Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Post-release)

[MattBlack]

Watched it last night. As expected really - not great, not terrible. The film is physical proof of the impact of trying to please unhappy fans. They really should have just called it "Star Wars: Damage Control"

Rise Of Skywalker just seemed heavily burdened with ret-conning all the things. There was so much heavy crow-barring of elements from The Last Jedi, I genuinely expected the characters to break the fourth wall and look at the audience and ask "happy now?!" at times. I think JJ had an impossible task - he was never going to be able to resolve the issues from The Last Jedi, tie up the story and deal with Carrie Fisher's death in a logical or satisfying way. The biggest problem was everything was just so predicable - I hadn't read any spoilers or leaks, but knew exactly what was going to happen the whole way through.

The most depressing part of pandering to the negative fanbase was Rose - they sidelined her and brought in another female character out of nowhere to partner Finn who then did nothing that Rose couldn't have done. It just felt so cynical and calculated. And I didn't even like the character of Rose!

As with all of the sequel trilogy, the strongest parts by far has been the Kylo Ren/Ben Solo arc. Adam Driver has been the MVP throughout and his character has been the most interesting by a country mile. I'd say the best scene in the film was his conversation with Han. That was genuinely emotional and moving. Shame nothing else came close.

I came out of the movie frustrated - mainly because there was so much potential for these films. I enjoyed the Force Awakens; there is a lot that's great with that movie, but nearly every interesting narrative part was wasted, under developed or just abandoned. Finn was redundant at the end of the Force Awakens and never recovered. Same with Poe.

However, I think these films are better than the Prequel trilogy, but then what isn't? It's just a shame that Disney went into these sequel films with no clear plan, arc or storyline. It's a trilogy of missed opportunities.


I still think Spaceballs is by far the best Star Wars sequel.

 

[JoMamma_Smurf]

I have to say... Knowing everything about it and seeing pictures before actually seeing it made me hate it. I just got back and I REALLY enjoyed it!! I immediately knew why I liked it so much after I got in my car. The plot of this movie is exactly how an EU novel would be written. EXACTLY!! Think about all of the crazy **** in the novels. Nobody crapped on those for ruining the Skywalker legacy. People actually lost their minds when they were denounced by Lucasfilm. This movie is a perfect EU type story put on film and I enjoyed the hell out of it like a guilty pleasure.

 

[Uber Fett]

88% fresh audience score. Hmm....... I really hope that this movie is better than people are saying. I'm not saying it'll be amazing, but I hope it's at least fun to watch, entertaining, and leaves me feeling more satisfied than I fear I'll be.

Frankly, ignore what the haters are saying. They're either just whining because their predictions turned out to be wrong and they can't admit it, or they are seagulls; you know, come in squawk, make a whole lot of noise, ***** all over everything, then leave.

The movie is actually really good and hits us fans every way in the feels. JJ did a great job of bringing the answers many were longing for in TLJ. Which is something many people forgot; TLJ was the middle part of a whole story, and people needed to wait until the third movie to get to that story! I say that as I believe that TLJ was the weakest of the nine movies. There is so much to digest in this movie that some of it really could have been the second in the trilogy. That's not to say one should completely blow off TLJ, but I could see how the good elements of that movie could have been combined with the first third of TROS. The final two thirds of this movie would, without a doubt, have been enough for a complete third act. It would have also made TROS feel less rushed, which would be the one of the few criticisms of this movie.

The acting was incredibly strong especially from the three main leads. Adam Driver was fantastic and carried the emotional weight of the movie very well. Daisy Ridley is outstanding and Billy D...Ole Colt 45, he's spectacular. JJ did right by the franchise and provided a deeply satisfying and very enjoyable conclusion to the Skywalker Saga. It's great movie, the best of the new trilogy, and it's definitely worth more than one viewing!

Ignore the trolls and seagulls, go see it for yourself and enjoy.

Shawn

 

[JediMichael]

I had another thought. It was implied in Revenge of the Sith that Palpatine and his master could create life....and therefore basically saying that he created Anakin. I saw that a comic even confirmed this.(not sure if that was considered canon though) So that in turn makes Luke and Leia Palpatines grandkids...right? So now does this mean that Luke, Leia and Rey are half brother and sisters? They kinda messed this up.

 

[Jaitea]

Frankly, ignore what the haters are saying. They're either just whining because their predictions turned out to be wrong and they can't admit it, or they are seagulls; you know, come in squawk, make a whole lot of noise, ***** all over everything, then leave.

The movie is actually really good and hits us fans every way in the feels. JJ did a great job of bringing the answers many were longing for in TLJ. Which is something many people forgot; TLJ was the middle part of a whole story, and people needed to wait until the third movie to get to that story! I say that as I believe that TLJ was the weakest of the nine movies. There is so much to digest in this movie that some of it really could have been the second in the trilogy. That's not to say one should completely blow off TLJ, but I could see how the good elements of that movie could have been combined with the first third of TROS. The final two thirds of this movie would, without a doubt, have been enough for a complete third act. It would have also made TROS feel less rushed, which would be the one of the few criticisms of this movie.

