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Amazing what a " I can REALLY retire now" paycheck can do. I have no count the delay in casting announcements, beyond a coordinate effort to make it a big media event, and the screenplay delays, had all to do with signing the big three. If I was their agent, I would have brutalized Disney, and Disney will pay.
 
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It's so simple... if it isn't on screen, then it isn't cannon. Too bad EU fans.

Not now, now Disney says EVERYTHING that comes out from now on is canon, equal with the movies, new EU included. So all the crap is equal to the good now. So if you hate the EU, then it was better the way it was, separate.
 
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ewoks and Jar Jar perhaps?
That was my first thought. I hate to say that, but I can't apologize for why feel that way.

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Amazing what a " I can REALLY retire now" paycheck can do. I have no count the delay in casting announcements, beyond a coordinate effort to make it a big media event, and the screenplay delays, had all to do with signing the big three. If I was their agent, I would have brutalized Disney, and Disney will pay.
They will pay and still make a bajillion dollars.
 
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Not now, now Disney says EVERYTHING that comes out from now on is canon, equal with the movies, new EU included. So all the crap is equal to the good now. So if you hate the EU, then it was better the way it was, separate.

Or you can approach it the way Solo does. Reject what you don't like and make your own canon with the stuff you do.
 
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The new books are not new EU, they are Star Wars. Why do we assume they are going to he crap? Because the previous EU was hit it miss? Those stories proceeded without any effort of continuity. These new stories are going to be much more focused and controlled by LucasFilm, I would say that bodes well for it's potential.
 
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The new books are not new EU, they are Star Wars. Why do we assume they are going to he crap? Because the previous EU was hit it miss? Those stories proceeded without any effort of continuity. These new stories are going to be much more focused and controlled by LucasFilm, I would say that bodes well for it's potential.

Qft. The old EU was pretty large, sometimes contradictory and often bad. While I read some of it, I'll gladly take the chance of a fresh, focused and controlled start and will check out the new books...

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My sense is that the "quality control" for the old EU was...erm...a bit slapdash, when it existed at all. Doing a unified approach to all Star Wars material will, hopefully, focus the material much more, with less likelihood of, say, a "Darksaber" style story sneaking in (a.k.a. "Not Another Imperial Superweapon").
 
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Those stories proceeded without any effort of continuity.

I very much disagree with that. I've read mostly pre-ANH and post-ROTJ novels, so I can't speak towards anything else, but the stuff I've read have all been consistent within themselves and the movies, continuity-wise (except, of course, when the movies contradicted something and they had to explain it away.)
 
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I very much disagree with that. I've read mostly pre-ANH and post-ROTJ novels, so I can't speak towards anything else, but the stuff I've read have all been consistent within themselves and the movies, continuity-wise (except, of course, when the movies contradicted something and they had to explain it away.)

Yes, the novels were planned out to have a consistent story that would mesh with the films, when I say they proceeded with no effort if continuity I mean in regards to GL level canon. He had no input into their content or direction, so LucasFilm wasn't controlling the narrative, the book licensing group was along with DelRay and Dark Horse. Lucas only involvement was to prohibit certain eras or character stories to be explored.
 
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I very much disagree with that. I've read mostly pre-ANH and post-ROTJ novels, so I can't speak towards anything else, but the stuff I've read have all been consistent within themselves and the movies, continuity-wise (except, of course, when the movies contradicted something and they had to explain it away.)

Not to presume to speak for Bryan, but I think he meant continuity re: the films. I think a better description is that they existed in two separate spheres and Lucas never intended to allow himself to be hemmed in by anything created by anyone other than him. And sometimes including himself. As a result, you'd end up with inconsistencies between novels and films (or TV shows or whathaveyou) that need to be explained away somehow. I think because Lucas could trump anything, that kind of allowed a more free hand in the writing process, which resulted in stories that were all over the place, particularly in the mid-to-late 90s.

I think the important thing to remember -- and something that, understandably, is taking some getting used to -- is that, going forward, that won't be the case. There will never be a hierarchy of canonical sources in the future, where films trump TV shows which trump books and comics, which trump video games, etc., unless otherwise stated. All sources will now be equal in their canonicity. Nothing will trump anything else. If it gets written into a comic book taking place between Episode VII and Episode VIII, it's just as canonical and binding on Episode VIII as Episode VII was. If it's a video game that depicts how Chewbacca wound up as first mate on the Falcon, it's canon, and binding on ALL material moving forward. The books, comics, video games, TV shows, films, all of it is being told from a single story. Or, at least, that's the plan. We'll see how well that works. It's certainly ambitious, but not impossible.

I'm hoping this also signals a shift in target markets. In the past, my sense is that the novels and comic books were created for a very niche market -- the hardest of the hardcore Star Wars fans, and consequently, the group least likely to say "Man, this stuff is GARBAGE" and stop reading. As such, I don't think it mattered much to the people in control of the brand that the material being put out...shall we say...covered a rather broad spectrum in terms of quality. I'd like to think that the new goal is to radically expand the market of people who consume stuff other than the films and TV shows. As a result, they may be a LOT more careful about putting out quality material, rather than just licensing the use of the logo to any ******* who's willing to pay. Certainly with respect to a lot of the entertainment software developed by LucasArts in the last 15 years, I'd say they've had a rather laissez-faire attitude towards quality control
 
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I wonder if Andy will play a CG character. Nice to see Kenny Baker included, another bit that bodes well for practical over CG.
 
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Neat picture :thumbsup somehow reminds me of the older set pictures from four through six.

*ETA*

I like the R2 in the crate.

Looks like there's another piece of the set in there,looks like a wall from a ship...
 
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