Cephus
Master Member
Nope, it's not. That's why they have the really, really, really long tunnel.
Stranger Things (Netflix)
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Nope, it's not. That's why they have the really, really, really long tunnel.
Gimpdiggity
Master Member
I really enjoyed the last episode.
I was really not looking forward to “The Never Ending Story” bit, but I loved the scene from inside the car of the Goo Monster chasing them through the back window while they stare at the walkie in disbelief.
Hopper did kind of redeem himself...I still could’ve done with a bit less yelling.
I have no doubts at all that Hopper is alive...my biggest question is this...how did all of the Russians get out of the base? We saw the ones right in the room with the laser get melted, but Joyce didn’t so it’s safe to assume anyone not in that room survived...and there seemed to be more than just those few Russians. My personal feeling is that they have some sort of portal device, possibly using another small entrance to the Upside Down that they’ve figured out how to use to travel from one place to another. This answers the question of how they got out...and answers my complaint about how they built a giant base with nobody knowing.
I thought it was a strong end to what was, in my opinion, an uneven season. Still really like the characters, but some of the things this season just didn’t do it for me.
I was really not looking forward to “The Never Ending Story” bit, but I loved the scene from inside the car of the Goo Monster chasing them through the back window while they stare at the walkie in disbelief.
Hopper did kind of redeem himself...I still could’ve done with a bit less yelling.
I have no doubts at all that Hopper is alive...my biggest question is this...how did all of the Russians get out of the base? We saw the ones right in the room with the laser get melted, but Joyce didn’t so it’s safe to assume anyone not in that room survived...and there seemed to be more than just those few Russians. My personal feeling is that they have some sort of portal device, possibly using another small entrance to the Upside Down that they’ve figured out how to use to travel from one place to another. This answers the question of how they got out...and answers my complaint about how they built a giant base with nobody knowing.
I thought it was a strong end to what was, in my opinion, an uneven season. Still really like the characters, but some of the things this season just didn’t do it for me.
Riceball
Master Member
I don't see what the problem with the Russians being in the base in uniform is. I'm pretty sure that, with the exception of the outside security, they were all confined to the base, so who's going to see them in their uniforms besides other Russians. Plus it's a secret military operation, so why wouldn't the military personnel be there in uniform? It's not like they're supposed to infiltrate American society and act as sleeper agents or spy on the town, the military personnel were there primarily as security, both inside and outside the base, so no need for civilian clothes. Not to mention that aside from the General and the doctor, I doubt that many of them spoke English and those that did would do so with a distinct Russian accent, so I doubt that any of them (outside of a select few) would even be allowed to go out into town for fear of raising suspicions as this is the height of the Cold War and there weren't exactly a lot of Russians visiting the US, or concerns over personnel defecting if allowed outside of the base.
One last thing, it's mind flayer, not mind flare. It's a D&D reference to a race of telepathic octopus headed creatures that enslaved other intelligent beings and sucked their brains out as a treat. The term mind flayer comes from their psychic powers being able to really mess with your head and scramble your brain until you can't hold anything remotely resembling and intelligent thought.
Idk the Russians in uniform don’t sit right with me.. like I said lest of my concern though, we are talking about inter dimensional monsters lol
I just find myself weird, easier for me to believe soup monsters then Russians in America
Riceball
Master Member
Just keep this in mind, it's a Russian base, granted it's a secret one on American soil but it's still a Russian base so there's no reason for them not to be in uniform. Plus, from a visual storytelling standpoint it makes sense as reminder that this is a secret Russian base without having to have anyone speak Russian or post a lot of signs in Cyrillic around the set.
CB2001
Master Member
And, also, this film mimics a lot of the 1980s movie tropes. And what's more 1980s movie tropic than having a hidden Russian base in America where the Russians wear their uniforms to signify that they're Russians?
Cephus
Master Member
They say no less than 4 seasons and no more than 5. They're even saying that having 5 seasons seems a little long.
I'm looking at YOU, Walking Dead!
Sandman0077
Sr Member
I wouldn't mind him being the big bad of the series, but I feel like they revealed him too soon for season 2.
I really want to know if they open the gate again if the mush monster comes back to life
Sandman0077
Sr Member
The government probably incinerated it. My question is wouldn't there still be the part of the Mind Flayer that left Will in season 2?
Solo4114
Master Member
Actually, my guess is they go a different direction in a Season 4.
The hanging threads from Season 3 are basically as follows:
1. Will El's powers come back? And what exactly made them go away in the first place?
2. Who is "the American" (duh, it's Hopper), and what is the significance of the demogorgon that's in captivity in the USSR?