The acting was incredibly strong especially from the three main leads. Adam Driver was fantastic and carried the emotional weight of the movie very well. Daisy Ridley is outstanding and Billy D...Ole Colt 45, he's spectacular. JJ did right by the franchise and provided a deeply satisfying and very enjoyable conclusion to the Skywalker Saga. It's great movie, the best of the new trilogy, and it's definitely worth more than one viewing!

Ignore the trolls and seagulls, go see it for yourself and enjoy.

Shawn

Hey!....don't start all this

Folks are allowed to like or dislike

J

 

[crabra comander]

Who the hell was that caterpillar alien on their ship? What was up with the kiss at the end It felt totally unearned. C-3PO was good and so was Bo Jack or whatever that little alien guy was. Dio was good too.

Really underwhelming fight scenes too bad they had to underutilize the knights of Ren. and the space battle at the end was a bit undewhelming.

Also, what was the deal with them just boarding the Star Destroyer to free Chewie...just a quick side mission, no real danger there.

And EVERY Star Destroyer has a PLANET KILLER?! Once they jumped to hyperspace shouldn't that have been a wrap. Also, why didn't Palpitations hyperjump his huge fleet into the Resistance?

 

[CT1138]

The digs have been equally aimed at non ST fans too to be fair but aside from that I agree with your take on this movie.

Essentially the Skywalkers end up being utter failures and die in vain. A Palpatine usurps their property, their accomplishments and ultimately their name as her own, despite having no significant connection or relationship to them and not having earned any of it, except for plot contrivances that could have made for interesting narrative choices had they been developed by more competent writers. In all honesty there were some good ideas presented here, but just handled poorly. Only now the triumph of the classic characters has been rendered meaningless and the legacy of the Emperor himself stands on their ashes. They should just rename this the Palpatine saga, because looking on the entire 9 episodes it's clear that he is really the focus of the story. Skywalker saga my ass.

The "Skywalker saga" is actually now the Palpatine saga. Way to destroy EVERYTHING the Skywalker story was about.

You guys completely missed the message that was being sent: you are your own person, and where you come from doesn't define who you are. Rey may have been a Palpatine by blood, but she had the spirit of a true Jedi.

Skywalker Saga, Palpatine Saga... in the end it's both. The fates of the Palpatines and the Skywalkers have been intertwined since this moment:

Can someone explain how Leia passed? It seems like she just reached out to Ben and that killed her?

She lost the will to live.

I had another thought. It was implied in Revenge of the Sith that Palpatine and his master could create life....and therefore basically saying that he created Anakin. I saw that a comic even confirmed this.(not sure if that was considered canon though) So that in turn makes Luke and Leia Palpatines grandkids...right? So now does this mean that Luke, Leia and Rey are half brother and sisters? They kinda messed this up.

Hey, what's Star Wars without a little implied incest?

In all, I found it very dark and intense, almost as much so as Rogue One was. It had a lot of moments of sadness, bittersweetness, and especially fear. You know who Palpatine is, as does the rest of the Galaxy, and like the rest of the Galaxy, you know exactly what kind of evil he's capable of. My biggest complaint was how freaking convenient D-O was all around, and that Luke's X-Wing still worked after over a decade under corrosive sea water.

 

[Mr Webber]

Frankly, ignore what the haters are saying. They're either just whining because their predictions turned out to be wrong and they can't admit it, or they are seagulls; you know, come in squawk, make a whole lot of noise, ***** all over everything, then leave.

The movie is actually really good and hits us fans every way in the feels. JJ did a great job of bringing the answers many were longing for in TLJ. Which is something many people forgot; TLJ was the middle part of a whole story, and people needed to wait until the third movie to get to that story! I say that as I believe that TLJ was the weakest of the nine movies. There is so much to digest in this movie that some of it really could have been the second in the trilogy. That's not to say one should completely blow off TLJ, but I could see how the good elements of that movie could have been combined with the first third of TROS. The final two thirds of this movie would, without a doubt, have been enough for a complete third act. It would have also made TROS feel less rushed, which would be the one of the few criticisms of this movie.

The acting was incredibly strong especially from the three main leads. Adam Driver was fantastic and carried the emotional weight of the movie very well. Daisy Ridley is outstanding and Billy D...Ole Colt 45, he's spectacular. JJ did right by the franchise and provided a deeply satisfying and very enjoyable conclusion to the Skywalker Saga. It's great movie, the best of the new trilogy, and it's definitely worth more than one viewing!

