superhero costume forum ?
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It's funny that you make reference to them because I was going to make a point about them too.
Under the standards proposed here, GPW would not be eligible based on their height. Yet have no doubt that people would list their group as one of the best DC costuming groups out there.
And a note about Charity. Many of us do the Star Wars charity work. We have also wanted to expand that to Super Heroes, but you will find it a major challenge to assemble a group of local super heroes for a charity visit. Star Wars is not an issue, due to the many character options and following. But just try to put together 10 Superheroes for a local visit, much less get them to match your standards. Not saying that standards aren't a good thing, just saying that sometimes practicality will have to take over.
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XWFalcon
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See, that's what I was wondering about the charity and public appearances. Not a whole lot of Marvel and DC characters, among other company characters, aren't always instantly recognizable. Besides the obvious Superman's, Batman's, Spider-man's, etc. from the movies, not a lot of people who work hard on their costumes won't be recognized anywhere save for conventions. Not that that's a whole big deal, just something I thought about.
And as for not excluding anyone...isn't that what you're doing by only allowing the people in by the standards you set? I'm assuming you mean you'll allow them to post on your board, but only if they continue to work on their apparel. I'm not too familiar with how the 501's and Rebel Legion are run, but that's the idea I'm getting. Am I mistaken?
Once their costume meets your standard, then they will be spotlighted on your website? They will be sponsored by your organization? I'm questioning because I just want to understand what the whole goal is here.
And as for not excluding anyone...isn't that what you're doing by only allowing the people in by the standards you set? I'm assuming you mean you'll allow them to post on your board, but only if they continue to work on their apparel. I'm not too familiar with how the 501's and Rebel Legion are run, but that's the idea I'm getting. Am I mistaken?
Once their costume meets your standard, then they will be spotlighted on your website? They will be sponsored by your organization? I'm questioning because I just want to understand what the whole goal is here.
loganallenwolf
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The 501st exists because Lucasfilm has turned a blind eye on cracking down on the unlicensed costumes.
However, Marvel and DC are both very quick with the Cease-And-Desist orders, so that may pose a major challenge as well.
However, Marvel and DC are both very quick with the Cease-And-Desist orders, so that may pose a major challenge as well.
Harmonic_Distortion
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TMP and this whole idea are ridiculous. It's simply a manuever for ownership and control of something. In a word, ego.
First, this standards business.
When you say "we want to have standards" that doesn't sound bad on it's face. We've all seen a blubbery Superman and thought, "wow, he really shouldn't be wearing that." But TMP and clicque have some arbitrary, made-up-on-the-fly set of personal criteria that are subject to his whimsy. That's just dictatorship. I guarantee there wont be a community making standard decisions, but TMP will just tell someone "like it or lump it."
Second, the need for another Superhero Forum.
This is, from the outset, dubious. I could see if someone wanted to do this because they thought LoH was a bit family-friendly (not bad in my view, but ok) and wanted a place to curse and speak totally freely. But seeing that TMP is really just wanting a place where he can set his own rules and treat people with impunity, is that really something that requires a new forum? The LoH is run quite well, there's a wealth of help and knowledge, as well as a great atmosphere. Are we forgetting also the costuming forum here?
Third, "uhm yeah, we're going to be about charity.
So, yeah this is kind of tacked on somewhere in the middle of this thread to deflect criticism. TMP's been at the LoH and already knows there's a charitable group going ...and doing a FINE job at that. "So what? What's wrong with MORE charity?" Nothing, but why not just contribute to the group that's already going instead of having to slap your name on it for press. (That always did irk me about celebrities...just donate money, dont start the Bratt Pitt Charity for Wayward Puppies")
Ok. I've said my peace.
First, this standards business.
When you say "we want to have standards" that doesn't sound bad on it's face. We've all seen a blubbery Superman and thought, "wow, he really shouldn't be wearing that." But TMP and clicque have some arbitrary, made-up-on-the-fly set of personal criteria that are subject to his whimsy. That's just dictatorship. I guarantee there wont be a community making standard decisions, but TMP will just tell someone "like it or lump it."
