Super-detailing the MPC Falcon

Discussion in 'General Modeling' started by Jedi Dade, Dec 3, 2001.

  1. Jedi Dade

    Jedi Dade Sr Member

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    I'm hoping to pick up a digital camera for Christmas this year and am anxious to show the progress I've made on my falcon. How have the rest of you guys been doing?...plus I wanted to bump this thread [​IMG]
     
  2. 12Rogues

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    Hi guys,

    Here's another deal I found on the net for accurizing the falcon....

    http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/Forum6/HTML/005081.html

    Dade,

    I haven't worked on the falcon for some time now, but will be starting up again in the near future. I have been laying out plans for a more accurate c'pit on CAD using a picture of the full size stage set blueprint i found on the net. So far so good i guess.

    Happy building!

    Brian
     
  3. Jedi Dade

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    If you're dead set on lightsheet I'd recomend the wite and add the clear blue "plasma leakage" yourself with paint. I've seen both and I really think the mini-florescent bulbs are the way to go. VERY bright!!!! Lightsheet is probably easier though and does look really good- especially when photographed. I don't know exactly what it is about lightsheet but in pictures it is bright as all He11. In person its good but not nearly as impressive as the flos [​IMG]

    In my opinion. Thanks for the info though. It may make a super lighting system for the cockpit though, and I may look into that.

    Jedi Dade
     
  4. Jedi Dade

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    I was wondering if anybody but me ordered the photo etched grills for the Falcon? If you did, have you received them yet? I'm asking because I ordered them and haven't gotten them yet and was wondering...

    Jedi Dade
     
  5. JPolacchi

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    Hey everyone,just a general question on this subject.I did'nt really know there was much of a forum for the MPC,or ERTL kits,but I stand corrected.Anyways,I was wondering if the photo etch set for the MPC Falcon kit was still available for purchase from the fella who made them,or did I more or less miss the boat on that?Also,concerning studio modeling...was the screen material that was used for the wing panels on the tie fighters from star wars,was it also used for the detailing of the circular solar panels on the 32" Falcon,or was it exclusively used for the 5ft Falcon&Tie Fighters from Star Wars?If anyone could answer this,I'd much appreciate it,thanks-John
     
  6. Jedi Dade

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    I don't know if the PE set is available or not. I've sent a couple of e-mails to the guy and haven't gotten any response. I don't know the guy and I really hope that he doesn't turn out to be a flake - I ordered 4 sets from him.

    here is his e-mail: MMI@Coldnorth.com
    You want to put into the topic the following: I want MMI-7777

    Thant way he'll know what the e-mail is about. If you get a hold of him tell him to give me an update will ya [​IMG]

    Jedi Dade
     
  7. JPolacchi

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    I'll give it a whirl Dade...you did'nt send the $$$ to him did ya?I hope he does'nt burn ya.I saw the art work/photo etch pictures on a starship modeler webpage,and they looked good...a nice touch to spice up a rather boring&dull rendition of the Falcon.I never liked the MPC/ERTL kit......it's messed up&requires heaps of extra work done to it.I began working on one years ago and began kitbashing with just what I had & few references...also redoing the edge/plate detail around the kit.I dont remember what happened to that kit...I think it got lost,or destroyed when moving....but the Falcon is relatively easy to get ahold of on ebay.I would'nt mind building a nice one,since now there are after market kits available to make it look far better,and these photo etch pieces...if this guy has them..will make the kit look far better.Anyways,I'll try e-mailing this guy,hopefully get some good feedback from it......hang in there& till next time-John
     
  8. JPolacchi

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    Hey Dade...I wrote that guy who made the MPC Falcon photo etch set,apparenly they are available and you can still get them,try writing him an finding out what happened to the 4 sets you ordered.I think I may be getting a couple...not sure yet,cause I have my sights set on scratch building me a 32" Falcon.I have most of the kits for kitbashing,just need to make some solid plans and get to work.However I would'nt mind hammering out a nice small scale kit,especially when the aftermarket parts are there and a really nice one can be made.I'm hoping the resin repalcement parts will become available again also.Anyway,getting back to the 32" Falcon....do you or anyone else know if that metal screen material thats used to detail the Star Wars Tie fighters(the wing pannels) was used for the solar panels on the 32" Falcon,or is that out of scale?I just need a little clarification.Till next time,thanks-John
     
  9. Jedi Dade

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    Yeah he finally got back to me too. I'm not a PE expert but I got the impression that he's almost ready to start pumping those out.