Ignore the trolls and seagulls, go see it for yourself and enjoy.

Shawn

Seagulls are useful, they clean up the carcass's of those mindless little Lemmings that throw themselves to their deaths for no good reason.

You say Jar Jar did a great job bringing the answers many were longing for after TLJ, hmm I would say he brushed them off with "reasons". Too bad he didnt give any answers to a couple of major questions he himself posed. Where did Lukes lightsaber come from in TFA that was the entire spark for the whole trilogy and Reys so called arc? I guess thats a question for another, another, another time. Would have been kinda good to know how Sheev survived as well. But hey, I guess if the mystery box is labeled Do Not Open its all fine.

Oh, my predictions for this turned out exactly as I thought they would, Jar Jar rarely disappoints.

 

[crabra comander]

Space steel doesn't rust....

 

[CT1138]

Obligatory...

 

[benhs1898]

I had another thought. It was implied in Revenge of the Sith that Palpatine and his master could create life....and therefore basically saying that he created Anakin. I saw that a comic even confirmed this.(not sure if that was considered canon though) So that in turn makes Luke and Leia Palpatines grandkids...right? So now does this mean that Luke, Leia and Rey are half brother and sisters? They kinda messed this up.

I think you're a little confused about how lineage works. Rey's parents would technically be Luke and Leia's half-siblings making Rey their cousin. To give you credit, it took me making this "graph" to come to that conclusion.
Rey=grand-daughter_______Kylo=Grandson
Reys parents=parents______Leia+Han=Parents
Palpatine=Grandfather_____Anakin+Padme=Grandparents
_________________________Palpatine=Great grandfather

 

[JBLAKE]

Kanan Jarrus voice, but no force ghost Ani? That was a huge let down for me......

 

[Jaitea]

My biggest complaint was how freaking convenient D-O was all around, and that Luke's X-Wing still worked after over a decade under corrosive sea water.

& that Luke's hut on Ahch-To had a door made from a wing of his X-Wing

J

 

[Jaitea]

Where did Lukes lightsaber come from in TFA that was the entire spark for the whole trilogy and Reys so called arc? I guess thats a question for another, another, another time.

I was starting to think that Kuiil (the Ugnaught) from The Mandalorian, could have possibly salvaged it from Cloud City

It could still go that way, IF he is still alive

J

 

[JBLAKE]

Just saw it pleasantly surprised at the emotional strength that quite a few scenes carried.
Chewie was gut wrenchingly sad to watch as well as Kylo's interaction with Han.
Thought it was a decent enough end to Disneys Vision of a Star Wars trilogy.
For me The Return of the Jedi is end of the Skywalker saga and I Happily Enjoy that. Given that , I thought TFA was bland, TLJ Disgraceful, and TROS a Pleasant surprise to end what was a mess. TROS had its moments for me and I was happy with them but again given in the context of the alternate reality jake skywalker Disney Star Wars universe, it was the best of what they had to offer. In my humble opinion.
Yes, it had enough eye rolling moments as well, but it had as much enjoyable moments too to equal it out.

 

[ZeroSum]

Who the hell was that caterpillar alien on their ship?

There were a few characters that were there randomly and seemed to serve no real purpose. Dominic Monaghan's character - whatever his name was - why did he need to be there? Is his character being set up for a spinoff or a sequel?

What was up with the kiss at the end It felt totally unearned

Unearned and IMO totally nonsensical.

Also, what was the deal with them just boarding the Star Destroyer to free Chewie...just a quick side mission, no real danger there.

Well, they needed to contrive a way to get Rey onto the ship to get her into Ren's quarters to... I dunno, have a nice moment together? Yeah, I don't know why they needed to be on the Star Destroyer either.

So the dagger... was really a wayfinder for the Wayfinder ?

 

[ZeroSum]

Another thing: uhhh... did a chimp fix Kylo's helmet?!

 

[Jaitea]

Another thing: uhhh... did a chimp fix Kylo's helmet?!

Ha, a chimp with Yoda ears,....must be from Yoda's planet lol

J

 

[Mr Webber]

I was starting to think that Kuiil (the Ugnaught) from The Mandalorian, could have possibly salvaged it from Cloud City

It could still go that way, IF he is still alive

J

Probably true but it should have been addressed in the trilogy it inspired and the director who introduced it. More mystery box rubbish, fast food for the brain.

 

[Mr Webber]

Can anyone tell me how this came about if Palpatine survived? Anakin appearing as a Jedi force ghost IN Jedi robes with Obi Wan and Yoda? Having zero explanation from Jar Jar are we to just assume the Force got it wrong? Am I to just disregard the redemption and reward trope its based on? If you want to indulge yourself in a story based on a lie or at the very least an OT retcon just to replace it with a soul less corporate symbol, knock yourself out but dont get your feathers all flustered if I dont.