The Book of Boba Fett

[Wolfsburg]

I never thought Sebastian Stan looked *that* much like Luke beyond maybe a passing resemblance. I’m not a fan of recasting but maybe if they deepfaked Hamill’s face but used Stan’s performance? They did that with Tarkin (used an actual actor and not just a stand in) and got decent results although the CGI face wasn’t quiiiiite ready for primetime. I’d love to see them quietly update Tarkin. The tech is getting better and better.

 

[Grievous]

I do feel really bad for the die hard Fett fans who were probably beyond excited about a series devoted to their favorite character. He will likely go full fury at some point but it’s obvious the series isn’t about him. Please, please don’t do this to Obi-Wan…

 

[NeoRutty]

This Luke has been my nightmare since the beginning.

Goody goody, boring.... and also not Mark Hammil... just a weird robot.

Edge him up, Sebastian Stan him.

I would never want to be a Jedi... They act like those lifeless dogs after Cesar Millan gets a hold of em.

 

[Wolfsburg]

I do feel really bad for the die hard Fett fans who were probably beyond excited about a series devoted to their favorite character. He will likely go full fury at some point but it’s obvious the series isn’t about him. Please, please don’t do this to Obi-Wan…

I definitely know there are people in the Fett fan community that are beyond irate over this whole thing. His characterization, going off on unnecessary, non-Fett related tangents, etc.

 

[Halliwax]

I do feel really bad for the die hard Fett fans who were probably beyond excited about a series devoted to their favorite character. He will likely go full fury at some point but it’s obvious the series isn’t about him. Please, please don’t do this to Obi-Wan…

pretty sure this is a given.. especially with filoni and fav's not being heavily involved. i dont care much for fett to begin with so this isn't a loss for me... but Kenobi is my man. after seeing the concept art i pray that those are nightmares or something and that we DONT see kenobi and vader duel again... if we do i won't finish the series, over it lol

 

[Wolfsburg]

This Luke has been my nightmare since the beginning.

Goody goody, boring.... and also not Mark Hammil... just a weird robot.

Edge him up, Sebastian Stan him.

I would never want to be a Jedi... They act like those lifeless dogs after Cesar Millan gets a hold of em.

Luke was always the boyscout, farmboy at heart. Honestly, Luke was also always a bit wooden. I get why some wouldn’t like it but that’s just Luke, imo. A recast, “edgy” Luke wouldn’t interest me at all.

 

[MaxZHun]

I do feel really bad for the die hard Fett fans who were probably beyond excited about a series devoted to their favorite character. He will likely go full fury at some point but it’s obvious the series isn’t about him. Please, please don’t do this to Obi-Wan…

Yeah pretty much a side character in his own show, well the show itself is a 'side show' to The Mandalorian I would say. Fennec is the one wearing the trousers.

 

[Wolfsburg]

pretty sure this is a given.. especially with filoni and fav's not being heavily involved. i dont care much for fett to begin with so this isn't a loss for me... but Kenobi is my man. after seeing the concept art i pray that those are nightmares or something and that we DONT see kenobi and vader duel again... if we do i won't finish the series, over it lol

Totally agree. It’ll be a miracle if they can even substantially pull this off. There’s just so much that could go wrong.

 

[CopperRevan]

I think you're hoping for something that will never happen. You're hoping, even secretly, that the ST will somehow be erased by "this" Luke. That any new content with him will wash the bad taste of the ST from your mind. Until those movies are erased (and frankly I doubt they ever will be) no matter what they do with Luke, he still ends up the coward from that trilogy. That's my point. If continuity matters to you, you'll still arrive at the same destination. This point seems to be lost on a lot of fans, even those I am in agreement with about the ST as being utterly worthless trash.

That said, as far as my love of the trilogy goes, it took me some time to recognize what specifically I wanted from this content. I read most of the EU back in the 90s because at that age I consumed anything Star Wars, but I've outgrown that type of fandom and having more doesn't always equate to fulfillment. Then I watched the Prequels, and then gave TFA, then Rogue One, then TLJ a chance. That's when I cut my ties. I skipped the rest. So I put my money where my convictions were and sold off what little official merchandise I had other than a few essentials.