    Thanks,
    Jedi Dade
     
  10. JPolacchi

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    Cool Dade....I'm glad he got back to you.After getting an e-mail back from him..he did'nt stike me as someone who was gonna stiff ya.I've got school starting tommorrow evening,but have heaps more stuff to do before it starts.I've been talking to Tim this weekend,and his studio Slave I is looking spectacular!I'm really hoping to get some plans drawn up for a 32" studio Falcon project,and hoping to get some done for the slaveI as well,than draw up prints for patterns&templates to be machined on the CNC mill in class.I wish I hade more visual references of the two ships...but I dont know where to find any,or anyone who may have some.There are still some parts on the SlaveI I cant identify,and its making me crazy from starring at the Chronical pictures,also a few stragglers for the Falcon as well.I may,or may not get the pe parts....I'd like some,but I already have a ton of $$ invested in kits for these studio projects,and the MPC kit would be a distraction I think..amongst everything else.Anyway...good luck with everything&dont be a stranger to the board.I'm always open for helping if I can&for absorbing more inforation concerning studio projects.Till next time-John
     
  11. SpookyDesigns

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    Hey guys...

    How long did it take you to get a response back from the photo-etch guy?

    Does anyone have the kit yet? Is it nice?
     
  12. JPolacchi

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    1 day for me
     
  13. SpookyDesigns

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    1 day??!! *...it's been a week and I still haven't heard from that guy.

    Did you ever get the kit? If so..How is it?

    I'm also looking for that Falcon Kits guy...but I fear that he is long gone.

    He should sell his masters to someone. Hell...I'd buy them and produce the kits!
     
  14. JPolacchi

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    Yeah..it was about 1 day.I have'nt bought the photo etch kit,I've seen pictures and they looked pretty good.I am trying to draw plans up for some studio model projects,and drawing the blueprints was much harder than I thought..even for ships like the Falcon.There are lots of picture references,and Im having a hell of a time doing it.I wish I could get help,but help is few&far between.The upgrade kit for the mpc Falcon is M.I.A. Ive heard that he stopped making them,but will start again,then Ive heard he's not going to make them anymore.So,I don't know whats going on with that...I say make up yur own upgrade...thats how he did it,so...ya gotta start somewhere,right?You can kit bash a little,but I think many parts would have to be completely scratch built as there would'nt be enough or the right scale parts.I bought a 1/12 Tamiya 935 porsche on ebay,but Im not sure if it's the right scale for the MPC Falcon...guess I'll find out.I thought it would be a cool kit to build,and also get some nice parts from it for bashing and to cast parts from.Anyway,good luck..and keep e-mailing the guy...I'm assuming you have the correct e-mail address,yes?
     
  15. Jedi Dade

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    well I've just gottan another e-mail form the guy. He's having a problem with the operator of the photo-etch equipment. Apparently the opeator knows he's the only guy that can run the thing and is holding the company ransom by charging 3X what he origianlly quoted them. Obviously that has had an effect on the profitability of the endeavor for the company offering the kits. The e-mail said that the order wouldbe filled eventually but it doesn't look like it will be any time soon, and I doubt he's taking any more orders until he gets the situation straightened out.

    Litte bit of bad news...

    Jedi Dade


    Well, I just received another e-mail from the guy... pretty good timing. He states the the PE problem has been fixed, and that I will receive my order around March 15th, at lest that's when he plans to have all of the current PE faclon sets currently on order out the door. he has also given be credit equalt to the amount of my original order for the problems.. seems very reasonable to me [​IMG] I'll definitely post when I get the kit and let you know what I think [​IMG]
     
  16. SpookyDesigns

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    I connected with the guy doing the photo-etched grills on another board. He tells me that they have moved their production facilities...and that's the reason for the delay.

