap, which doesn't shock me, but apart from that I maintain all the way to now that the "Boba" who got taken out like a punk in ROTJ was an imposter.


What I don't get is why it's so... bad. Kev's been making and perfecting his OSCS armor for over a decade. It's dead-on to the original CGI assets in episodes II and III. There are physical helmets out there from both licensed and nonlicensed vendors. There are plenty of options for accurate Phase II clone trooper armor, helmets, and blasters out there. Why go to the effort and expense of making new inaccurate gear?


This summed up my take. As the videos up online already from people who have fixed it, I feel his skin should have been a bit more lifelike (darker substrate under transparent outer layers, like real skin), his mouth needed to be lower to match the members of his species we've already seen (which also matches his animated appearance), his teeth were Too Much™, his eyes should've not glowed, and should've had the horizontal pupils.

The Neimoidians were created as a related but distinct species. I'll have to dig back into the making of Episode I. There was something about wanting to make them Duros a la ANH, but having physical actors in masks altered the look too much (not counting the ornate hats to hide the cooling fans). The online artists have shown the only way to correctly portray Duros in live-action and have their mouths move is to digitally alter someone in a mask, and that tech wasn't there yet in '98. WETA really broke that ground with Gollum in Two Towers a few years later.

And they could've just glued a toothpick in the corner of the mask's mouth, for cripe's sake.


How about... Garsa was put there by Crimson Dawn. Remember Qi'ra's "job" in Solo aboard Vos' ship.


We saw that moment in ROTJ when he cut off Vader's hand and looked at his and made the connection that he was heading down that same road his father took. I agree with those positing he left it damaged as a reminder, and mostly wears the glove around "company". By the ST, the rest of the synthflesh has either worn off or he removed it so as to not hide it from himself, or anyone else. Possibly spurred by that night in Ben's bedroom.


That's one of my larger problems. Yoda trained all the Younglings. Grogu would've definitely been in his classes.


We want content that doesn't suck -- in any era. I personally -- and I know others on here agree -- wanted Kathleen to tell Bob Iger that they'd release a new Star Wars film when they'd had time to figure out what they were doing and do it, and not be pushed. I wanted there to be an actual cohesive, agreed-to sense of where the story was going, and the broad strokes of how to get there. I wanted them to get Mark, Carrie, Harrison, Billy Dee, Denis, and whomever else they could in to film a whole bunch of content just in case. And then start working on the immediate post-ROTJ period while simultaneously prepping for where things would go with Oscar and Daisy and John. Get a whole lot of principle photography shot and then settle in to work on what was going to be movies and what was going to be on their forthcoming streaming service.

An actual cohesive, coherent vision that JJ is famous for not being able to do. A story from a Story Group that gets as much wrong as right. I rigorous selection process to find the best writers and directors to do it. Disney screwed it up by pushing. JJ screwed it up by jumping over way too much the audience needed to see and know going in to TFA. Kathleen screwed it up by agreeing rather than pushing back. The rest has been damage control, only marginally successful.


We knew it was coming before The Mandalorian launched. We'd long figured that, despite the fact that they'd used an ice-cream maker for the prop in ESB, it likely wasn't an ice-cream maker in-universe. A container for valuables made sense for an emergency evacuation. Outside of that, I expect there are at least as many variations in comtonos as there have been in, say, the last twenty years of Schwan-Stabilo Swing Cool highlighters. Manufacturers tend to change things up over time. We can recognize what it is as well as we can recognize an ANH Hero or ESB Stunt DL-44 as different models of the same blaster.
My guess is there is some new project we don't know about that uses them enough to warrant them redesigning them to be more realistic vs just being cool looking troopers that don't work in reality. Here's the thing.....reality is just a suggestion and in my version of reality the originals worked fine.
 
My wife just came up with a great theory.

Boba is reading "The Book of Boba Fett." This is why he has not been in the last two episodes. Also I think whoever wrote the book he is reading sucks at writing him. I am sure he feels the same.

It's so ironic. The only good thing in the Boob of Boba Fett are the things that have nothing to do with him.
 
I'm surprised they did this to the series though, I don't think it's fair to the actor and it IS called "The Book of Boba Fett". These two eps so far should have been Mando crossovers or something like comic books do.

Yeah I'm seeing a lot of people that are mystified as to what the thinking was when they were planning this series out. Truly bizarre, even if the errant episodes themselves are great. I agree it doesn't seem fair to Temuera Morrison and frankly a lot of Boba Fett fans don't appreciate the bait and switch. That Fett has not being written as a particularly interesting or compelling character is only more salt on the wound. So nice that Boba Fett would dedicate a chapter of his book to a baby he's never met and to one of his enemies. Lol!
 
Yeah I'm seeing a lot of people that are mystified as to what the thinking was when they were planning this series out. Truly bizarre, even if the errant episodes themselves are great. I agree it doesn't seem fair to Temuera Morrison and frankly a lot of Boba Fett fans don't appreciate the bait and switch. That Fett has not being written as a particularly interesting or compelling character is only more salt on the wound. So nice that Boba Fett would dedicate a chapter of his book to a baby he's never met and to one of his enemies. Lol!
On a Fett podcast this week they were mentioning how the Official numbering showed Boba series are labelled Mandalorian 3.0..3.1 Etc.. I don't know how substantiated this is if at all ?
 
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