I think the answer to 2 is the "hook" but not the real meat of the season. It's the thing that'd get the kids into action, and it'd probably take the form of the 80s trope of having kids go rescue captured Americans across Soviet lines. You saw this in at least two films that I can think of in the mid-to-late 80s: (1) The Rescue (kids sneak into North Korea to rescue their capture Navy SEAL dads); and (2) Iron Eagle (hotshot pilot rescues his shot-down Air Force pilot dad from Libya or whatever). You also have the already-referenced-this-season Red Dawn, and a lesser-known film called "Born American" which is about three college kids sneaking across the Russian border on a hunting trip in Finland, getting captured, and then getting stuck in a gulag and finally one of them escapes with a new girlfriend or something.
All of these came out between around 1986 and 1989 (except Red Dawn, which was '84), but they all deal with teenagers basically acting as partisans or commandos, and at least two deal with exfiltrating prisoners (and one exfiltrating onesself). So, I suspect they'll somehow figure out Hopper is in the USSR and cook up some ridiculous plan to get him out.
But the REAL meat will be El and her powers. Why'd they fade? What would bring them back? My guess is it's something to do with the bite she received, and that her powers will become somehow tied to the upside down, the Mind Flayer, or something along those lines. She'll have to use her powers which will increase over the season, but will bring her dangerously close to the Mind Flayer taking control of her or just her going evil.
The other angle on this is the Alien/Aliens angle, and it could tie into the same thing. Like, the U.S. military discovers that demogorgons are actually being bred in Russia, on the theory that they can become a weapon the Russians can control, and everyone is forced to confront them once again because they're the only people with firsthand knowledge of the demogorgons and how to fight them, and the only people to survive.
Paul Reiser will be the person who gets them involved, somewhat mirroring his shadier counterpart from Aliens.
Fun fact: Aliens came out in '86, which would chronologically be the next year in the show...
The hanging threads from Season 3 are basically as follows:
1. Will El's powers come back? And what exactly made them go away in the first place?
2. Who is "the American" (duh, it's Hopper), and what is the significance of the demogorgon that's in captivity in the USSR?
I think the answer to 2 is the "hook" but not the real meat of the season. It's the thing that'd get the kids into action, and it'd probably take the form of the 80s trope of having kids go rescue captured Americans across Soviet lines. You saw this in at least two films that I can think of in the mid-to-late 80s: (1) The Rescue (kids sneak into North Korea to rescue their capture Navy SEAL dads); and (2) Iron Eagle (hotshot pilot rescues his shot-down Air Force pilot dad from Libya or whatever). You also have the already-referenced-this-season Red Dawn, and a lesser-known film called "Born American" which is about three college kids sneaking across the Russian border on a hunting trip in Finland, getting captured, and then getting stuck in a gulag and finally one of them escapes with a new girlfriend or something.
All of these came out between around 1986 and 1989 (except Red Dawn, which was '84), but they all deal with teenagers basically acting as partisans or commandos, and at least two deal with exfiltrating prisoners (and one exfiltrating onesself). So, I suspect they'll somehow figure out Hopper is in the USSR and cook up some ridiculous plan to get him out.
But the REAL meat will be El and her powers. Why'd they fade? What would bring them back? My guess is it's something to do with the bite she received, and that her powers will become somehow tied to the upside down, the Mind Flayer, or something along those lines. She'll have to use her powers which will increase over the season, but will bring her dangerously close to the Mind Flayer taking control of her or just her going evil.
The other angle on this is the Alien/Aliens angle, and it could tie into the same thing. Like, the U.S. military discovers that demogorgons are actually being bred in Russia, on the theory that they can become a weapon the Russians can control, and everyone is forced to confront them once again because they're the only people with firsthand knowledge of the demogorgons and how to fight them, and the only people to survive.
Paul Reiser will be the person who gets them involved, somewhat mirroring his shadier counterpart from Aliens.
Fun fact: Aliens came out in '86, which would chronologically be the next year in the show...
I really enjoyed Paul Reiser's character too. Hopefully he plays a larger role in the new season.
It may have been mentioned before but my wife theorized that perhaps:
It may have been mentioned before but my wife theorized that perhaps:
Perhaps Harper jumped into the portal and when it closed he is trapped in the Upside Down. The American referenced in the Russian Prison is actually Brenner. The next season will be about reopening the portal in order to rescue Hopper.
Sandman0077
Sr Member
The entire season I kept saying to my wife "Where the hell is that doctor guy??"
Cephus
Master Member
It's not Harper, it's Hopper.