    He also says that the kit will also include resin inserts for behind the grills.

    Just FYI...
     
  17. Chuckles

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    <posting a reply so my account doesn't get deleted>

    Actually, I've been convinced to accuraze and superdetail the MPC Falcon. I will probably start a new thread about it, and try and get some of you involved as well. Basically to just share information about what kits to buy to kitbash from. So far I hgave spent about $100 on kits, and only 2 parts I know fpor sure I will put on the falcon. I will post this info - what kit to get and what part goes where - in the hope that others will do the same, so we can all get info from others about what kits to get, or what kits NOT to get.

    Hopefully I'll start that new thread soon, I just got a lot on at the moment.
     
  18. Treadwell

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    Why start a new thread? Sounds like your contributions will fit right into the intent of this thread, and will be quite welcome.
     
  19. Jedi Dade

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    I agree with treadwell,... MPC Falcon accurization - this is the place [​IMG] I guess accurization is the wrong word since the entire thing is out of scale to the original, but interstingly enough its almost 1/2 scale to the original [​IMG] . Seriiouslt though I've been doing something similar, trying to find the kits of the same subject as the bigger falcons in smaller scales to steal the "greeblies" from [​IMG] I'm trying to redo the entire engine wedge. I molde and cast the wedge then sanded off all of the "detail" so that I could replace it with something better. If it turns out well I'll try to mold the finished wedge, but that's a LONG way off I'm afraid. Anything you find would be useful... So far I haven't been real successful trying to get "identical" smaller scale matches, but you can find things that are close... and I guess that's sa good as we can realistically hope for trying to recreate an almost impossible scrounge job in 1/2 the scale when we don't even know if kits were made of those subjects in that scale, of course some of them are probably easier as well - there are a ton of 1/72 scale tank kits [​IMG]

    Jedi Dade
     
  20. Chuckles

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    Ok. By superdetailing, I mean adding better looking greeblies. By accurizing, I mean altering the dimensions and proportions of the falcon to make it like the studio model. I plan to do both. I also plan to light the * thing! Hope I have the patience to do it all [​IMG].
    I think we are all in agreeance that the ERTL falcon kit was a copy of the falcon from ANH. I want to make mine like the falcon from ESB. This pretty much means discarding the sidewalls and making new ones. I'm more than happy to share the info about what kits to buy, if others do too. I can give you a tip right now. Somewhere on these forums, I seem to remember somebody saying that 1/12 scale F1 racing cars were used all over the 32" studio model. So I went out and bought $65 worth of 1/24 scale f1 racing car kits, hoping that the smaller scale would work on the ERTL Falcon. seems that ILM used 1/12 scale F1 racing cars on the FIVE FOOT MODEL, thus using 1/24 scale f1 racing car kits on the 32" model. BOLLOCKS!! And no-one makes 1/48 scale model F1 racers. So the lesson for the day is don't buy 1/24 scale F1 kits for your ERTL falcon.
    I'm having a tough time trying to identify the greeblies on the sidewalls. I need better reference photos. I don't have the Chronicles book, it's very hard to get it here in Australia. If anyone could be kind enough to send me just some clear images of the sidewalls, I'd be very grateful - arrmaties@hotmail.com . If this clearly breaches copyright, then I suppose you'd better no send it, but I'm not sure.
    Jedi Dade? If you have any reccomended kitbashing kits for the engine wedge, I'd love to hear some.
    At the moment, All I can suggest to you for sure is the "Airfix 1/72 Matilda tank" which has some detail for the front sidewall (not cockpit side). Unfortunately without better reference pics, it's hard to tell if I have some other parts, but just haven't been able to confirm them. By the way - this part requires you to resize the sidewalls of the falcon. I'm not sure if you plan to do that or not.
    good luck.
     
  21. Chuckles

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    uhh...Jedi Dade, sorry:) I've just read through all the posts - seems like you are a long way through the project already. Now I know your plans more or less. Oh well, I'm sure we can still share info.
     