After constant questioning from well meaning friends I gave Mando a shot. Season one showed real promise, and then it became cameo of the week. It wasn't for me because they weren't willing to believe in their original characters enough to let them stand on their own, which is why I even gave it a chance in the first place. You ask, how I could live with myself and not feel like a hypocrite? I got to see it for free. I didn't give Disney a dime, and when I saw what was coming down the pike I just said nope, I'm good, and left. People truly understimate the power they hold as consumers.

So you ask, why would I bother posting in the forums if my fandom is "done?" Just because I only like the OT and the story is over, it doesn't mean I shouldn't stop loving it. Nor does it mean I can't have an opinion on something I'm passionate about. Plus writing and intellectual discussion is how I process information, and I get to talk with friends so that's a win in my book. Star Wars has never stopped inspiring me and just because the story ended (for me) doesn't mean that inspiration ended. In fact I think that's what everyone has been chasing since. Inspiration.

Ultimately each person has to decide what they want from their content and how each person defines their "fandom" is going to vary. I just feel that we need to be honest with each other and more importantly honest with ourselves.

Listen...i'm in agreement with most of what you say...most of the time. The real issue, especially for us OT folk is, how do we say goodbye...to our childhood? We don't let it go...we hang on and everything that comes next is like an infringement on that childhood. It's a lot easier to say the story is complete, dead and buried...then 30 years later, some idiot digs up the body and defiles it...it hurts, it makes you upset...i totally get it friend. You know i hated the ST...absolutely disgusted me...but now i'm in a quandry, like you. I mean they ruined it...yet, i love Star Wars and the memories i had and i see my kids loving Star Wars too. With that being said i still think there are good things that happen even though i know it will eventually lead to the ST and beyond. Don't get me wrong, i'm a realist. I get you. It's just we have a choice to make. i'm choosing to remain open to new things..i may not like them. My comments weren't aimed and saying you should leave at all or me, for that matter. I'm just saying that if we are just going to continue to not like things because they just won't ever live up to "the good ole days" standards we are in for even more misery. You make an excellent point because i left Star Wars after the ST... i was flippin mad!! Then i opened up to Mando..loved it. Then they fired Gina Carano...I left again and vowed to be done with this nonsense for good. Tired of the political correctness...tired of the watered down Universe...Just plain old tired of the BS. BUT...i came back. Nobody cares if i did or didn't. I don't know any of you personally. I guess i just get tired. I focused on lightsabers and props. Decided to watch TBOBF and tried the patient, optimistic approach. For me, on one hand it paid off. On the other hand, it didn't for me personally. My personal struggle has come to a head and it's decision time for me once again...like Grogu...like Mando. I agree with being honest with yourself...So i am. Hate the ST, Love the OT. Love Mando, no so much TBOBF but there are little gems within all of it i like(even though it's very hard to see in the ST...lol). Honestly, you hit a nerve with me...not your fault, it's mine. If i'm being totally honest and transparent here i just think it's time in my life to move on from Star Wars completely...100% not 1 foot in and 1 foot out. I loved it too much as a child and as an adult i've lugged it around with me over my shoulder, just holding on really to ROTJ...Yes, i did not like the prequels...i liked little Anakins story in his childhood but the Prequels would have been better if they didn't do it at all and just made a Darth Vader Movie detailing the life of Anakin Skywalker leading up to A New Hope. You all have been great but i'm really glad these last few weeks gave me a tiny glimpse of Luke that i really wanted to see for so many years and i still think there is good left in Star Wars so i choose to see the good and not make myself miserable with the stuff i don't like. Thank you for your comments and i hope the inspiration remains i guess my true inspiration exists well outside of this made up universe and (I'm speaking for myself only) i need to put my childhood behind me for good and believe and open myself up to NOT think that my best days are behind me...they are ahead of me even though numerically, i have less days ahead of me than behind me...lol. Anyways...MTFBWYA. you all have been fun and please forgive me for my moodiness...Star Wars has been a drug i've been addicted to way too long and i've tried to quit cold turkey but now i really must. I've never really been good at good byes.

