Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[blewis17]

Mark Hamill gets in TFA Stormtrooper armor

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/12/mark-hamill-goes-undercover-in-latest-force-for-change-video/

 

[scarf man]

Mark Hamill on hollywood blvd. dressed as a stormtrooper!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7BwIyNN9rs&feature=youtu.be

Edit: missed being first by a few seconds!

 

[robn1]

Sorry,....it was 81 on the re-release of SW after ESB

Link to the post on the previous page: #15450

All I can say is the source is wrong, I saw it prior to ESB, and I remember discussing it with friends at the time.

 

[annanake]

I just searched for my old VHS 3 in one I have been carrying on about and dusted off an old VHS player( had to rewind oh the good old days) anyway there was no episode anything or a new hope anything and that VHS did not come out till 82 so they must have used the original print on it as well .

slightly off topic but has anyone actually watched A NEW HOPE on blu ray since Disney took over I thought I was crazy so I have not mentioned it before, but as I was looking at the old movies already I got the STAR WARS SAGA box set out on blu ray and put ANH in a PS3 and sure enough it is as I remembered they kind of fixed the whole Han shot first thing (you have to let the disc update via internet ) just as I thought I noticed last time I watched it sure enough Han blasts Greedo first and Greedo's gun goes off as he is shot hitting even further away from Han than GL's second version there is no funny Han head jerk or nothing .HAN shots and as Greedo is hit his gun fires off like 2 or three feet from Han's head so everyone can calm down about that as well .

 

[annanake]

actually if you frame by frame it Greedo's laser is 6 inches from his barrel as Han shoots so they just speed it up a bit and took out the head jerk they also make Greedo's blast ricochet off the wall instead of the make a hole and burn mark so it is more like they shot at the same time with Greedo being slightly faster on the trigger pull still a lot better than the akward GL 2nd version

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anyway back to THE FORCE AWAKENS

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or VII if you like

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

Oh my god, I can't believe how long this has gone on.

- The original release of Star Wars in'77 had no episode number or subtitle. The opening crawl started with "It is a period of civil war." Et cetera. From late '77 into '78, as pre-production on "Star Wars 2" got underway, George revisited his Ben Kenobi era notes and decided there was only enough material there for three films, rather than six, and the twelve-movie saga became a nine-movie saga in interviews, and Star Wars 2 officially became "Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back". Star Wars was re-released several times in theaters in '78 and '79, and somewhere in there the "Episode IV: A New Hope" got added -- but just tacked on, so now the opening crawl in that film "jumps its cue" compared to the rest.

- ESB and ROTJ were always Episodes V and VI, respectively, from their original release, but that was not present in the merchandising or marketing. All we saw, on posters, books, bedsheets, comics, action figures, model kits, and whatever else were this:

...or this:

The only place the episode number appeared was at the head of the opening crawl. We knew the films by their titles, or shorthand thereof: Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi.

- The emphasis on episode numbers started with the Prequels, to make sure casual viewers weren't confused into thinking these films followed on after Episode VI. It was most prominent with Phantom Menace, but only somewhat less so with Episodes II and III.

- The Force Awakens is hearkening back to when the titles were more important than the episode numbers. Fine. With. Me. Can we move on, please?

--Jonah

 

[Mr Mold Maker]

Does anyone really care whether or not the number will be in the opening crawl? I know which one it is, you know which one it is... Shut up and watch the movie for gods sake.

 

[annanake]

you just said the same thing 3 other people said and I capitulate sooo .

like I said back to THE FORCE AWAKENS

rey crying over a what seems to be a dead body.

it looks to me we see a bit of be Han's new leather jacket and some fur .