  22. JPolacchi

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    Hey Chuckles..I admire your enthusiasim with modifying the MPC Falcon.....it will be tough to find the right kit parts to do it,cause there are'nt many donor kits you can buy parts for the right scale.I guess it depends on the company..I've never seen a 1/24 scale Tamiya kit...so its hard to say how many parts they incorporated in them.You might have to sacrifice and go with 1/20.....fudge things a little.I think with a project such as this...because its a smaller,odd scale than the studio models some "artistic freedom" will work beautifully.Its just that with a couple 1/24 scale F1 car kits I bought..believing they would have almost as many of the parts as the larger scale kits did..I'd have no problem.
    I bought a couple 1/24 Entex kits,and they skimped on alot of details.I think that is pretty standard with most commercial kit companies to cut costs on the injection molds.Less machine time&simplifying the kit to still make maximum profit.Also many of the military armor kits wont come in scales much smaller than 1/76 to my knowlege..at least thats the smallest i could ever find,and it's not small enough.The smaller the kit...the fewer parts&details.I think that you can buy some kits.....and thumb through the parts you want...buy close the the "correct scale" to use on the MPC kit.It would be a great exercise in kitbashing...and be much like what the model builders of ILM were faced with....buy kits,choose parts...and put on whatever looked good.Also....to get some things acurate....you'll be scratch building quite a bit.
    There are some aftermarket kits you can buy,and apparently the guy doing it will be in "full" production again by summer..least thats what i heard...and aonther fella is making photo etch grills for the MPC kit..he's in Canada somewhere.Maybe look in aftermarket military&race car kit producers.....those are popular subjects....and they usually make improovements and parts for that particular scale....I cant think of any off the top of my head.If you are short on resources.....a decent one to start with is From Star Wars to Indiana Jones,maybe try ordering the Chronicals through a book store in Oz..or even look for it on e-bay.There was a post either in here,or in the replica props forum of someone announcing the selling of The Chronicals book..I saw it not long ago.The english version is somewhere in the vacinity of $150 U.S..I bought the 1rst addition/printing that originallywas written in Japanese..and was much more costly..about $3-400......bloody hell!Well....I hope you have good luck with this project....your mind is in the right place.....have a nice day [​IMG] -John
     
  23. phase pistol

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    Hey John, it was me touting the $50 "Chronicles" books... the place is hamiltonbook.com.

    I've always wondered about that Japanese edition that Chronicles is based on.. is it exactly the same book with Japanese text, or are there significant differences between the Japanese and English versions?

    Just to keep things on topic, I hope the Falcon "accurizing" kits rerelease DOES come to pass, because I was just looking at my old Falcon and wondering if I should strip it, rebuild and repaint it...

    - Karl
     
  24. JPolacchi

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    The Japanese Chronicals & the English written Chronicals are identical in pages...the covers are different...the Jappanese one of course is written in Jappanese.....ummmm..what else?Oh.....there were very few of the Jappanese editions made..mine is numbered...I think they may have only made 10,000 copies..mine is 7,000 something 1rst edition run...they have a bit more value I think,thats what the guy told me when I bought it,it also cost much more....was somewhere around 3-$400.There were a few other things that came with the Jappanese edition....some small color pictures...but card size.....thats about it.I have both versions.....the english version cost me $150.......*...thats about it off the to of my head-John
     