 

[NeoRutty]

Luke was always the boyscout, farmboy at heart. Honestly, Luke was also always a bit wooden. I get why some wouldn’t like it but that’s just Luke, imo. A recast, “edgy” Luke wouldn’t interest me at all.

He was a boyscout, but not a sexless emotionless NPC.

I'm not saying he needs to be recast edgy... he just needs to be played by a real human, and have some actual conflict...

So far he's just been a mannequin outside of TLJ - which at least tried to do something different and interesting.

folded hand jedi's being all diplomatic and serious is BORING *cough* Phantom menace opening *cough*.

I think they're doing wonders with the tech, but Jeez. It wasn't Luke. All I could see is all the people holding him up and pulling strings.

Even Ahsoka's tone... Just lifeless people.

Mando and Grogu (A PUPPET) where the only ones who had any life in em.

So yeah, GRAB THE CHAIN MAIL GROGU!!! GET OUT OF THERE!!!!!

 

[Wolfsburg]

Listen...i'm in agreement with most of what you say...most of the time. The real issue, especially for us OT folk is, how do we say goodbye...to our childhood? We don't let it go...we hang on and everything that comes next is like an infringement on that childhood. It's a lot easier to say the story is complete, dead and buried...then 30 years later, some idiot digs up the body and defiles it...it hurts, it makes you upset...i totally get it friend. You know i hated the ST...absolutely disgusted me...but now i'm in a quandry, like you. I mean they ruined it...yet, i love Star Wars and the memories i had and i see my kids loving Star Wars too. With that being said i still think there are good things that happen even though i know it will eventually lead to the ST and beyond. Don't get me wrong, i'm a realist. I get you. It's just we have a choice to make. i'm choosing to remain open to new things..i may not like them. My comments weren't aimed and saying you should leave at all or me, for that matter. I'm just saying that if we are just going to continue to not like things because they just won't ever live up to "the good ole days" standards we are in for even more misery. You make an excellent point because i left Star Wars after the ST... i was flippin mad!! Then i opened up to Mando..loved it. Then they fired Gina Carano...I left again and vowed to be done with this nonsense for good. Tired of the political correctness...tired of the watered down Universe...Just plain old tired of the BS. BUT...i came back. Nobody cares if i did or didn't. I don't know any of you personally. I guess i just get tired. I focused on lightsabers and props. Decided to watch TBOBF and tried the patient, optimistic approach. For me, on one hand it paid off. On the other hand, it didn't for me personally. My personal struggle has come to a head and it's decision time for me once again...like Grogu...like Mando. I agree with being honest with yourself...So i am. Hate the ST, Love the OT. Love Mando, no so much TBOBF but there are little gems within all of it i like(even though it's very hard to see in the ST...lol). Honestly, you hit a nerve with me...not your fault, it's mine. If i'm being totally honest and transparent here i just think it's time in my life to move on from Star Wars completely...100% not 1 foot in and 1 foot out. I loved it too much as a child and as an adult i've lugged it around with me over my shoulder, just holding on really to ROTJ...Yes, i did not like the prequels...i liked little Anakins story in his childhood but the Prequels would have been better if they didn't do it at all and just made a Darth Vader Movie detailing the life of Anakin Skywalker leading up to A New Hope. You all have been great but i'm really glad these last few weeks gave me a tiny glimpse of Luke that i really wanted to see for so many years and i still think there is good left in Star Wars so i choose to see the good and not make myself miserable with the stuff i don't like. Thank you for your comments and i hope the inspiration remains i guess my true inspiration exists well outside of this made up universe and (I'm speaking for myself only) i need to put my childhood behind me for good and believe and open myself up to NOT think that my best days are behind me...they are ahead of me even though numerically, i have less days ahead of me than behind me...lol. Anyways...MTFBWYA. you all have been fun and please forgive me for my moodiness...Star Wars has been a drug i've been addicted to way too long and i've tried to quit cold turkey but now i really must. I've never really been good at good byes.

I don’t think you have to go and your input is valued here. You can still love the OT and focus on that, even if you never watch any of the new stuff coming out in the future. There’s very little outside the OT that I like but The Mandalorian has been a fun, if imperfect ride. TBOBF has had some real gems too and could’ve been amazing but it has just limped along so far. The best parts didn’t even feature poor Fett at all!

