StarGate rebooted trilogy?

[AJTaliesen]

and I just have to post this:
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GATERS ARE GONNA GATE

One of my favorite episodes. Doesn't really do much for the plot or anything, just a fun idea. I liked when they seemed to take time out from the story arc to just do fun things...like groundhogs day, or the Wormhole Extreme episodes (which not only poked fun at itself, but managed to sneak in some good digs at Farscape and Firefly as well).

 

[stefanchik]

I NEED to know if Eli fixed the pod or not :lol

On this I can give you the definitive answer Alan,
The answer is that "No he didn't" - and in rage he pulled all the pod doors off and sent them through the Stargate to Illinois where VIP found them and sold all of them privately to myself

 

[cboath]

This reboot seems very counterintuitive. You'd think the point would be to capitalize on a known brand/franchise. Well, i'd venture that the vast majority of your target audience hears 'stargate' and the first that that pops to mind is one of, if not all of, the TV series. I'd imagine a good number don't know much about the Kurt Russell movie. Trying to undue that is going to have people in the theatre very confused and that's something you don't want.

 

[BlobVanDam]

This reboot seems very counterintuitive. You'd think the point would be to capitalize on a known brand/franchise. Well, i'd venture that the vast majority of your target audience hears 'stargate' and the first that that pops to mind is one of, if not all of, the TV series. I'd imagine a good number don't know much about the Kurt Russell movie. Trying to undue that is going to have people in the theatre very confused and that's something you don't want.

Like any other reboot, their target audience is not the existing fanbase, it's aimed at pulling in the average moviegoer audience to make as much money as possible.
Unfortunately, appealing to the current hardcore fanbase isn't as profitable as targeting the general public, at least in the shorter term. And us hardcore fans usually go and watch these reboots/remakes anyway so we can grumble about it online. :lol

 

[cboath]

That's kind of my point. THe shows were basically ubiquitous. SG1 was on what? 9 years? Altantis 3 more after that? Universe 1 after that? The shows were out there 10-15 years. Even the casual moviegoer is aware of them i'd guess. That's what makes it seem less than a smart move. Maybe they can do it well i don't know. But overwrting 15 years of TV and going for a trilogy seems like a bit of a stretch

 

[The Terminator]

That's kind of my point. THe shows were basically ubiquitous. SG1 was on what? 9 years? Altantis 3 more after that? Universe 1 after that? The shows were out there 10-15 years. Even the casual moviegoer is aware of them i'd guess. That's what makes it seem less than a smart move. Maybe they can do it well i don't know. But overwrting 15 years of TV and going for a trilogy seems like a bit of a stretch

SG-1 started airing in 1997, lasted for 10 seasons. Atlantis for 5 seasons and Universe for just 2 seasons. 17 seasons vs a 2 hour film

 

[Risu]

Not to mention the 2 SG-1 movies.

 

[AJTaliesen]

Well...I'll go see it.

But one of the biggest problems with this new craze of "let's reboot everything, even if it's only been a couple of years" is that by rebooting it so soon, they actually probably WONT be drawing too many new people in. If it's been 20 years people might want to take a look. Like me with batman. Never read the comic, never watched the cartoons. But 20 years later a new batman reboot? What the heck...I went and saw it. Loved it.

But on the other hand...take battlestar. I liked it as a kid, but with the new series, I just never got into it. Nothing against it, it just didn't grab me. IF they had done a movie instead, I would've gone to at least give it a chance. But if they did a movie now..I'd think "Nah...I haven't really kept up with the series, I wouldn't appreciate it."



I have a feeling that most of the audience opening weekend will be those of us who loved the original and the series. New fans are likely to wait until we drag them to it with promises of "It's OK if you didn't watch Atlantis!"

IF we like it enough to go back.

 

[The Terminator]

Not to mention the 2 SG-1 movies.

:eek I actually forgot about them :facepalm unbelievable

I loved both Ark of Truth and Continuum and couldn't wait for the next "direct-to-video"-film. Six years later.... I'm still waitiiiiiiiing

 

[SciFiPropFreak]

Hey, Bruce Wayne here...
I just bought MGM!
So, how many new seasons of SG1, SGA and SGU should we make? 10 each, ok?


...well you gotta have dreams, right? ;-)

 

[The Terminator]

Hey, Bruce Wayne here...
I just bought MGM!
So, how many new seasons of SG1, SGA and SGU should we make? 10 each, ok?


...well you gotta have dreams, right? ;-)

It's one thing I would do if I had money like Bill Gates
Bring back Firefly? Suuure, why not

 

[Unlucky Berman]

Like any other reboot, their target audience is not the existing fanbase, it's aimed at pulling in the average moviegoer audience to make as much money as possible.
Unfortunately, appealing to the current hardcore fanbase isn't as profitable as targeting the general public, at least in the shorter term. And us hardcore fans usually go and watch these reboots/remakes anyway so we can grumble about it online. :lol

I guess this sums it up. I mean ST was just the same, even bigger. Decades and at least two or three generations knowing it, grewing up with it and then came JJ and his gang throwing all that out of the hatch of some stupid spinning Spockshuttle in just another timejump.

But it kind of worked and I am still surprised how. I like this new movies even less than the latest with the TNG crew (and they were crap too). But the new ones are far more away from anything ST ever was but still critics liked them, people watched them and they made more of them.

Now they are doing the same to Star Wars and I feel another time f...ed up after I bought for nearly 20 years novels, comics, adored the characters and what they were going through. But nope, now comes Mickey Mouse and explains to me and all the others, sorry but all you have there is just "legend", it never happened and only what you can buy from us now is officially correct.

So I think MGM saw it worked with ST, seems to work with SW, two of the greates Sci-Fi franchises ever, why not doing it to SG too and earning some more with it. As you said, the main audience is the small child from now, who quite never saw the series yet but will want shiny cool lego stargate stuff, videogames and all the other things of a rebooted franchise. And as a bonus will many of us still go into the new movie and so they will earn with the selling of these tickets too.

 

[Solo4114]

That's kind of my point. THe shows were basically ubiquitous. SG1 was on what? 9 years? Altantis 3 more after that? Universe 1 after that? The shows were out there 10-15 years. Even the casual moviegoer is aware of them i'd guess. That's what makes it seem less than a smart move. Maybe they can do it well i don't know. But overwrting 15 years of TV and going for a trilogy seems like a bit of a stretch

Actually, if anything, that makes a stronger case for a reboot.

The purpose of reboots, as stated, is to bring in new audiences. But the way they do that is by offering them a cool-looking film with a familiar name.

The familiarity is key here. People are FAR more willing to take a chance on something they've heard of than something they've never heard of. If they've never heard of it, you have to work a lot harder on the marketing end to convince them to go see it, or at least that seems to be the attitude of the suits.

So, with something like Stargate, it's a perfect fit, in a sense. There's plenty of brand familiarity, but not brand ubiquity. While it's true that there were many years of shows and such, even then, SG-1 was kind of a niche product. Sure there's plenty of fans here, but even here, it's nowhere NEAR as popular as something like, say, the Marvel stuff, or Star Wars, or whathaveyou.

Still, it's a familiar enough name that, coupled with a hot new cast and a strong marketing campaign, it'd stand a chance of doing a lot better than, say, a random film about people who use wormholes to travel to distant worlds and explore them.