  25. Chuckles

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    JPollachi - Are you sure about the 1/24 scale F1 kits? I got a few of them (1/24 and 1/20), and I could identify parts, but they looked as though they are the correct scale for the 32" falcon, and not the ERTL falcon. I got the 1/24 Ferrari 312T (not sure of the brand - looks japanese), The Tamiya 1/20 Ligier JS11 Ford F1, and the Tamiya 1/20 McLaren MP4/5B Honda. Which kits have you had luck with?
    Thanks for the info about the aftermarket kits for the falcon. I've actually heard about them a few times before, and it's my understanding that the size of the sidewall is the same as the ERTL falcon. If this is true, then they're not really much good to me. I hope, like a few others here, to accuraize the sidewall height. Also I think those aftermarket kits remake the falcon model from ANH, but I hope to remake the ESB falcon model (different sidewalls).
    You are very right about artistic license. I will no doubt have to do it some time. However it would be nice to get the most recognizable parts kitbashed.
    I do own "From star wars to indiana jones", but there is only one shot of the ESB 32" falcon, so I would still prefer the chronicles book. I may have a look around onm the net. Having no credit card doesn't help my cause much, but hopefully I can work something out somewhere.
    About those photoetched parts - I've actually found some tank wheels that are a perfect size for the two little circle grill thigies that are behind 3 of the big vents on the engine wedge. They look quite good, and the other squarish vents that are behind them shouldn't be hard to find elsewhere. These wheels are a lot more 3D than I believe the photoetched parts will be, so that helps as well (hope I don't make the photoetcher lose all his business). The kit to buy is the Fujimi Panzer.IV Ausf.J German Medium Tank 1/76.
    Good luck with it. Keep your progress posted on this thread, as I will.
    Chuckles.
     
  26. Jedi Dade

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    Falcon kits make excellent resin sidepanels for the MPCfalcon, and they are modeled after the ANH panels on the 5 footer. for ESB you'll need to make your own. For the engine wedge, there are several airfix jet airplane models in 1/72 scale that you can use the "missles" from for the 4 "vertical" plumbing that is is just below the grills. Looking at the pics of the ESB falcon that what it looks like was used to me (only a larger scale obviously). I ordered a set of PE grills from the guy mentioned above. So far I haven't gotten anything, but he was having some production problems and maybe that slowed things down a bit.

    Basically with a project like this you have to come to grips with the fact it will never be "right" and you've got to be able to settle for something that looks close and way better the the model you started with.

    If you are serious about lighting the model take a look at some of my posts ealier in this thread. I have a setup utilizing mini-florescent lights (12v dc) that looks fantastic. The total cost was around 50-60 dollars plus a little soldering. The result is bright enough to light a room [​IMG] I was alway slightly disappointed with all of the lighting of the falcon engines I've seen done. It was never bright enough for me. I wanted it to "look" like the movie. I think that this does. Check out the pics of Edrolfo's MPC falcon(theres a link up there somewhere) - he's the guy I stole the idea from, then I modified it slightly [​IMG] It really is nice and pretty easy.
     
  27. JPolacchi

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    Hey Chuckles,sorry about the confusion..I was referring to the fact that it would be almost impossible to find the correct scale kit parts to kitbash the MPC Falcon...but you are correct on the ILM 32" minature...I found that there are a couple 1/12 F1 kit parts used(inside the rear access pit on the top left hand side)some parts are a bit confusing....Im also thinking that perhaps the 1/24 Arifix Hawker Hurricane engine block half may have been used.There are many 1/20 F1 kit parts used all over the engine deck....to my knowledge..the F1 Williams was used...I also think the 1/20 P34 six wheeled Tyrrell was used,as well as a 1/20 Ferrari 312B,but I cant find one...and the M23 Yardley McLaren in both 1/12 & 1/20 might have been used to some extent.There are also countless 1/35 tank parts used as well.
    I usually have no luck i.ding parts till I have the actual kit in front of me...I also picked up a 1/20 & 1/12 JPS MKIII.....I think some parts from those kits were employed as well.There are so many kits bashed into the 32" Falcon it is mind boggling.If you are really into improving&modifying yur MPC kit in the Empire Strikes back vesion...off the top of my head....some of the tank kits can be found...cause there were many 1/35 tanks used on the 32" Falcon,other parts you will have to scratch,or fudge with something else.You might try to get yur hands on a Tamiya 1/20 935 Martini Porsche....the trannie might be the right size for the MPC kit...or try the 1/12 935 Porsche.....but its tough to say.Anyway,thats about all I have to talk about now..I've got some business to take care of......keep the interest&posts coming.....check with the guy who posted above about getting yurself a Chronicals book..maybe he'll deal in cash?See ya later...cheers mate-John
     
  28. Chuckles

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    Jedi Dade, John Polacchi, and other accurizers...
    There is some guy on the internet who is a complete hack at scratchbuilding. You might have heard of him. His name is Tim Ketzer (only joking. Tim, you're amazing). Anyway, If you've seen his attempt at accurizing the MPC Falcon, you may have noticed that he's cut off the front of the mandibles - the VERY front. I haven't really looked into this much whether to do it myself or not, but I wanted to know if anyone else out there has noticed this, and have they altered their own kits.
     
