PR85
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...This made my day...
Student needing opinions for Bigfoot research paper.
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...This made my day...
RAGE88
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It made me believe that we have an alien caught on film... and not a saskquatch.
debate that :eek
Laffo
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Oni is 100% correct.
My Brother is a pathologist for the State of Florida and NOAA, with his concentration being Sea Turtles. He was the head pathologist on the Deepwater Horizon spill. When Louisiana opened up the shrimp fisheries early to beat the oil, they did so on top of the turtle egg laying season. The turtle kill was massive. Even though the two weeks before the spill they had 1000 turtles in their lab (compared to 80 they get for a year normally), my brother said that's 1/2 of 1% of the animals actually killed. That's just simply the only ones that could be found.
That they get remains of any kind out of the woods or ocean after 3 days is highly unlikely. Especially if the animal is desirable to scavengers.
Humans are not desirable, we smell like humans, that's why we tend to lay out there undisturbed. Felines aren't that desirable either.
We live where the Whitetail population, in some areas, is approaching 5 deer a square mile, and where there is now no limit on the number you can kill. Even with that population density I haven't run up on a deer carcass in 3 years. I haven't run up on a complete one in 15.
The absence of remains is not conclusive at all.
Laffo.
Onigiri
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I would also like to relate a story as to how my old sensei in Seattle and his wife decided to go camping in the vicinity of 'Ape Canyon'. I told him that was the original Bigfoot hotspot and he just laughed at me. He and his wife spent all night sitting back to back in their tent with pistols drawn because of 'howling' and rocks hitting their tent. They got out of there 1st thing in the morning. Not much scares this guy but Ape Canyon scared the crap out of him. He grew up in Arizona and said it definitely wasnt coyotes and it was more an escalating 'yell/scream' and it really messed with him. Wat scared him even more was the fact that whatever or whoever was messing with them was close enough to hit the hit the tent with thrown rocks. He's not claiming Bigfoot he's just claiming that something scared the carp out of them that night and he has no desire to ever go back there.
voice in the crowd
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I personally do not believe in bigfoot but I did watch a documentary on this famous piece of film footage you have shown a still from.
After watching the documentary there are quite a few things that were pointed out about the movement of the bigfoot and the proportions of it that made it appear more feal than fake.
Not sure how biased the documentary was although the scientists did seem pretty impartial.
Oh and they also interviewed Hollywood prop guys of the time and they said they could not have made an outfit that moved like this. Again that was only the opinion of one man.
Cheers Chris
After watching the documentary there are quite a few things that were pointed out about the movement of the bigfoot and the proportions of it that made it appear more feal than fake.
Not sure how biased the documentary was although the scientists did seem pretty impartial.
Oh and they also interviewed Hollywood prop guys of the time and they said they could not have made an outfit that moved like this. Again that was only the opinion of one man.
Cheers Chris
Cal
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I personally believe it's one of those times where they did everything in such a way it fools your eye into seeing things that are not there because of the poor quality of the film. It's hard to dismiss or prove because, there are to many things left without clear answers, and to many what if's.
The existence of a creature this size is definitely possible, but no-one can say for certain that what is in the film is a new species biped mammal native to the U.S. It just seems unlikely.
The existence of a creature this size is definitely possible, but no-one can say for certain that what is in the film is a new species biped mammal native to the U.S. It just seems unlikely.
SiliconRiot
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There is an article in an old Cinefex..not sure of the issue I'll try to find it where John Landis talks about when he was working on the lot as a runner and he walked past John Chambers makeup room, they were working on a similar suit and talking about setting up a friend. There is also a popular story that Rick Baker knows more details about the story directly from John Chambers....:cool
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RAGE88
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The whole decomposition issue is interesting. Never thought of it like that. I still contend that in this day and age and in populated areas like North America, that it would be hard (not impossible) but hard for these things to exist without being noticed or caught on a video camera or phone or something.
Laffo
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How much time have you spent in the old growth Pacific Northwest? The Okefenokee? The Everglades? You'd realize right quick that there's all the chance in the world these things could be in there and not get seen. There are parts of Yellowstone that are just NOW being mapped. They have found 200 waterfalls over 50 feet that no knew existed, in the last 10 years in the Park.
A Park that attracts millions of visitors a year.
Yellowstone Waterfalls
Until 4 years ago the existence of Reticulated Pythons in the Everglades was unsubstantiated, and now their population is so large they are showing up everywhere. Plus they are now big enough to eat crocodilians.
It is very possible for a species to survive and flourish in the Americas and we not know about it.
That doesn't mean there IS, just means this Country is a lot bigger and a hell of a lot more remote in areas than you give it credit for.
Laffo.
clonesix
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The evidence of existence is not necessarily require a visual sighting. Something that big (or any size for that matter) needs to eat. It probably needs to eat every day. Even if it eats only plants, it needs to eat. It must eat a certain percentage of its body weight to live. Even 1% of a 200 lb beast is 2 lb/day. That's 750 lbs worth of plant material being torn up, pulled down, broken off each year. You think someone would find evidence of this somewhere? They haven't
If it eats animals, it must hunt for the animal and kill it. It must leave its hiding place long enought to hunt and kill an animal. It either eats it there, or hauls it back to its hiding place. Either way, it doesn't eat the bones. so they would be left behind. Has anyone found the remains of the meal? No. Bone that they do find, they can directly attribute to the bear or other animal that killed it by the tracks, bite markes, etc.
Next, If an animal eats, it also poops. Most animals poop every day. Most poop dries up and doesn't necesssarily wash away. The size and shape of the poop will tell you whether it was deer, bear, dog, etc. Do you think a "Bigfoot" makes big poop? Everyday? Over the past 100 years? Has anyone ever found bigfoot poop?
No tracks, No food source, and no poop. = Doesn't exist.
If it eats animals, it must hunt for the animal and kill it. It must leave its hiding place long enought to hunt and kill an animal. It either eats it there, or hauls it back to its hiding place. Either way, it doesn't eat the bones. so they would be left behind. Has anyone found the remains of the meal? No. Bone that they do find, they can directly attribute to the bear or other animal that killed it by the tracks, bite markes, etc.
Next, If an animal eats, it also poops. Most animals poop every day. Most poop dries up and doesn't necesssarily wash away. The size and shape of the poop will tell you whether it was deer, bear, dog, etc. Do you think a "Bigfoot" makes big poop? Everyday? Over the past 100 years? Has anyone ever found bigfoot poop?
No tracks, No food source, and no poop. = Doesn't exist.
I'll believe anything if you bring me a carcass of said thing. Your paper should petition to form a party for the protection and preservation of paranormal critters via killing them. Think of the justice that could be done for the species if we kill some for study. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few dozen," is how the old saying goes, I believe.
Laffo
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See the post above yours.
The diet and feeding patterns you list are complete conjecture. You argue there's no way for it to exist and list possible diets, ignoring the possibility that it's an omnivore. Which is likely. Solitary omnivores leave little sign, especially very timid omnivores. Therefore we have no idea what sign it would leave.
There are plenty of mammals and birds that DO EAT bones and teeth on a kill. We've already discussed why the remains of a Bigfoot may not be found. A kill site is no different.
We also don't know if it buries it's scat. Many animals do. We have a Barn Cat. I never see it's craps or remains of all the Mice it eats. Does that mean that it doesn't exist?
Laffo.
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