Second, the need for another Superhero Forum.
This is, from the outset, dubious. I could see if someone wanted to do this because they thought LoH was a bit family-friendly (not bad in my view, but ok) and wanted a place to curse and speak totally freely. But seeing that TMP is really just wanting a place where he can set his own rules and treat people with impunity, is that really something that requires a new forum? The LoH is run quite well, there's a wealth of help and knowledge, as well as a great atmosphere. Are we forgetting also the costuming forum here?
Third, "uhm yeah, we're going to be about charity.
So, yeah this is kind of tacked on somewhere in the middle of this thread to deflect criticism. TMP's been at the LoH and already knows there's a charitable group going ...and doing a FINE job at that. "So what? What's wrong with MORE charity?" Nothing, but why not just contribute to the group that's already going instead of having to slap your name on it for press. (That always did irk me about celebrities...just donate money, dont start the Bratt Pitt Charity for Wayward Puppies")
Ok. I've said my peace.
rollerboi
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Man. Not even off the ground and already there's people feeling threatened by it. The internet's a big place, you know. Plenty of room for everyone to play.
If he wants to start his own forum, more power to him. Nobody's forcing you to turn on your computer, log into his website, and submit to his capricious whims.
Why whine about it? You guys just come across like the type of people who were excluded from things as a child and haven't gotten over it yet. Don't be so quick to feel perceived slights; if you've got a damn fine costume, then you should be happy with it. Don't worry about whether someone's going to let you into their little club or not.
If you haven't got a good costume, shouldn't you be focusing all that energy elsewhere?
If he wants to start his own forum, more power to him. Nobody's forcing you to turn on your computer, log into his website, and submit to his capricious whims.
Why whine about it? You guys just come across like the type of people who were excluded from things as a child and haven't gotten over it yet. Don't be so quick to feel perceived slights; if you've got a damn fine costume, then you should be happy with it. Don't worry about whether someone's going to let you into their little club or not.
If you haven't got a good costume, shouldn't you be focusing all that energy elsewhere?
Harmonic_Distortion
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Nice attempt to spin, but nah...not threatened in the least.
I think it's hillarious that someone who sells armor at 4K a pop while refusing to give tracking numbers on something so expensive thinks they can sit in judgment.
I love the "if you dont like it, dont be a part of it" argument. As usual it = phail. I call people on their bulls***. Especially their elitist bulls***. Especially elitist opportunism in the name of charity.
Remember, the same freedom of speech you're espousing for him applies to me.
There's no way to stop him from having a forum. Not that I'd try that anyway. But I can voice my opinion. God you've got to love the internet.
I think it's hillarious that someone who sells armor at 4K a pop while refusing to give tracking numbers on something so expensive thinks they can sit in judgment.
I love the "if you dont like it, dont be a part of it" argument. As usual it = phail. I call people on their bulls***. Especially their elitist bulls***. Especially elitist opportunism in the name of charity.
Remember, the same freedom of speech you're espousing for him applies to me.
There's no way to stop him from having a forum. Not that I'd try that anyway. But I can voice my opinion. God you've got to love the internet.
Onigiri
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well its apparent that you have an axe to grind...and a bitter one fro teh sounds of it. When I started my KLINGON group back in 95 WITH THE SAME STANDARDS as TMP is mentioning it and now 15 years of charity work to show for it...well, there were bitter naysayers and we proved them all wrong...it wasnt ego...the club I started still exists and Im not even part of it anymore.
right now youre just a low post count newb bordering on trolling.
Thats MY opinion.
right now youre just a low post count newb bordering on trolling.
Thats MY opinion.
Harmonic_Distortion
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Trolling, eh? Well you're welcome to think that.
