NakedMoleRat
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I’m lost. I came here to make fun of Fett, but… I must be in the wrong thread.
Slow your Roll.. I'm taking that!Crap on a cracker, you guys. Slow your roll!
The Story Group was formed in 2008, well before Lucas sold the company to Disney. They were trying to massage and maintain continuity in the new stuff coming out after the Prequels, especially given how much was coming out in the late '00s.
But yes, George always reserved the right to use or steamroll anything in any game, comic, or novel published. He skimmed some, occasionally, but didn't really care about keeping up with it. That's how he ran across, liked, and used "Coruscant" for the Republic-era name for that planet, from Tim Zahn's books... And that's also how he and Katie utterly destroyed the good backstories for Maul, Ventress, and the Nightsisters.
So after the Disney sale, with no George, they didn't need to keep all the tie-in material in a lower tier, and decided to "decertify" everything that had been published prior to that point. The only stuff that's really gone-gone is everything after the wipe to credits at the end of ROTJ. There was way too much in the post-Jedi EU that was problematic, so that got blank-slated. Meanwhile, everything else up to that point that hadn't been already contradicted by George is still tacitly "in" unless overwritten later. See things like the Open Season reference in Mandalorian season 2 vis-a-vis the erroneous provenance of Boba's armor.
What I don't get is why they have since, as was mentioned, not stuck with the new canon material they were creating. Nothing in the changed versions that came later necessitated the change. Cobb Vanth's story in Aftermath, fo rinstance, was fine. It didn't need to be tweaked. The fact that such things are happening is rather worrisome to me.
Overall? Only the people who are emotionally invested in Star Wars are being vocal, in either direction. Casual fans are largely silent, but I can point to anecdata. My parents took me with them when they went to see Star Wars in '77. I was a well-behaved two-year-old and it was fine. I don't remember much, but I remember some. My mom took me again when I was five and eight to see the next two, bought me a membership in the fan club, got me action figures and books and comics and model kits and Burger King glasses, and just generally supported my passion for it. The first thing I "helped" her sew, well before I soloed, was a Luke Skywalker flight suit for Halloween in second grade.
She didn't go see the Special Editions, but still has the OT VHS box set she got back in the '80s. We went to see TPM in '99 and she thought it was okay. Some parts she liked, some failed to land. She didn't like the writing of AOTC at all. And didn't bother to see ROTS. I saw that one with my dad on Father's Day. My mom and I went to see TFA when it came out and she liked it. Hit her in all the nostalgia JJ intended. Then we went to see Rogue One and she was confused. She though Tarkin was dead and hadn't the Rebels blown up the Death Star twice? Had to explain a couple times that it wasn't part of the numbered-episode saga, but a standalone set right before the original film. She saw TLJ with me and liked a couple moments, but mostly was bored with it. Didn't see TROS. She watches Clone Wars, Rebels, and Solo when I'm working in her sewing room and have them on, but she's not invested.
That's the general trend. Casual fans' reactions to sub-par content has been to just lose interest and wander off to something else -- whenever that might have been. For some people ROTJ was that point that killed it for them. Some didn't like the Special Edition tweaks and left before Episode I. Some were bored with TPM and didn't bother with anything after. And so on. There are a lot of people who liked Star Wars back in the day who stopped caring. Some have drifted back due to word of mouth about The Mandalorian. Many haven't.
I didn't like that whole storyline. But that was the worst part of it.
Near as I can tell, he is how he seems. I have always been mindful that they're actual people, and generally don't like to make a scene or disrupt their routine. The ones I like I like for who they are. They're all human and flawed, but I don't gravitate to the deeply flawed ones. I had Peter O'Toole autograph his autobiography at a book store signing and it's still a prized possession. I have George Roubicek's and Nalini Krishan's autographed pictures from Celebration (Praji and Bariss Offee, respectively), because they're really cool people. Jeremy Bulloch signed my silver convention-exclusive Boba Fett when I was working at the Paizo booth that was selling them at SDCC (and that he was signing at), despite my not wanting to impose. He insisted. He was that kinda guy.
Michael O'Hare (Sinclair from Babylon 5) used to hang out at the same indie book shop in Tribeca that I frequented when I lived in New York. His son went to Stuyvesant High School, at the end of the street, and because he was a regular and friend of the owner, the shop had B5 viewing parties every week when the new episodes aired. We talked about a lot of things, geeked out about stuff, he signed one of the store's viewing-party window posters for me one week on a lark, and I still have it. I wish I'd known what he was struggling with, even if I don't know that I could've helped. I have a picture of Bruce Boxleitner as Tron, because that was how I first knew him, and got another of him as Alan from Tron: Legacy when he was at DragonCon a few years ago (before Disney cancelled the next film). And so on. I've got more packed away in my memorabilia files (not much display space where I am currently living).
Far and away my favorite is still this one, later signed by him at his autograph table:
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Wonderful guy. And I've loved every role I've ever seen him in. Watch Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, if you never have.The trick is not to not meet your heroes, but to do due diligence ot make sure they actually are. Lance Armstrong always came off as an *******, to me.
So Duros' mouths migrate upward as they age? Who knew...?
Its that time of the week where we have exhausted our views on BOBF lol..I’m lost. I came here to make fun of Fett, but… I must be in the wrong thread.
We have finally achieved our goal by confusing NakedMoleRat so much that there are no one liners to be had! Success! Now, start setting him back up- I truly miss his witty banter!I’m lost. I came here to make fun of Fett, but… I must be in the wrong thread.
Can't believe they brought Crypto from Destroy All Humans into the SW universe!
Well, I figure he must be a Force wielder. I mean, he seems to have an invisible touch …How can you not love Phil??
It all sinks to the bottom. That's what my mom tells me all the time......Nope... Their chins droop.
Mondays are always rough for me..Its that time of the week where we have exhausted our views on BOBF lol..
I went from instant p2ssed to laughing.. thought I was just spoiled wicked quick phhhheeeewwwwI call do over…
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I still don’t get the hate over his prosthetic face..So speaking of Bane's chin/mouth. I've noticed the Black Series figure is made to look a little closer to a "realistic" look then an animated look. And on the figure, he definitely has more chin.
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Oh H3ll yeah!!As I just want to listen to a wicked cool Sabbath cover, Halliwax loves Ozzy and I think (?) we’re going to war, here you go, last song of the week…
I was just about to mention that......
Wow, Zac Brown rocks pretty well for a country dude. Respect.As I just want to listen to a wicked cool Sabbath cover, Halliwax loves Ozzy and I think (?) we’re going to war, here you go, last song of the week…
I saw this in Star Wars Theory’s video earlier today. Really weird that the official stance was ‘he built a new one’ but the on screen evidence now points the other direction…
I knifa wish somebody could hit up Matt Martin on Twitter. I wonder if Lucasfilm is even aware? I mean it's not very noticeable. And I've seen ROTS numerous times, and I've always thought Yoda lost his saber.I saw this in Star Wars Theory’s video earlier today. Really weird that the official stance was ‘he built a new one’ but the on screen evidence now points the other direction…