T1 and T2 Endoskeleton Research Thread

[Too Much Garlic]

Though, to be honest, I wouldn't smooth it at all. The rough texture looks like cast metal. Similar to how the cast metal T1 lower arm and hand looks.

 

[Metalalien]

I could have used all those reference shots 14 years ago when I sculpted this...lol

 

[ghostman]

Careful with the smoothing. Try to stop before the grooves, so you don't smoothe them over.


I've been working on simplifying the toes. Got most of the second toe done today. Made a replacement part that makes it easier to fix the toes. Still a lot of work, though.

Don't worry.
I can partially undo it with a morph brush.
I'll go ahead and fix it after this anyway.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

2nd toe finished as much as the 1st toe, leaving only the top and the screws at that joint as separate pieces (not shown). Moving on to the 3rd toe.

 

[ssdesigner]

Looks like they used snake eyes tamper proof screws on those.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Yeah, someone earlier in the thread posted what they were, so I could find good reference for them.

3rd toe done. Taking a break.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

All 5 toes done for now. The very tip and the screws at the tip are still separate pieces, but the rest is fused. It reduced the model count by a great deal. Also managed to fix some errors in the models.

I'm surprised the last few toes went by fixing them so quick.

 

[ghostman]

HCG and Sideshow are superimposed.
Sideshow is smaller in width than HCG.
The lower jaw is also smaller in Sideshow.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Yeah, it is interesting how slim the Sideshow really is in comparison. I tried scanning my Sideshow T-700... and compared to my foam skull scan... it was insanely slim and undersized.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

While I'm working on things I thought I might as well slowly go through and making multi-view orthographic images of the scans.

(My kit only came with this 1 style, but it may just be how the LFS kit was decided to be made and the original may have had two separate sculpts... or, like the LFS kit... only one basic sculpt and then the way the toes were attached made them different.) On the T1 the main horisontal piece wasn't solid. It appears to be a cutout that was bent in on itself, so has a gap between the top and the bottom. It seems it was filled in on the T2 ones making that piece solid.

Ankle

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Leg - Lower - Ankle

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Just one more for today.

From what I've found there is only 1 sculpt for both shin pieces. The ones from my kit has the front top edge sanded, so please be aware of this when using this as reference. It is missing details in that area - the depression above the cross depression. With ghostman's permission I can do a similar reference image of his photogrammetry created 3D model as it has that area intact, or he could do it himself if he wanted.

Also be mindful that it may be difficult to determine if the warp seen in these parts are on the original production made pieces for the movies or happened later when things were molded and cast for various things, such as the LFS kits.

Leg - Lower

 

[joberg]

Looking good

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Thanks. I'll see if I can do at least 1 - 3 a day from now on.

 

[ghostman]

T1 foot

T2

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Cool. Thanks for posting those. The first endoskeleton in T2 is said to have T1 legs, so that could just be a T1 style foot. They definitely put something in between the two plates on the T2 one. But nevertheless... look how broken that foot looks. Looks like they broke it in the first take.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

The daily dose.

Knees - L and R

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Leg - Upper

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Uncertain whether this warpage is on the production made endoskeleton. And I didn't remove the flashing from the casting process before scanning.

Pelvis

 

[joberg]

Good stuff all around