An axe to grind? Perhaps slightly. (See that was an attempt at a reasoned discussion which I expect to be ignored, but so be it.) Perhaps you haven't been to the LoH and read the elitism, read the condescention and experienced his flying off the handle and attacking good people, helpful people in long posts. I have. Logan and the other mods at LoH don't need defending because they're rolling along fine without TMP and they can defend themselves if it was needed. I'm simply calling someone on their attitude. On their insults and elitism.
I think it's great that you've done good work with your Klingon group. But I think you're ignoring that the charity stuff is a tack-on to get some sort of credibility. Which kind of cheapens what you've done if your group and his group are equals. It might be hard to catch that as this behavior has happened in various places over a period of time. Hell, I'd have a hard time "proving" it (I have neither the time or the inclination to do so) if I was asked to.
Again, just my opinion.
An axe to grind? Perhaps slightly. (See that was an attempt at a reasoned discussion which I expect to be ignored, but so be it.) Perhaps you haven't been to the LoH and read the elitism, read the condescention and experienced his flying off the handle and attacking good people, helpful people in long posts. I have. Logan and the other mods at LoH don't need defending because they're rolling along fine without TMP and they can defend themselves if it was needed. I'm simply calling someone on their attitude. On their insults and elitism.
I think it's great that you've done good work with your Klingon group. But I think you're ignoring that the charity stuff is a tack-on to get some sort of credibility. Which kind of cheapens what you've done if your group and his group are equals. It might be hard to catch that as this behavior has happened in various places over a period of time. Hell, I'd have a hard time "proving" it (I have neither the time or the inclination to do so) if I was asked to.
Again, just my opinion.
TMP
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I dont rack down on other forums here. I accept them.
But to this date there is no group structured with memberslist and so on.
A more orgonized group of dedicated people to show a credible suit and share their costumes of high standard.
I find this strange.... In this forum most of us are after good quality replicas. I thought that counted for all of us. To aim high is not wrong.
Relax I dont look down on the members.
But i dont feel welcome on the LOH due to some few people, I personally think its to much Trolling and sarcasem overall.
I also think the quality vary to much. But i am not trolly or mean to anyone. In those post have made "critic" it has been with constructive ideas and reffrence.
Just a note. Allot of people from other forums wish this most welcome. And i also se that some feel threaten for some weird reason...
But to this date there is no group structured with memberslist and so on.
A more orgonized group of dedicated people to show a credible suit and share their costumes of high standard.
I find this strange.... In this forum most of us are after good quality replicas. I thought that counted for all of us. To aim high is not wrong.
Relax I dont look down on the members.
But i dont feel welcome on the LOH due to some few people, I personally think its to much Trolling and sarcasem overall.
I also think the quality vary to much. But i am not trolly or mean to anyone. In those post have made "critic" it has been with constructive ideas and reffrence.
Just a note. Allot of people from other forums wish this most welcome. And i also se that some feel threaten for some weird reason...
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KnightAsylum
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I do think that as well. Sad behavior:thumbsdown
Yet another to add to my ignore list.:cheers
TMP
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Tell me are you StanLee from LOH?
What has the TMP armor to do with this topic anyway. Also your claiming that i am refuseing to give tracking numbers? What is that all about?
We have provided tracking numbers to everyone. And people get their armors and peices.
Also what does our armor have to do with this topic as a Superhero forum.
I ask you kindly to please lay off. You chose to come to this forum.
For what reason? Looking for low quality props and replicas? I hope not because the members here strive for high quality props and replicas. So what is all this complaining about setting a high standard. Why are you here if thats a problem?
Once again. Unless you got some constuctive ideas i kindly ask you to not post in this topic. I cant stand destructive or post that has nothing to do withe the topic. It only messes it up and brings it out of focus. Post like this does not contribute in the general intrest. If you got something to say to me then drop me a PM or call me if you want to vent your personal frustration.
The Manlet
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Charity was not just tacked on it was the main focus. When TMP first told me of his idea of a super hero forum. He asked me if there was any groups doing charity? The only one that I knew of was the "hero alliance" because I was a member of the LOH. The H.A dose great work but isn't well known. TMP wanted to start something on the level of the 501st for Superheroes. I fully support his fourm If I am accepted to become a member or not. It's about time there was a top level super hero group. There isn't a lot of respect for super hero costumers....