  29. JPolacchi

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    I have'nt worked on the MPC kit in a long time(much of it was destroyed in a move,got crushed&kit parts were lost/broken)Im working out drawings&gathering commercial kits(kitbashing) to make the 32" Falcon.Drawing blueprints(acurate ones) is alot harder than one thinks....most everything else is just gravy.I dont even think I may build the MPC kit...I may just scratch one at about 24" or so...to accommodate most the other comercial kits that can be used at that scale..it'll just be a bit larger than the MPC kit(its just an idea).Alot of 1/32,1/48,1/72,1/76,1/20.....maybe 1/12 F1 comercial kits can be used for that scale..be difficult to go much smaller in scale unless you want to scratch everything.To my knowledge....there are'nt any military armour kits that are made past 1/72,or 1/76 scale,but I could be wrong.
     
  30. belleauwood

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    There are SOME kits smaller than 1/76, Roco Minitanks are )I think) 1/85. Fairley cheap, but sometimes pretty "soft" on the details too . . .

    Ryan
     
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    I cant find them...itsmostly train stuff...they have some resin kits but they are HO scale
     
  33. Pygar

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    I used the advanced search, N gauge, "tank", and found the following item numbers... 5800,58003,900,903,904,932.
     
  34. Jedi Dade

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    Regarding scale... the ILM ESB model is apprx.32" the MPC is apprx. 18" Thats approx. 1/2 (56% actually). I took the approach that when your going done to a really small scale kit(like 1/72) where the error in the kits is probably enough to hide the 6% your off on your overall scaling. Basically what I am trying to do is find the kits of the same subject used on the ILM model in a proportionally smaller scale - It will never be perfect. But it does kinda work...certainly much better then the MPC model started out as.

    I like the term superdetailing much better then accurizing for this project. It is impossible to make the ship "accurate" since its just plain the wrong size. however with a bit of work it can be made into a * nice model that looks pretty close to what it should look like and that's what I think the goal should be, unless you're tackling the 3 or 5 footer [​IMG] which I'm hoping this project will increase my scratchbuilding skills to the point I can make a reasonably successful attempt at.

    Jedi Dade
     
  35. JPolacchi

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    I wonder what the detail is like on these n scale trank kits,and if parts can be salvaged from the kits to be used practically on the MPC kit?
     
  36. KAIBURR

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    Builders,

    It looks as though Jack Smith is finally selling his conversion kit again. I plan on jumping on it soon, but thought you all might want to know about it. He is currently offering the complete kit and not the seperate packages, but that's the one to buy anyhow. I can't wait for mine!

    Nathan
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  37. KAIBURR

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    Builders,

    It looks as though Jack Smith is finally selling his conversion kit again. I plan on jumping on it soon, but thought you all might want to know about it. He is currently offering the complete kit and not the seperate packages, but that's the one to buy anyhow. I can't wait for mine!

    Nathan
    nkhyber@aol.com
     
  38. Treadwell

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    Really? How'd ya find out? His site hasn't been updated with that news.
     
  39. Chuckles

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    Have those sidewall upgrades he's offering been rescaled to the correct height in relation to the rest of the falcon?
    I've asked around at some hobby shops, jedi dade, everyone seems to be sure that no one makes 1/48 scale F1 kits. Bummer. These would be really handy.
    I just bought the a beat up old Falcon toy from the 70'sfor really cheap. It's missing bits everywhere, but I think I'll fix it and paint it all up as practice for my MPC superdetailing. I can't wait to get started, but I have a super sculpey figure to complete.
     
  40. KAIBURR

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    Tread,

    I inquired long ago and I guess he has me on some sort of mailing list. My guess is that he's taking orders from old inquiries first and then everyone else? At any rate, it looks like we're all in luck as he is subcontracting the work to make sure it's expediated in a timely fashion.

    chuckles,

    Yes, the correct wall height is one of the reasons for owning the kit. Also the landing gear and eveything else about it!