 

[NeoRutty]

I'm one of the few who liked TLJ take on Luke...

But then I like characters to grow and evolve... not devolve into walking statues....

That said I also liked WW 84 and hated new Ghostbusters.... so... I dunno.

But if everyone loves Luke CGIwalker, well... they'll keep doing it. Godspeed.

 

[Wolfsburg]

He was a boyscout, but not a sexless emotionless NPC.

I'm not saying he needs to be recast edgy... he just needs to be played by a real human, and have some actual conflict...

So far he's just been a mannequin outside of TLJ - which at least tried to do something different and interesting.

folded hand jedi's being all diplomatic and serious is BORING *cough* Phantom menace opening *cough*.

I think they're doing wonders with the tech, but Jeez. It wasn't Luke. All I could see is all the people holding him up and pulling strings.

Even Ahsoka's tone... Just lifeless people.

Mando and Grogu (A PUPPET) where the only ones who had any life in em.

So yeah, GRAB THE CHAIN MAIL GROGU!!! GET OUT OF THERE!!!!!

For me, he really isn’t acting so different than he ever did, even with the folded hands (Jabba’s Palace lol). I don’t think it’s so out of character for him to try to act “formal” and “Jedi-like”, which yes, is kinda stiff and wooden. I’m particularly thinking of RoTJ Luke, which the “new Luke” would be an extension of.

 

[Grievous]

Listen...i'm in agreement with most of what you say...most of the time. The real issue, especially for us OT folk is, how do we say goodbye...to our childhood? We don't let it go...we hang on and everything that comes next is like an infringement on that childhood. It's a lot easier to say the story is complete, dead and buried...then 30 years later, some idiot digs up the body and defiles it...it hurts, it makes you upset...i totally get it friend. You know i hated the ST...absolutely disgusted me...but now i'm in a quandry, like you. I mean they ruined it...yet, i love Star Wars and the memories i had and i see my kids loving Star Wars too. With that being said i still think there are good things that happen even though i know it will eventually lead to the ST and beyond. Don't get me wrong, i'm a realist. I get you. It's just we have a choice to make. i'm choosing to remain open to new things..i may not like them. My comments weren't aimed and saying you should leave at all or me, for that matter. I'm just saying that if we are just going to continue to not like things because they just won't ever live up to "the good ole days" standards we are in for even more misery. You make an excellent point because i left Star Wars after the ST... i was flippin mad!! Then i opened up to Mando..loved it. Then they fired Gina Carano...I left again and vowed to be done with this nonsense for good. Tired of the political correctness...tired of the watered down Universe...Just plain old tired of the BS. BUT...i came back. Nobody cares if i did or didn't. I don't know any of you personally. I guess i just get tired. I focused on lightsabers and props. Decided to watch TBOBF and tried the patient, optimistic approach. For me, on one hand it paid off. On the other hand, it didn't for me personally. My personal struggle has come to a head and it's decision time for me once again...like Grogu...like Mando. I agree with being honest with yourself...So i am. Hate the ST, Love the OT. Love Mando, no so much TBOBF but there are little gems within all of it i like(even though it's very hard to see in the ST...lol). Honestly, you hit a nerve with me...not your fault, it's mine. If i'm being totally honest and transparent here i just think it's time in my life to move on from Star Wars completely...100% not 1 foot in and 1 foot out. I loved it too much as a child and as an adult i've lugged it around with me over my shoulder, just holding on really to ROTJ...Yes, i did not like the prequels...i liked little Anakins story in his childhood but the Prequels would have been better if they didn't do it at all and just made a Darth Vader Movie detailing the life of Anakin Skywalker leading up to A New Hope. You all have been great but i'm really glad these last few weeks gave me a tiny glimpse of Luke that i really wanted to see for so many years and i still think there is good left in Star Wars so i choose to see the good and not make myself miserable with the stuff i don't like. Thank you for your comments and i hope the inspiration remains i guess my true inspiration exists well outside of this made up universe and (I'm speaking for myself only) i need to put my childhood behind me for good and believe and open myself up to NOT think that my best days are behind me...they are ahead of me even though numerically, i have less days ahead of me than behind me...lol. Anyways...MTFBWYA. you all have been fun and please forgive me for my moodiness...Star Wars has been a drug i've been addicted to way too long and i've tried to quit cold turkey but now i really must. I've never really been good at good byes.

