T1 and T2 Endoskeleton Research Thread

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T1 Foot


An interesting thing to note as well is that the sides and rounded part of the two-pronged fork pieces are also beveled at the outer edges. Something I have also seen on some T2 endoskeleton feet, so I will offer them in two versions - plain and beveled edges.

 

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This is the difference between the LFS big toe piston and one roughly measured from a picture of an original. The difference is HUGE.

Now that I roughly have the first toe dimensions I have something to work from when scaling up the rest of the toe piston models. It seems the shapes are fairly correct and the dimensions down the piston part - it's just the width that is difference.

 

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Please disregard the previous image. I scaled things wrong, so the proportions on the SWS one is wrong. I'll keep working on trying to get the accurate scale so I can make the 3D model accurate.

 

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A little closer now, but not finalized.

The thin rod may in fact be thinner on the originals than they are on the LFS kit. If only I could just get 1 measurement off an original foot piston piece, then I could scale everything to that. Anyone know anyone who has one of these kind of castings:

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Who'd be willing to share a few measurements with me and perhaps some close up pictures, so I can get this right? I would greatly appreciate it.

 

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Been working a little on the foot. Tried to scale things correctly based on the ankle piece the pistons attach to, and got the following. It is not perfect and I still need to change the screw heads to hex type of screws for the T1 and bevel the fork pieces at both ends of the main pistons on the top - the bottoms do not appear to be beveled - on both T1 and T2.

Added the LFS first toe piston to the left for comparison with the new SWS style toes WIP.

 

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Fifth toe rework. It seems the same shape is out towards the front on toe 2+3+4+5, so I am just copy-pasting the work I did on this toe over onto the others and resizing to fit and tweaking things compared to how the reference looks. If anyone has reference that clearly shows the pistons parts on the originals, then I'd love to see it as much of what I did here is based on best guess estimates.

 

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A whole week and not being able to get anything done. Curse the dreaded influenza.

 

[gizmo]

Hope you get better soon buddy.


Ben

 

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Thanks. I'll get right back on this when I do.

Oh, and try to get that resin printer calibrated to max printing resolution.

 

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Felt a lot better today. Still not 100%, but I put in some work fixing the ends of toe 3 and 4 and beveling the forks on either end. I'm not completely satisfied with it, 'cause it doesn't seem the bevel is at a complete 45 degree angle in the reference images... it may be less, but it should be an easy fix later. Not complete finished with the ends of toe 1 and 2.

 

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Made some fixes. Changed the angle of the bevel - looks much better now, and changed the look of the end on the main part of the third toe piston.

 

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Still not completely recovered, but felt it was okay to work on the new eye model. Took most of the day and now I'm completely exhausted. Need to go lie down.

 

[gizmo]

Wow. You’re a machine mate. Well done!


Ben

 

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Nah... I'm just not skilled enough to do it faster. That's why small things take so long. But thanks.

 

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Updated the first post with the newer models. I haven't uploaded them to Thingiverse yet. I think I'll just do a few uploads over there, with all the pistons in one upload, if I can, and the same for the feet, so there aren't so many uploads to go through, but can just get a few with everything in it.
A note: the piston dropbox file doesn't have the pictures in it showing where each piston goes on the endoskeleton, so I will remedy that in a later upload. I just wanted to mention it. If you've already downloaded the folder and don't want to download it again, you can just save the pictures from the Thingiverse uploads - they should be numbered.

Still working on the eye. Still unsure what the inside should really look like. But the outside is done. I could just do a simple version with a straight hole going through it and upload that and then keep tinkering with a version based on all the findings I've made regarding how it potentially looks on the inside.

Still working on the foot models. I need to fix the second toe and then all the raised screws, as the T1 appears to be Allen head screws, with the other part similar to what I've sculpted, just a little smaller, so probably won't take long to do. T2 seems to have the version I sculpted, but also a tad bit smaller than the ones on the LFS kit.

There are some more bits and pieces from the LFS kit that are quite simple, so I'll probably try to 3D model those as well.

But today... I'll rest some more. Still not 100% yet.

 

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Will try and get back to working on the foot models this weekend. May also try getting the 3D printer calibrated to printing in the best quality... we'll see. Still feel tired as hell, but otherwise feel better.

Found a few more parts in my endo kit pile I can 3D model. It appears I have completely missed some parts that are part of the big torso/pelvis pistons, so I'll model that and see how it compares to the model I already did of that piece, but did it without actual measurements previously - so this should make that more accurate. I'll check if there are more pieces. There are the metal rods for the pistons... I can definitely post the measurements for those different lengths soon.

 

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Worked a little on the T1 style screws and realized that the hex screws are only on the big toe - still tweaking the look. The rest are similar to the LFS kit, just a tad bit smaller. T2 seems to be the same as the T1, so that will make things easier, so I'll rescale everything and try to finish the last few toe pistons.

 

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Fixed the other screws and the opposite end caps. Have noticed in many SWS shots that the Big toe fork piece is also angled instead of going straight out. Just not angled as much as the other toes, but I'll try and incorporate that into the model. Doing that and then fixing the end of the top pistons on toe 1 and 2 is about all I need to do now.

EDIT: Don't mind the missing pins on the bottom of toe 4. Forgot to load them when loading everything and snapping the pictures. They are done. I just don't want to redo the image as I need to go make dinner.

 

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Finally found reference for a Hex Allen Head screw that matches what I saw in the reference, so now I can model it more properly. I couldn't quite make out what I was seeing and thought it might be another type of hex screw with the angled sides on the outside and then a small round dip in the center of the tip, as I couldn't find any Allen Head screws with the taper the same way as in the reference. Though... as mentioned, I finally found one. I guess they are a rare kind, or they are just called something different than what I was searching for... but there are some differences to how I sculpted mine... so I'll work those into the sculpt.

I'll try and work on these next week, as I'm sadly preoccupied with other things for the rest of the week.

 

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Doing what I always do: looking at the reference. I found that the toes in the T1 pictures in post #101 are different from mine. There is an circumference change from the actual toe part, to the thin straight part that connects with the fork of the next piece. Also... even accounting for the angle of the pictures, it is clear that each subsequent toe is smaller than the one before it, but the forks they connect to doesn't change from what I have.

So... I will redo the toes.

And then I will have to check whether the same is seen on T2 feet.