Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Post-release)
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HeartBlade
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This may be slightly unrelated since it’s more Lucasfilm specific but how are you guys feeling about Disney purchasing Lucasfilm?
It seems to have been a bad deal for both sides imo.
Lucasfilm arguably has 2 amazing film franchises to capitalize on:
- Star Wars
- Indiana Jones
Star Wars has been kind of split in opinion and Indiana Jones didn’t do so hot in the 4th film. Do you guys think Disney should continue the Indy franchise or soft reboot it?
It seems to have been a bad deal for both sides imo.
Lucasfilm arguably has 2 amazing film franchises to capitalize on:
- Star Wars
- Indiana Jones
Star Wars has been kind of split in opinion and Indiana Jones didn’t do so hot in the 4th film. Do you guys think Disney should continue the Indy franchise or soft reboot it?
ghostryder
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Joek3rr
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You and I have different readings on that scene. I see Rey getting angry, knocking Luke down from behind. But he stands up, gets a stick of his own, and blocks an attack. The proceeds to easily dodge Rey's wild attacks. He lands a blow to her back. Thinking he's taken her down a bit, he lowers his weapon. But she just renews the attack. Finally, master Skywalker, showing his superiority and dominance, easily disarms the young woman. But she reaches for the lightsaber. Realizing the fught is getting out of hand, Luke, yields.
Fun fact, Luke and Rey having a fight, ending with Rey standing over Luke was an idea explored during the early days of TFA's production. Before Daisy Ridley was cast.
"Rick Carter brought in a stack of random stills from Japanese filmmaker Akira Kurosawa- directed films such as Rashômon and The Hidden Fortress-huge influences on George Lucas as a filmmaker generally and on Star Wars specifically-to the first Visualist meeting on January 9, 2013. As a creative exercise, Carter handed that stack to Kiri Hart and asked her to select several that told story of The Force Awakens in whatever way she thought best. The five chosen images were eventually painted by concept artists to depict Kira's/ Rey's journey through her training with Luke Skywalker. "
Joek3rr
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There has been dyads before. Palpatine said so.
And we saw one years ago in Clone Wars. The Father sensed Anakin was supposed to replace him. I wonder if that was a "false read" of the vibration of his not-yet-born grandson through the Force, who would actually replace The Son... or maybe the Daughter...? Or both, from a certain point of view.
HeartBlade
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the thing is that wasn’t shown in the movies and raises the question why? Are they incredibly rare? Is it always a dark side and light side entity (not sure light side is even a thing but whatever for now).
If so, we know in the past that there wasn’t many cases of there only being one Jedi and one Sith. The older generations had armies of Jedi vs armies of Sith. If there is a dyad, isn’t it in the best interest for the winning side to not train? If the dyad gets stronger, their counterpart also gets stronger without doing anything and would make the counterpart harder for the average soldier Jedi/Sith to take down.
HeartBlade
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Isn’t this what Disney did with Endgame or a similar movie to get audiences to come back to theaters again for a second viewing, thereby increasing the box office further?
Joek3rr
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All good questions. I have a feeling they are going to be explored in upcoming content. I wonder if Revan and Bastila will be dyads in the Force.
I have a friend in lucasfilm, he said once Disney bought it the whole work environment changed.. they cut benefits.. he hates it now
Went from a family, to corporation over night...
Joek3rr
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Very interesting, because according to visual effects supervisor Roger Guyett, there wasn't any work on done on any more Force ghosts.
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Jaitea
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ConvergencePro
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Welp I finally saw it last night. What a dumpster fire of a movie... but it kinda had to be so I’m not the least bit surprised after TLJ completely dropped the ball on any real character/story development. I don’t blame J.J. but wow did he not help
I’m confused about the knife... when was it made? It seems like such a bizarre thing. Idk why they went Goonies with it.. If it was made after the DSII was destroyed then that insinuates somebody found the Wayfinder in the wreck already... but if so why leave it there???
also I love how they simultaneously say the Holdo maneuver was a 1/1,000,000 thing and yet they show what looks like the aftermath of the same maneuver done on another SD over the moon of Endor...
it’s also hysterical they must have paid Harrison an ungodly amount of money to be in this for 2 minutes but they couldn’t even get him to cut his freaking hair to match TFA
This story and these characters, both old and new deserved so much better. So much wasted potential
MauLer says it pretty well
I’m confused about the knife... when was it made? It seems like such a bizarre thing. Idk why they went Goonies with it.. If it was made after the DSII was destroyed then that insinuates somebody found the Wayfinder in the wreck already... but if so why leave it there???
also I love how they simultaneously say the Holdo maneuver was a 1/1,000,000 thing and yet they show what looks like the aftermath of the same maneuver done on another SD over the moon of Endor...
it’s also hysterical they must have paid Harrison an ungodly amount of money to be in this for 2 minutes but they couldn’t even get him to cut his freaking hair to match TFA
This story and these characters, both old and new deserved so much better. So much wasted potential
MauLer says it pretty well
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sbaxter
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Only tangentially related, but I got my copy of the visual dictionary for TRoS yesterday. There is a section at the beginning recapping the first two films of the trilogy that adds a bit of new material on them. It specifically brings up Maz Kanata mentioning that she had a story to tell about how she acquired Anakin's/Luke's lightsaber, which makes me wonder if there are indeed specific plans of some sort to tell that story in some future venue. If they just wanted that question to quietly fade away, it would be odd to double-down on it like that at this point.
On another note, I'm a bit disappointed that the book appears not to include any images at all of the new B-wing, though it does mention it in the text -- mostly to say the Resistance is down to only about a half-dozen each of the four "letter" fighters.
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Jagjaguwar
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Saw it a third time last night, still great. Pretty busy for a weeknight showing, several weeks in. Noticed a few things that clear up some of the plot questions I had the first two times. Looking forward to the disc release to notice more.
And it’ll always be odd to me that people who don’t like a movie spend an additional 2 hours of their time listening to someone give a rambling monologue about why they disliked the same movie. If you feel you’ve already wasted two hours of your life, why double it? I liked the movie and there’s no way I would listen to someone prattle on about it for nearly the length of the movie itself.
And it’ll always be odd to me that people who don’t like a movie spend an additional 2 hours of their time listening to someone give a rambling monologue about why they disliked the same movie. If you feel you’ve already wasted two hours of your life, why double it? I liked the movie and there’s no way I would listen to someone prattle on about it for nearly the length of the movie itself.
Joek3rr
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ConvergencePro
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Because video essay creators like MauLer generally break down WHY they didn't like a film based on objective writing issues over the entire films structure which is both interesting and opens up discussion for how to write these things better in future endeavors. Similar to RLM's Episode I Plinket review. But Longman bad sooooo...Saw it a third time last night, still great. Pretty busy for a weeknight showing, several weeks in. Noticed a few things that clear up some of the plot questions I had the first two times. Looking forward to the disc release to notice more.
And it’ll always be odd to me that people who don’t like a movie spend an additional 2 hours of their time listening to someone give a rambling monologue about why they disliked the same movie. If you feel you’ve already wasted two hours of your life, why double it? I liked the movie and there’s no way I would listen to someone prattle on about it for nearly the length of the movie itself.
Not all of us like Marvel level's of writing across all our media
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