We’ll be here for you if you need us. These stories have super strong emotional ties to our childhood and it’s hard to see them altered or changed in inexplicable ways. Take care.

 

[NeoRutty]

For me, he really isn’t acting so different than he ever did, even with the folded hands (Jabba’s Palace lol). I don’t think it’s so out of character for him to try to act “proper” and “Jedi-like”, which yes, is kinda stiff and wooden. I’m particularly thinking of RoTJ Luke, which the “new Luke” would be an extension of.

Concur to a point... When he enters Jabba's layer he was very proper and intimidating....

But when he was one on one with Han, or walking in the bush on Endor, he relaxed.

This is like he's putting on a show... but for a toddler.

If he dropped even a little in tone, relaxed... talk to Grogu like he talks to R2...

But even him talking to Ahsoka... just two people, social distancing.... and not really talking to each other (Ahsoka to a stand in) - the dialogue is even and bland...

Filoni clearly worked in animation.... he's way too used to his clone wars expressionless faces. this doesn't bump for him.

 

[Wolfsburg]

Concur to a point... When he enters Jabba's layer he was very proper and intimidating....

But when he was one on one with Han, or walking in the bush on Endor, he relaxed.

This is like he's putting on a show... but for a toddler.

If he dropped even a little in tone, relaxed... talk to Grogu like he talks to R2...

But even him talking to Ahsoka... just two people, social distancing.... and not really talking to each other (Ahsoka to a stand in) - the dialogue is even and bland...

Filoni clearly worked in animation.... he's way too used to his clone wars expressionless faces. this doesn't bump for him.

I do think he’s trying to be a “model Jedi” for Grogu. This is his first student afterall. I’m assuming he doesn’t really know Ahsoka that well so I’m unsure how comfortable he is around her. I get what you’re saying but I actually think the “wooden” aspects lend itself to the deepfake. For someone more dynamic, like Han, that is another story.

 

[David3]

To go with ones head, or ones heart?
Its never about choice.. but balance
To deny one or the other leads to suffering
et cetera.. et cetera..
Grogu is young he needs both to grow to be a truly strong adult

 

[NeoRutty]

I do think he’s trying to be a “model Jedi” for Grogu. This is his first student afterall. I’m assuming he doesn’t really know Ahsoka that well so I’m unsure how comfortable he is around her. I get what you’re saying but I actually think the “wooden” aspects lend itself to the deepfake. For someone more dynamic, like Han, that is another story.

If they try and do this with Han it will be humorous... Luke they're passing with cuz the Character CAN be emotionless....

Han grumbling, mumbling and smirking will be fun to see the attempt anyway.

I'm not following spoilers... I just watch when I see it's on... but names keep coming up in this thread I'm surprised they may attempt.

RECAST RECAST RECAST!!!

I don't like animated Star Wars!!!!

 

[Mottrex]

How ‘The Book of Boba Fett’ Costume Designer Shawna Trpcic Captures the Spirit of the Original ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy

'The Book of Boba Fett' captures the original aesthetic of the 'Star Wars' trilogy. Costume designer Shawna Trpcic explains how.

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Its a Shame they blew up Garsa's pleasure palace or whatever it was called..
It was such a cool set and prolly the best portrayal of a futurist nightclub bar..
One of my pet hates in movies is half the time extras just can't act or limply fist bump the air. "We're looking at you Podrace scene" but Garsas looked realistic and the patrons certainly looked like they were having fun..

 

[Mottrex]

I never thought Sebastian Stan looked *that* much like Luke beyond maybe a passing resemblance. I’m not a fan of recasting but maybe if they deepfaked Hamill’s face but used Stan’s performance? They did that with Tarkin (used an actual actor and not just a stand in) and got decent results although the CGI face wasn’t quiiiiite ready for primetime. I’d love to see them quietly update Tarkin. The tech is getting better and better.

Yeah the actor is quite well known in the UK, he's a regular on Casualty as a Dr/surgeon..his voice was way off though I thought.