I rest my case.
Some people even call hero costumers "Cossplayers" And I recall a few LOH member having there own "Elistist" statements to that veiw ironic... Honestly I don't see why there is such a big fuss over TMP's new fourm. There are a few fourms i couldn't be a member of I wont name, names but I let it go life is to short. Here are two great quotes from Paul McCarthy that come to mind. "Live & let Die" or "let it be":angel
DAVIDYR1
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I wasnt going to comment but this statement holds true and I agree with it 100%.
TMP...John,
Personally I love your idea for a new forum. It may or may not be of interest to me personally, or I may not even meet your recommendations...but I respect what you are trying to do. I see no reason for some to constantly read between the lines of your threads and for some to try and pick out things that dont exist.
I also know you mean well when you post but unfortunately not everyone is going to see you through the same eyes as I do. I've known you for several years and can vouch for you as a person and quite frankly I dont believe you deserve some of the negativity shown. Also, there's a language barrier as English is not your first language and I know for a fact you struggle when typing it out. As a result, sometimes you CAN come off cold and to the point...but you usually state that you're trying to get better with the language but some just dont get it. Trust me, it doesnt matter. Do your thing, and those who want to live the challenge with you will give this a try...and those who dont (like me) have plenty of other places to play on the net...and have no reason to bash your for your efforts.
I've always believed that the world is made up of leaders and followers...we all choose by our own actions where we ultimately wind up.
So....stick to your gunns...you have a great idea and if it means raising the bar in the costuming world then you have my full support. Just because I wont be able to contribute because my physique doesnt match my character of choice doesnt change the fact for one moment that you are looking to do something different...and different isnt always bad...actually...
...not to mention the charity work you're planning.:thumbsup
Just keep on parading...let others be the rain....you just wipe if off of you when it's over anyhow...then the rain is gone.
In other words...dont let anyone Rain on YOUR Parade....just incase there was a language barrier there....
angelDavid
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Harmonic_Distortion
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You kindly ask? That's pretty funny considering how you treated GreenArrow over on LoH. Over on LoH people tried to "kindly ask" you a few things and you flew off the handle.
It's amazing that you get your ass kissed as much as you do. People are vouching for you as a good guy, but all I see is the elitist way you pass judgment on how the existing forum boards aren't up to your standards.
Any way you want to spin things, you're being a jerk. Plain and simple. My posts do contribute to the general interest. They offer a different point of view of your attitude...one that's needed if people are going to just assume you're a nice guy and let you pass.
As far as the tracking numbers go...I could quote a post from the LoH where someone calls you out on how you wouldnt give a tracking number even when asked. Is that really what you want me to do? To rehash a whole scenario where you were suuuuuper shady and expose bad business practices?
Some people see you as raising the quality of costuming. They're entitled to that opinion. But let's go on record and let you know that other people see you for you really are. You're someone who has an arbitrary idea of what passes for good and for those that don't you want to sit in judgment. NOT ONLY do you sit in judgment on their costumes, but you think your world view of the way people behave is better than other people's.
I'm not trying to bash the innocent ideas of a swell guy just trying to honestly do his own thing. I'm letting a rude, elitist guy know that some of us see you for who you really are.
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TMP
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Can you confirm your StanLeewannabe at the LOH?
Alteast be the man enought to identify your self. :ninja
As for a tracking number. Every armor shipped out has been recived. Those who are not shipped out can not be provided a tracking number.
I really dont know who you are reffering to.
If he has an problem then i am sure he have contactet me and gotten it resolved.
Seriously now i think your mixing allot of cards here.
Dont se the conections your drawing to this Superhero Forum topic.
