Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Tarantino? And get to see the opening crawl half way through the film? No thanks :lol
Tarantino? And get to see the opening crawl half way through the film? No thanks :lol
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GvnHldn
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Actually on that note (Ha! "note") I was hoping that Abrams would bring in Michael Giacchino to take on the score. As much as I love John Williams' older scores, I was eager to have someone else take over and take the music in a new direction, with nods to the classic overtures.
Actually on that note (Ha! "note") I was hoping that Abrams would bring in Michael Giacchino to take on the score. As much as I love John Williams' older scores, I was eager to have someone else take over and take the music in a new direction, with nods to the classic overtures.
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GvnHldn
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I just think it'd be good to bring in a new composer! I think Giacchino is a fantastic composer and seeing as he's the Bad Robot go to guy, he seemed like a sure thing.
I just think it'd be good to bring in a new composer! I think Giacchino is a fantastic composer and seeing as he's the Bad Robot go to guy, he seemed like a sure thing.
Solo4114
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The score to Trek '09 speaks otherwise of him. It as an uninspired, repetitive turd of a score, in my opinion.
The score to Trek '09 speaks otherwise of him. It as an uninspired, repetitive turd of a score, in my opinion.
Probe Droid
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Agreed. Either of these guys would be a disaster.
Agreed. Either of these guys would be a disaster.
rodneyfaile
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Woody Allen or Wes Anderson?
Woody Allen or Wes Anderson?
GvnHldn
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
What about Edgar Wright? Han and Chewie on the couch playing Battlefront!
What about Edgar Wright? Han and Chewie on the couch playing Battlefront!
seelsa73
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I'm wondering what saber Luke will have in the movie. Will we get the hero version or the V2 or something new?
+1. If John Williams is willing and available to score a Star Wars movie (or any movie for that matter), you get John Williams. That's like settling for Joe's Crab Shack to cater your wedding when you can get Rachel Rae for the same price. (Not that this would happen, but you get what i mean)
I'm wondering what saber Luke will have in the movie. Will we get the hero version or the V2 or something new?
Lutso
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I agree on getting someone besides Williams. Not Giachinno, but someone else. While still an incredibly talented composer, I think Williams lacks the original touch that he did when scoring the OT. The prequels had moments that were really fantastic, but in the overall scope of most of the music (dialogue scenes, for example) the music is really quite bland and...well, uninspired. Of the three prequels the only one I actually listen to is ROTS, and even then there's plenty of tracks I will skip over.
When I watched Kingdom of the Crystal Skull though, that's when I started to think Williams was losing his grip. Pretty much all of that soundtrack sounded like an over-cued Looney Toons cartoon. It was embarassing. And the parts that didn't? Well...they were cues from the previous movies. I know what you're thinking...but Lutso, the movie was bad, so therefore he COULDN'T make a good score from it. Really? I don't think that's how it works.
I say give someone else a shot at it. There are so many talented composers out there who are following in John Williams' footsteps and looking up to him as a role model, and they'll never get a chance for recognition.
To me this doesn't seem like any different of an issue than wanting Han Solo in the new movies. Why? Just so we can say "oh, he was in the original films, cool!" That's pointless. There needs to be a balance met between making these films in the "spirit" of the originals, while being new and original at the same time. Otherwise we're just cloning. And we all know how badly anything to do with Clones goes...
The guy that did the soundtrack for SW:TOR comes to mind, whoever he is. As terrible as that game was, he did an outstanding work in that department (that ties in to my point above too). That music sounded more like Star Wars than most of the prequel soundtracks did. IMO. Check it out:
Star Wars: The Old Republic Soundtrack - 06 Peace, The Jedi Consular - YouTube
Star Wars: The Old Republic Soundtrack - 01 Clash of Destiny - YouTube
Flame on.
I agree on getting someone besides Williams. Not Giachinno, but someone else. While still an incredibly talented composer, I think Williams lacks the original touch that he did when scoring the OT. The prequels had moments that were really fantastic, but in the overall scope of most of the music (dialogue scenes, for example) the music is really quite bland and...well, uninspired. Of the three prequels the only one I actually listen to is ROTS, and even then there's plenty of tracks I will skip over.
When I watched Kingdom of the Crystal Skull though, that's when I started to think Williams was losing his grip. Pretty much all of that soundtrack sounded like an over-cued Looney Toons cartoon. It was embarassing. And the parts that didn't? Well...they were cues from the previous movies. I know what you're thinking...but Lutso, the movie was bad, so therefore he COULDN'T make a good score from it. Really? I don't think that's how it works.
