Too Much Garlic
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I couldn't get the straight groove option to work. So with this people can just file the edges down... or I may try to alter it.
T1 and T2 Endoskeleton Research Thread
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Too Much Garlic
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Well, I attempted a square cut-out. Actually managed to do it, and in less time it would have taken to clean up the other model. The geometry on the new model has been cleaned up and everything looks good.
Just wondering how they created the chrome look for the movies. And did they use the same technique for both?
If I had to guess, without looking into in any further, as I'm in a hurry right now, but, they might have used actual metal, as I have read the props were quite heavy.
Or, they used the real way to chrome something by using a chemical reaction to make it, maybe both with real metal.
Now we have all these paints to try and mimic it best it can, with different results, but I have a feeling they didn't even have that stuff available way back then.
I just find it so awesome how such a cool and sophisticated look was created for the first movie in 1984.
Also, about a month ago I showed my roommates son the first two, who just turned 20 and hadn't seen any of the movies. He of course knew things like, I'll be Back, but not really the context in why it was said.
He really liked them.
I got a kicked out of him, everytime the T-1000 "dies"....only to remorph back together....I should have filmed his reaction....so great.
If I had to guess, without looking into in any further, as I'm in a hurry right now, but, they might have used actual metal, as I have read the props were quite heavy.
Or, they used the real way to chrome something by using a chemical reaction to make it, maybe both with real metal.
Now we have all these paints to try and mimic it best it can, with different results, but I have a feeling they didn't even have that stuff available way back then.
I just find it so awesome how such a cool and sophisticated look was created for the first movie in 1984.
Also, about a month ago I showed my roommates son the first two, who just turned 20 and hadn't seen any of the movies. He of course knew things like, I'll be Back, but not really the context in why it was said.
He really liked them.
I got a kicked out of him, everytime the T-1000 "dies"....only to remorph back together....I should have filmed his reaction....so great.
Too Much Garlic
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Cool.
I'm pretty sure the first one was vac-metalized. Unsure whether the second movie was as well. The props look like they might have been.
You can tell that the T2-3D endoskeletons have a very different chrome finish, so they were probably triple-chromed.
Since I found that endo with the eye castings as the ends of the chest piston, I thought it could be fun to do that with the 3D model as well.
I'm pretty sure the first one was vac-metalized. Unsure whether the second movie was as well. The props look like they might have been.
You can tell that the T2-3D endoskeletons have a very different chrome finish, so they were probably triple-chromed.
Since I found that endo with the eye castings as the ends of the chest piston, I thought it could be fun to do that with the 3D model as well.
They did sure a great job on those movies.
Stan Winston did amazing work.....can't believe its already been just over 15 years since he died.
Stan Winston did amazing work.....can't believe its already been just over 15 years since he died.
Fett_Ish
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I would start out with more segments to avoid that puckering at the corners. For a model like this it may be easier to just make it “straight” using high poly primitive. I finally got myself a resin printer and while I can model anything using sub d I wish I had learned Soliworks when I had the chance.
ghostman
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Subdivision Surface Modeling
This is a modeling technique for making high-resolution models, by manipulating a lower-resolution "cage" model and using software to subdivide for a smoother surface.
Subdividing increases the number of vertices on the model, making curves more rounded. Usually each subdivision level increases the vertex count 4x the original count.
For game artists, "high-poly hard-surface" usually means creating mechanical/constructed models, which are used to bake into Normal Maps and other types of textures, which are in turn used on lower-resolution game-friendly models.
Subdivision surfaces can also be used for organic shapes.
Fett_Ish
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Yes I am aware,I have been a professional 3D artist specializing in realtime hard surface modelingfor over 20 years at this point. I make models using subdivision surface workflow for baking normal maps mostly. Making the stuff in that pic is like breathing for me at this point I have to every day all day.
The first Terminator was definitely vac- metalized. The second I’m 95% sure was also. Some say T2 was chrome plated but everything points to vac metalizing. Especially the way the props look now. The gift skulls from T2 on the other hand I’m sure are triple chrome plated. T2-3d is different somehow like No Humour Man says.
ghostman
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Thank you very much.
I tried to fix the edges sharply.
I know I can make it sharper and less distorted if I increase the polygon count.
However, I don't want to make the data too complex and heavy, so I try to keep the polygons as low as possible.
When 3D printed at 1/6 scale, if the mold is shallow, it will not come out clearly, so I carved it deeper.
I don't worry too much about slight distortion because it will disappear when I polish the lamination marks.
It either needs support edges. Or you can also mark edges as sharp to achieve a similar result while keeping the poly count low.
But unless you're creating a model for a game, poly count should not be an issue.
Too Much Garlic
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Looking cool. I think you should make the grooves wider. Almost as wide as the blue lines in the model to the left in the picture in post #767
ghostman
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If it's just the eyeballs, but I want to make it as light as possible because I will eventually have the whole body.It either needs support edges. Or you can also mark edges as sharp to achieve a similar result while keeping the poly count low.
But unless you're creating a model for a game, poly count should not be an issue.
I do not intend to make it as light as a game model.
I don't like high poly, so I'm going to make it as low poly as possible.
Low-poly model animation created previously.
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Too Much Garlic
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Uploaded the new model to my thingiverse designs. I just uploaded it in the SWS Eye one and deleted the old model instead of creating a new design for it. Will upload the updated piston later.
Cool animation.
Cool animation.
Too Much Garlic
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Found this video that I hadn't seen before.
Though not exactly Terminator related, maybe this setup with some changes can be used to make the eyes movable.
Though not exactly Terminator related, maybe this setup with some changes can be used to make the eyes movable.
ghostman
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I widened the groove slightly.
To widen it further, I would have to tinker with the polygons.
I'll leave it at that for now and think about it later.
ghostman
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Moving the eyes is a great idea.
The lack of blinking would make it somewhat easier.
I have made an animatronic mechanic before.
However, it is remote-controlled by wire cables
It is not an electric device.
Too Much Garlic
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Eye model looks great now. Perfection.
That animatronic is cute as heck.
Uploaded the large chest piston to Thingiverse. And had to re-upload the new eye as for some reason the upload got corrupted last time. So now everything should work.
That animatronic is cute as heck.
Uploaded the large chest piston to Thingiverse. And had to re-upload the new eye as for some reason the upload got corrupted last time. So now everything should work.
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