Your calling me names and making remarks about my person. :confused
You clealry have personal issuess with me. I ask you one more time to lay of or please leave this topic. You contribute NOTHING. Your throwing the continues negativity, sarcasem i tried to point out in the LOH made by some few people. Now you guys follow me on this board and continue the off topic and sarcastic trolling remarks.
There is a big difference in asking a normal question. It does not have to contain sarcastic, or undelaying tones of beening mean when asked. The one recived on the LOH was not normal questions. They were with sarcastic tones. Might not be much but when it continues from the same source of people over time then water will float over the cup.
Those are the questions i felt i have got lately on the LOH from few people. ( In generall the LOH is with allot of good people )
SUPERHERO WEBSITE & FORUM.
I am not looking down on forums or have anything negative to say about them.
I se potential i wish to develop because i se things that can be improved.
I want to put more orgonized possibilites based on my experience working with the 501st legion on a very active level.
I want to narrow the costume standard and not to have a wide specter of costume standards.
I also want this group to be a group of people dedicated to make the costume as most credible as possible.
Those who wish to be appart of this can as well be members of other groups.
Were have i said i look down on people? I said i personally belive there is more to a superhero than just plan printed spandex.
I belive that a superhero costumes consist of texture, layers and proportionally buildt / addapted to the wearer.
You dont ask at all in this topic.
You charge forward with peronal attacks nothing to do with topic is self.
BTW... This reminds me...
Your planning to build a 8 feet Hulk... WHY? If your so against what i am trying to do... Why 8 feet.
If your 5.10 tall why dont you make your hulk in that size proportionally built to you?
Why do you work so hard to make a costume credible in size and standard if your so against my proposal.
If you belive what your saying, then why donty you grab a purple underpant and spray your self green.
Or why not buy the rubies costume.
Stay away from the topic unless you got something to contribut with and please stop this slamming!
Alteast be the man enought to identify your self. :ninja
As for a tracking number. Every armor shipped out has been recived. Those who are not shipped out can not be provided a tracking number.
I really dont know who you are reffering to.
If he has an problem then i am sure he have contactet me and gotten it resolved.
Seriously now i think your mixing allot of cards here.
Dont se the conections your drawing to this Superhero Forum topic.
Your calling me names and making remarks about my person. :confused
You clealry have personal issuess with me. I ask you one more time to lay of or please leave this topic. You contribute NOTHING. Your throwing the continues negativity, sarcasem i tried to point out in the LOH made by some few people. Now you guys follow me on this board and continue the off topic and sarcastic trolling remarks.
There is a big difference in asking a normal question. It does not have to contain sarcastic, or undelaying tones of beening mean when asked. The one recived on the LOH was not normal questions. They were with sarcastic tones. Might not be much but when it continues from the same source of people over time then water will float over the cup.
Those are the questions i felt i have got lately on the LOH from few people. ( In generall the LOH is with allot of good people )
SUPERHERO WEBSITE & FORUM.
I am not looking down on forums or have anything negative to say about them.
I se potential i wish to develop because i se things that can be improved.
I want to put more orgonized possibilites based on my experience working with the 501st legion on a very active level.
I want to narrow the costume standard and not to have a wide specter of costume standards.
I also want this group to be a group of people dedicated to make the costume as most credible as possible.
Those who wish to be appart of this can as well be members of other groups.
Were have i said i look down on people? I said i personally belive there is more to a superhero than just plan printed spandex.
I belive that a superhero costumes consist of texture, layers and proportionally buildt / addapted to the wearer.
You dont ask at all in this topic.
You charge forward with peronal attacks nothing to do with topic is self.
BTW... This reminds me...
Your planning to build a 8 feet Hulk... WHY? If your so against what i am trying to do... Why 8 feet.
If your 5.10 tall why dont you make your hulk in that size proportionally built to you?
Why do you work so hard to make a costume credible in size and standard if your so against my proposal.
If you belive what your saying, then why donty you grab a purple underpant and spray your self green.
Or why not buy the rubies costume.
Stay away from the topic unless you got something to contribut with and please stop this slamming!
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