Chewie holding Han as Rey weeps over him ??? that's my take .

and how come JJ keeps saying we don't see Luke in the trailer?
we see a cloaked individual with a robotic right hand touching R2D2 as Luke says the force is strong in his family me pappy myself my sis and YOU have it totally implying it is LUKE I guess we don't see his face but that sure looks and is implied to be him

 

[annanake]

if only Lucas would have gotten the rights to Flash Gordon . where would we all be today lol

 

[Laspector]

Mark Hamill gets in TFA Stormtrooper armor

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/12/mark-hamill-goes-undercover-in-latest-force-for-change-video/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7BwIyNN9rs

Mark is just too cool...No way around it, the guy is awesome.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

you just said the same thing 3 other people said and I capitulate sooo

Not just you. Everyone had been hammering on about it for a couple pages, some with more data than others, but still. Oy.

Oh, and of course the opening crawl will start "EPISODE VII - THE FORCE AWAKENS". That's as much a given as the Star Wars fanfare. All the worriers and naysayers and humbuggers need to stop grasping at ghosts to hang their negative assessments on.

like I said back to THE FORCE AWAKENS

rey crying over a what seems to be a dead body.

it looks to me we see a bit of be Han's new leather jacket and some fur .

Chewie holding Han as Rey weeps over him ??? that's my take

Been over that ages ago when the first full trailer came out. It's Finn, he's not dead, and it most likely follows when we see him go up against Kylo. The rest is rumors and spoilers.

and how come JJ keeps saying we don't see Luke in the trailer?
we see a cloaked individual with a robotic right hand touching R2D2 as Luke says the force is strong in his family me pappy myself my sis and YOU have it totally implying it is LUKE I guess we don't see his face but that sure looks and is implied to be him

Ennhhh... Okay, I'll grant that, but a glimpse of a hooded figure with an artificial hand isn't really "seeing Luke" -- he's not fighting a wampa with a lightsaber or doing flips in a swamp or swinging on a rope from a sail barge. No clarity, no narrative context, no action, not even his face. For all intents and purposes, we haven't really seen Luke in the trailers. Less of him than any other main or secondary character, except Maz or Snoke. We've even seen more of Hux than Luke.

--Jonah

 

[Bryancd]

Oh my god, I can't believe how long this has gone on.

- The original release of Star Wars in'77 had no episode number or subtitle. The opening crawl started with "It is a period of civil war." Et cetera. From late '77 into '78, as pre-production on "Star Wars 2" got underway, George revisited his Ben Kenobi era notes and decided there was only enough material there for three films, rather than six, and the twelve-movie saga became a nine-movie saga in interviews, and Star Wars 2 officially became "Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back". Star Wars was re-released several times in theaters in '78 and '79, and somewhere in there the "Episode IV: A New Hope" got added -- but just tacked on, so now the opening crawl in that film "jumps its cue" compared to the rest.

- ESB and ROTJ were always Episodes V and VI, respectively, from their original release, but that was not present in the merchandising or marketing. All we saw, on posters, books, bedsheets, comics, action figures, model kits, and whatever else were this:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...-wars-episode-v---the-empire-strikes-back.png

...or this:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...Star-wars-episode-vi---return-of-the-jedi.png

The only place the episode number appeared was at the head of the opening crawl. We knew the films by their titles, or shorthand thereof: Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi.

- The emphasis on episode numbers started with the Prequels, to make sure casual viewers weren't confused into thinking these films followed on after Episode VI. It was most prominent with Phantom Menace, but only somewhat less so with Episodes II and III.

- The Force Awakens is hearkening back to when the titles were more important than the episode numbers. Fine. With. Me. Can we move on, please?

--Jonah

Thank you, I knew that's how it went. I had a feeling the Wiki entry was wrong but was too lazy to research it. I knew 100% ESB had Ep. V at the front of the crawl and it was expected. And I think people were just wondering about the Episode number being included in the TFA crawl, which I say is a 100 yes it will be.

 

[annanake]

Not just you. Everyone had been hammering on about it for a couple pages, some with more data than others, but still. Oy.

Oh, and of course the opening crawl will start "EPISODE VII - THE FORCE AWAKENS". That's as much a given as the Star Wars fanfare. All the worriers and naysayers and humbuggers need to stop grasping at ghosts to hang their negative assessments on.

