Superman: Legacy

[Prop Collector]

I saw Superman after hearing good things and I thought it was awful and, frankly, incredibly stupid. The last movie I saw in a theater was this year's Mission: Impossible and I thought it was awful and stupid. Before that, Gladiator II, which was also awful and stupid. I feel like I've completely outgrown the action movie genre, but specifically, the action movies they're making today. Everything seems exceptionally bloated and needlessly weird and unnecessarily contemporary, whereas my favorite movies (e.g., Star Wars IV-VI) are timeless and wonderfully simple. I'm not trying to be a grump or a hater, but I sit in the theater in disbelief that people find this drivel entertaining and I ask myself how Superman, which has been getting a lot of praise, is particularly different from The Flash, which was critically excoriated. They feel the same to me. It all feels the same to me. I'm in my late 30s so I shouldn't feel this disconnected from the zeitgeist, right?

 

[batguy]

I saw Superman after hearing good things and I thought it was awful and, frankly, incredibly stupid. The last movie I saw in a theater was this year's Mission: Impossible and I thought it was awful and stupid. Before that, Gladiator II, which was also awful and stupid. I feel like I've completely outgrown the action movie genre, but specifically, the action movies they're making today. Everything seems exceptionally bloated and needlessly weird and unnecessarily contemporary, whereas my favorite movies (e.g., Star Wars I-IV) are timeless and wonderfully simple. I'm not trying to be a grump or a hater, but I sit in the theater in disbelief that people find this drivel entertaining and I ask myself how Superman, which has been getting a lot of praise, is particularly different from The Flash, which was critically excoriated. They feel the same to me. It all feels the same to me. I'm in my late 30s so I shouldn't feel this disconnected from the zeitgeist, right?

That's how I felt when the 'Transformers' movies were big in the 2000s. I loved the toys back in the day so I wanted to like the movies. But they were barely watchable IMO. My friends thought the second one sucked. But I was going "Did you guys see the same first one that I did? How was that any better?"

In the case of 'Gladiator 2' and 'Mission' I think the disappointment was pretty widespread this year.

'The Flash' had a PR problem in addition to being weak. The star actor kept hitting the news for being a d-bag.

 

[Sundowner]

I watched it today and I enjoyed it. But I enjoy Gunn's movies. I love the "Justice Gang" and Nathan was spot on for Guy.

 

[Cephus]

That's how I felt when the 'Transformers' movies were big in the 2000s. I loved the toys back in the day so I wanted to like the movies. But they were barely watchable IMO. My friends thought the second one sucked. But I was going "Did you guys see the same first one that I did? How was that any better?"

In the case of 'Gladiator 2' and 'Mission' I think the disappointment was pretty widespread this year.

'The Flash' had a PR problem in addition to being weak. The star actor kept hitting the news for being a d-bag.

The first one was tolerable, the rest were crap up until Bumblebee, which I wasn't as impressed with as a lot of people. I actually liked Transformers One, but mostly, give me the original 80s cartoons.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

The first one was tolerable, the rest were crap up until Bumblebee, which I wasn't as impressed with as a lot of people. I actually liked Transformers One, but mostly, give me the original 80s cartoons.

I like the Transformers movie where Sam is killed and goes to “Robot Heaven” but is sent back to live again because “…he is a good boy who has always been a friend to the robot people”….

Chef’s kiss perfection.

 

[dascoyne]

I am still trying to digest what I watched. I haven't read anybody else's comments so forgive me if it's been said before.

I guess I was expecting more of an origin film so we can reestablish this character's identity. I have to accept that we can't just bring back Donner's version. It would have been nice to have Clark and Lois courting again. But, now that I think about it, their courtship has probably been done to death so maybe it is a good thing we bypassed it.

Superman's respect for life is supposed to be a reflection of his moral integrity (i.e. a man with immense power who chooses to protect life), but in this movie this Superman's respect for life just comically sophomoric. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

From the start we establish there's a hostile and formidable metahuman on the loose out to kill (?) superman. It felt odd that Clark can just take a break to hang out with Lois for an ethical discussion and breakfast.

Lex calling out fighting moves verbally just seems so inefficient. I thought the same thing in Real Steel where we have this bot that takes verbal orders. IRL by the time you shout "uppercut" someone can stick in some stiff jabs and step off line.

Eve Teschmacher was set up as such an obvious plot device because she really had nothing to contribute until she turned on Lex. She was just irritating to watch. At least Valerie Perrine's Teschmacher served a comic purpose and was the "straight man" for Hackman/Luthor's remarks.

So there's this "Dark Dimension" where Lex keeps all these people. Do they get meals? Do they just poop in their cells?

I felt kinda uneasy with the alien baby being tossed around like a football.

Public opinion was just too easily and quickly swayed, like 180 degrees on a dime. At least make him divisive. Raimi Spider-man did it right. Some folks listened to the anti-Spidey propaganda but others still had faith in him.

When Superman is rescued they could have taken him anywhere on Earth to recover. Why take him to the side that is at night? Look at all the hours wasted.

I feel like they could have developed Clark's parents a little better. I don't know if they were underwritten or just poorly cast. It shouldn't be the father asking Lois if Clark was going to be OK. It would have shown more of his bond if the dad had to reassure Lois instead. By all counts he ought to know his son better than Lois does. Had they developed the parents more, I think the family montage at the end would have been much more effective. I've come to expect to get the feels in a Gunn movie and I didn't get that here. Did someone edit out all the character development?

I liked Krypto. I didn't have a problem with Supergirl and she was a nice counter to contrast to her "square" cousin.

I want to like this film. I'll have to watch it again. Maybe my expectations (about Gunn and about Superman) threw me off, and I missed out on the actual tone of the film.