Can anyone tell me how this came about if Palpatine survived? Anakin appearing as a Jedi force ghost IN Jedi robes with Obi Wan and Yoda? Having zero explanation from Jar Jar are we to just assume the Force got it wrong? Am I to just disregard the redemption and reward trope its based on? If you want to indulge yourself in a story based on a lie or at the very least an OT retcon just to replace it with a soul less corporate symbol, knock yourself out but dont get your feathers all flustered if I dont.
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Sorry, dont buy it. Giving Hayden a cheque doesnt make it more legit and when was it explained that his spirit did enter a clones body or even if it was a clone? Frankly, i`ve forgotten much of it already. Maybe if he went with the Snoke clone thing that he waved under every ones nose anyway instead of Palpatine it would be more palatable. My guess is higher powers wouldnt allow that to happen anyway., doesnt fit the agenda.Heavy spoilers here:
At the end when all the Jedi speak to Rey you can clearly hear Hayden as Anakin say "restore balance as I did" and it's not too big a leap from there to assume that Palps was definitely dead for a while before his spirit made it to the clone body on Exegol.
Sorry, dont buy it. Giving Hayden a cheque doesnt make it more legit and when was it explained that his spirit did enter a clones body or even if it was a clone? Frankly, i`ve forgotten much of it already. Maybe if he went with the Snoke clone thing that he waved under every ones nose anyway instead of Palpatine it would be more palatable. My guess is higher powers wouldnt allow that to happen anyway., doesnt fit the agenda.
You guys completely missed the message that was being sent: you are your own person, and where you come from doesn't define who you are. Rey may have been a Palpatine by blood, but she had the spirit of a true Jedi.
Skywalker Saga, Palpatine Saga... in the end it's both. The fates of the Palpatines and the Skywalkers have been intertwined since this moment:
She lost the will to live.
Hey, what's Star Wars without a little implied incest?
In all, I found it very dark and intense, almost as much so as Rogue One was. It had a lot of moments of sadness, bittersweetness, and especially fear. You know who Palpatine is, as does the rest of the Galaxy, and like the rest of the Galaxy, you know exactly what kind of evil he's capable of. My biggest complaint was how freaking convenient D-O was all around, and that Luke's X-Wing still worked after over a decade under corrosive sea water.
Heavy spoilers here:
At the end when all the Jedi speak to Rey you can clearly hear Hayden as Anakin say "restore balance as I did" and it's not too big a leap from there to assume that Palps was definitely dead for a while before his spirit made it to the clone body on Exegol.
And I appreciate that you offered to help me out. Its just frustrating that they bring back someone of such significance as Palpatine and the massive ripple effects it has on past events out of sheer creative bankruptcy and not even attempt to explain or justify it.You don't have to buy it, I'm just laying out how I interpreted the information in the film. You do you.
I don't think how Palps came back is a plot hole, so much as left for you to infer. We see Snokes in tubes, Palps says he has died before, there are mentions of dark sith magics. I don't think we require a dissertation on the metaphysics of spirit transference as it pertains to the Force in the Star Wars universe to connect the dots here.There are no where near the amount of holes or holes of such extraordinary magnitude in the OT as exist in this Disney trilogy. That was concluded most satisfactorily. Only when you attempt to construct a Frankensteinien version of the same thing using vastly inferior creators do such major issues occur as where we find ourselves today or I should say where I find myself today.
That's fine, but it's in the movie. If we're in the game of deciding that things in the movies, film cannon, do or do not count in it's story telling, then like the water in my toilet this conversation is just going to go in circles and out the drain.Using Snoke's in tubes in the films context was nothing more than Rian Johnson damage control, a reactionary decision not based or utilized in any actual creativity and the Palpatine stuff is just a reach to me.
There are heroes on both sides lolTotal trash... opening crawl, what the hell was that?!? First paragraph I started hitting the bottle..
My favorite part out of all of this was
“a jedi’s weapon shouldn’t be treated this way”
lol total slap on the face to RJ!! Lol
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Yeah. No real details, but the approximate age of the actor in the flashback implies the emperor conceived his son well after becoming emperor, which is grody.So I was confused when kylo was explaining Rey’s origin
Anyone know exactly what happened? Palpatine had a son? That’s all he said right?
Yeah. No real details, but the approximate age of the actor in the flashback implies the emperor conceived his son well after becoming emperor, which is grody.