I have no doubt it will have VII in it but if it did not who cares ? my part in this debacle was just saying it has not always been a part and apparently my memories of it are wrong according to wiki so I must be mistaken. that is why I acquiesce and don't say "oh your right"



Been over that ages ago when the first full trailer came out. It's Finn, he's not dead, and it most likely follows when we see him go up against Kylo. The rest is rumors and spoilers.

we know? how did we figure that out ? don't tell me don't care. ill wait .



Ennhhh... Okay, I'll grant that, but a glimpse of a hooded figure with an artificial hand isn't really "seeing Luke" -- he's not fighting a wampa with a lightsaber or doing flips in a swamp or swinging on a rope from a sail barge. No clarity, no narrative context, no action, not even his face. For all intents and purposes, we haven't really seen Luke in the trailers. Less of him than any other main or secondary character, except Maz or Snoke. We've even seen more of Hux than Luke.

yeah I have been granted something whoo whoo .

--Jonah

I hope against hope that the reason we haven't "seen" Luke is because he is dark now like Yoda warned him about constantly during his 3 day weekend training session and yet he did everything they told him not to do and did everything the emperor told him to do to come to the dark side except kill his father . he was even wearing all black man he was slipping just like his papaw and he did not know it just like his papaw. truthfully if Luke is Jedi still it will ruin the movie for me. it means you don't need much training you can use the dark side you can use fear and anger when you need and still be Jedi .

 

[Jaitea]

All I can say is the source is wrong, I saw it prior to ESB, and I remember discussing it with friends at the time.

Use the source,.....you know its true

I remember not seeing it till the film was re-issued,.....I remember not discussing it with anyone at the time

......Why would there be a re-issued print before ESB,......why would they spend all that money & time adjusting Star Wars when they were in full production with the sequel .....& release it when it had finished its run?

It was seen changed after ESB on re-issue......

J

 

[Bryancd]

Use the source,.....you know its true

I remember not seeing it till the film was re-issued,.....I remember no discussing it with anyone at the time

......Why would there be a re-issued print before ESB,......why would they spend all that money & time adjusting Star Wars when they were in full production with the sequel .....& release it when it had finished its run?

It was seen changed after ESB on re-issue......

J

All they added was the title card saying Episode IV A New Hope. And they did so before ESB came out. Didn't Rinzler talk about this?

 

[kristen jones]

I hope against hope that the reason we haven't "seen" Luke is because he is dark now like Yoda warned him about constantly during his 3 day weekend training session and yet he did everything they told him not to do and did everything the emperor told him to do to come to the dark side except kill his father . he was even wearing all black man he was slipping just like his papaw and he did not know it just like his papaw. truthfully if Luke is Jedi still it will ruin the movie for me. it means you don't need much training you can use the dark side you can use fear and anger when you need and still be Jedi .

We had this discussion with you before... I'm surprised you're bringing it up again.

 

[annanake]

leave me my dream !

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well why haven't we "seen luke then???????

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we know what mark Hamill looks like its not like they have another actor playing him or something

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and we have had 620 pages of the same dozen points it's not my fault Luke is the worst Jedi ever or the best if he can just grab a saber and carry Yoda around for a bit and hes good to go

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I hope we see Jar-Jar opening up a Zui quan school as well

 

[Jaitea]

All they added was the title card saying Episode IV A New Hope. And they did so before ESB came out. Didn't Rinzler talk about this?

False memory

More sources:

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.c...en-did-the-first-star-wars-become-episode-iv/

http://screenrant.com/star-wars-movies-secrets-trivia-facts/

J

 

[astroboy]

Great news! I was just offered free tickets for the 19th from volkswagen.

Thanks volkswagen. That totally makes up for everything.......
:rollseyes:

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[Axlotl]

... it's not my fault Luke is the worst Jedi ever or the best if he can just grab a saber and carry Yoda around for a bit and hes good to go

Umm... did you SEE the movies?
Luke was clearly not a good Jedi.
Vader handed his butt to him in ESB, and he pretty well botched Han's rescue, getting EVERYBODY captured.
Then he almost died taking on the Emperor.
It was Luke's HEART that won the day in ROTJ - not his "mad saber skillz".