I say give someone else a shot at it. There are so many talented composers out there who are following in John Williams' footsteps and looking up to him as a role model, and they'll never get a chance for recognition.
To me this doesn't seem like any different of an issue than wanting Han Solo in the new movies. Why? Just so we can say "oh, he was in the original films, cool!" That's pointless. There needs to be a balance met between making these films in the "spirit" of the originals, while being new and original at the same time. Otherwise we're just cloning. And we all know how badly anything to do with Clones goes...
The guy that did the soundtrack for SW:TOR comes to mind, whoever he is. As terrible as that game was, he did an outstanding work in that department (that ties in to my point above too). That music sounded more like Star Wars than most of the prequel soundtracks did. IMO. Check it out:
Star Wars: The Old Republic Soundtrack - 06 Peace, The Jedi Consular - YouTube
Star Wars: The Old Republic Soundtrack - 01 Clash of Destiny - YouTube
Flame on.
Solo4114
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Yeah, I've enjoyed his stuff a great deal. Although the thing about TV guys is that they're great at setting a mood, but not necessarily creating a moment that you remember purely based on music.
Like, if you heard a given piece of music from Galactica, would you be able to recall that it was the piece they used when they did the air-jump with the ship? You might get that "Oh, that's totally a bit from Galactica" but you wouldn't necessarily be able to tie it to a given specific moment.
For me, Williams' stuff -- his earlier stuff anyway -- is absolutely like that. The Star Wars soundtracks and Indy soundtracks, all those moments are etched into my mind to the point where I can just hear the music and recreate the scene in my mind verbatim.
I've not seen any music from Giachinno or McCreary that I could do the same with.
Some of that may be more due to teh format in which they work, where you have such a volume of material that you don't get to do things like play with themes. But at least with Giachinno, the ST09 theme that he did reuse was just...awful. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me, honestly. McCreary I haven't seen him work in a single story taht's long-form enough.
All that said, though, I find myself enjoying television stories far more than films these days, if only because they seem capable of telling a richer, fuller tale. Within that setting, McCreary is dynamite.
Yeah, I've enjoyed his stuff a great deal. Although the thing about TV guys is that they're great at setting a mood, but not necessarily creating a moment that you remember purely based on music.
Like, if you heard a given piece of music from Galactica, would you be able to recall that it was the piece they used when they did the air-jump with the ship? You might get that "Oh, that's totally a bit from Galactica" but you wouldn't necessarily be able to tie it to a given specific moment.
For me, Williams' stuff -- his earlier stuff anyway -- is absolutely like that. The Star Wars soundtracks and Indy soundtracks, all those moments are etched into my mind to the point where I can just hear the music and recreate the scene in my mind verbatim.
I've not seen any music from Giachinno or McCreary that I could do the same with.
Some of that may be more due to teh format in which they work, where you have such a volume of material that you don't get to do things like play with themes. But at least with Giachinno, the ST09 theme that he did reuse was just...awful. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me, honestly. McCreary I haven't seen him work in a single story taht's long-form enough.
All that said, though, I find myself enjoying television stories far more than films these days, if only because they seem capable of telling a richer, fuller tale. Within that setting, McCreary is dynamite.
niennumb1
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Here's the story....
Disney Exec Tweets About Star Wars Release Plans? - Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors
Here's the story....
Disney Exec Tweets About Star Wars Release Plans? - Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Wasn't ANH originally intended for a December release? Maybe its a good omen.
Wasn't ANH originally intended for a December release? Maybe its a good omen.
gonk27
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Open auditions for Star Wars begin later this week!
Star Wars: open auditions held for new movies - MSN Entertainment UK
Open auditions for Star Wars begin later this week!
Star Wars: open auditions held for new movies - MSN Entertainment UK
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Actually, I think they are pretty deep into all aspects of production. If you read the press release from LucasFilm regarding JJ and Kasdan taking over screenwriting and all the other people named, it seems clear a lot is happening. I bet most major casting is done, they are just waiting to make those announcements.
Actually, I think they are pretty deep into all aspects of production. If you read the press release from LucasFilm regarding JJ and Kasdan taking over screenwriting and all the other people named, it seems clear a lot is happening. I bet most major casting is done, they are just waiting to make those announcements.
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