    Nathan
     
  41. JPolacchi

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    I've seen 1/43 F1 kits on ebay,but Im not sure how many different F1 kits are made,and if you would get the neccesary details from a kit that small..my guess is "no" considering I've bought a 1/24 Entex F1 kit before and there was hardley any engine,or chassie detail..it was mainly molded in 1 piece.I cant say about other companies like Tamiya,Imex,Fujimi or any other.
     
  42. Chuckles

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    Rather off the topic of the MPC falcon...
    The old Kenner toy falcon (that I mentioned I bought) has a missing ramp. I want to scratch it, but would like some pics of the original ramp, preferably close up. If anyone knows of a site with good pics please let me know. Even better, If you have that toy, and a digi camera, I would really appreciate some pics of the ramp. my email is arrmaties@hotmail.com .Thanks in advance. The funny thing about the kenner toy is that fact that the engine deck is more detailed than the MPC kit.
     
  43. Jedi Dade

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    The falcon kits details are worth every penny!!! Just in case any of you were wondering [​IMG] the side panels are closer to the ANH though so those of you making the ESB version need to still build your own. The details on the ESB version seem to be a bit "easier" to me. People around here know what the side panel parts were on the ESB and I've been able to find some parts in smaller scale (for the MPC) that seemed to work well. I'd just state the parts but my mind can not remeber what they were. I think it was the suspension/tread are of a tank that was used like on like 3 or 4 panels, I can't remeber ... too much scotch last night ;( In any case the falcon kits parts are great, and the ESB can be scratch built/kit bashed reasoanbly [​IMG]

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  44. JPolacchi

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    Tamiya made the 935 Porsche in 2 scales....1/12&1/20..but I cant think which one would work best for the MPC kit...the 1/12 may be too big&the 1/20 may be too small.....some of the other parts cant be found in a scale small enough to suit the MPC kit...so you either have to bite the bullet,of dig in&scratch build alot of parts...maybe get creative&try bashing with other parts..or "found items".
     
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  46. Jedi Dade

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    Those look pretty cool, too bad I can't read German ;( Would anyone who knws Herman care to give us the readers digest translation [​IMG]

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  47. nightrider

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    Could anyone give me some advice about what kits would work well for some of the major parts on the side panels, especially the front ones. I'm not really concerned about them being authentic, just making the model look good. This will be my first kit bashing experiance, so any tips would be appreciated.
     
  48. Jedi Dade

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    If you're not going for accuracy pretty much anything will do as long as it looks mechanical and looks like it has a function. You'll need some type of transmission/gearbox for the side near the cockpit. try looking at a pic of the falcon in the area you're trying to recreate, then without looking draw the parts you remeber seeing. Those are the parts that you pretty much want to look right, everything else as long as it looks like it "belongs" will be fine. It won't be an accurate model but it will look like the falcon to just about everyone that doesn't hang out around these boards [​IMG]

    The problem with making it "accurate" is that the kits used on the 5 footer and the 32" are mostly 1/35 and 1/72 scale - mostly - trying to find a kit in 1/144 that still has the detailing you're looking for is proving very difficult - but not impossible [​IMG] to make it look accurate will involve a lot of scratch building, which I'm getting better at, but still am a long way from being "good" at. Its fun, and the way I look at it all part of the hobby. Good luck

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  49. nightrider

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    Hi guys. I appreciate the tips you gave me Dade, they really helped. I just completed my falcon, and this was my first attempt at doing some kit-bashing. Now that I've gotten more familiar with it, I'll probably build another falcon, and go for some more accuracy this time around. Here is a link to some pics of my falcon on the Augustan Raiders discussion forums. Like I said, it's my first attempt, so go easy on me. (At least they are the right height, and look better than what came with it.) http://www.agraiders.homelinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123
     
  50. Jedi Dade

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    Looks really good. Now that you've got the idea I can't wait to see your next one [​IMG] If you need reference pics drop me an email

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