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[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Hate to tell you guys but GL has been very involved in the story direction of CLONE WARS and as such it is considered to be nearly as canonical as the films according to LucasFilm. It'e been very clearly stated in interviews and on the official site. The CLONE WARS seasons aren't meant to be a full year of the war, so they will have 6 seasons covering the 3 year war.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Actually George told them to resurrect Maul.

Darth Maul Lives! 'Star Wars: The Clone Wars' shows his life after vivisection | Inside TV | EW.com

And George met regularly with the Clone Wars team to discuss story points.

This is just one example of GL's involvement. I have all 3 CW Blurays and in the extra features it's filled with meeting and conversations with GL and Dave Filoni discussing the show and it's direction and stories. You may not like the CLONE WARS, but they are GL level canon, the EU is not.

I'm not suggesting we will see Boba Fett, I am simply pointing out his "death" could easily be altered and he could be resurrected and there is a real whorl GL approved example of that happening.

 

[Astrokid248]

The Clone Wars is not a movie. The Clone Wars is a television program that has a significant amount of hours to fill, an audience to build and is not created from the notes of George Lucas.

It is in within the realm of possibility we'll see Boba Fett in VII - but it's just as likely we'll see Greedo resurrected to seek revenge on Solo.

I think you don't understand the mechanics of a Star Wars story. Free do can't come back. He was never a credible threat to begin with. Boba Fett, like Darth Maul, was a fan favorite who posed a threat to the heroes and therefore has a greater chance of returning to establish a new danger.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

It's not a question of which characters are credible, all that matters is what GL wants to do creatively. He wanted to bring Maul back so he came back.

 

[Edwardowan]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I totally agree......also, weren't the Clone Wars 3 years long? Then how come the cartoons are now on season 5? (5 years) ...or are we expected to believe that all this outlandish, indulgent animation is squeezed into a 3 year period?

Linear thinking... one season does not equal a year in battle, nor is one season even a year as there are only 22 episodes per season!
so that would only be 22 days of adventure within a year's time... so in 5 seasons we'll have only had 110 episodes which isn't even a year of war yet! If we were to see 365 days of battle we would have had 1825 episodes by now!

from the wiki it says Star Wars creator George Lucas says "there will be at least 100 episodes produced".... well,we have surpasssed that!

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

It's not a question of which characters are credible, all that matters is what GL wants to do creatively. He wanted to bring Maul back so he came back.

I think you overestimate George's creative input in the cartoon series.

It's easy to say Lucas was involved and critical to the process. Just as it's easy to say to the Clone Wars is to the Prequels as the Thrawn trilogy is the OT.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I think you overestimate George's creative input in the cartoon series.

It's easy to say Lucas was involved and critical to the process. Just as it's easy to say to the Clone Wars is to the Prequels as the Thrawn trilogy is the OT.

No, clearly you haven't been following the CLONE WARS and their production. I have no desire to try and present to you all the instances of GL direct involvement in the show, it's been VERY well documented and you are welcome to search it out but my characterization is accurate. The CLONE WARS are GL level TV canon, that's what they call it al LucasFilm. Period. That put's it ahead of the EU and directly below the films.

 

[Edwardowan]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

No, clearly you haven't been following the CLONE WARS and their production.....

agreed. not sure why anyone is arguing this. GL has had day to day input and story involvement and even wrote plot and story outlines, concepts etc and presented them. GL was more involved than he even thought he would be and he loves doing it. Even his daughter has written episodes. To me as long as GL has input then it is a GL world and canon. EU doesn't have GL fingerprints.

in the end I say, lighten up haters... its star wars fun (and a cartoon at that) :lol enjoy it and relish in the fact that we even have new star wars adventures and SW eye candy to feast upon! I love Clone Wars cartoon and its brilliant fun!

 

[Edwardowan]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I think you overestimate George's creative input in the cartoon series.

It's easy to say Lucas was involved and critical to the process. Just as it's easy to say to the Clone Wars is to the Prequels as the Thrawn trilogy is the OT.

wiki:
By February 15, 2006, Lucas Animation was working on animation tests and initial scripts, with Lucas playing a large part in the entire process.[30] Catherine Winder later revealed at Celebration IV that Lucas is mostly focused on the story, and that Lucas and Winder both work on the scripts with the writers....
While at Imagina 2007, Rob Coleman revealed that George Lucas was heavily involved in every step of the production, from script to final completion.
... The final assembly of each episode is done at Skywalker Ranch. As of August 31, Lucas' involvement had resulted in rewrites of most of the scripts, as Lucas insisted on more character development and that the show should not be based in one location, but as many as possible so as to make the story as interesting as possible to the viewer.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Look guys, this is a silly argument. My intention in bringing up Darth Maul was simply to point out there is precedent for a popular dead character being resurrected by George Lucas himself for new content. I have no expectation that Boba Fett will be brought back for the new films. perhaps he could be used in a prequel film showing his backstory at some point, maybe made for TV or in an animated form.

 

[Edwardowan]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Look guys, this is a silly argument. My intention in bringing up Darth Maul was simply to point out there is precedent for a popular dead character being resurrected by George Lucas himself for new content. I have no expectation that Boba Fett will be brought back for the new films. perhaps he could be used in a prequel film showing his backstory at some point, maybe made for TV or in an animated form.

I liked how they brought Maul back in CW. In the film he is cut in half and falls but he is strong in the dark side... do not underestimate the dark side of the force... afterall, even Anakin had his limbs lobbed off and burned at the edge of a lava pit and scorched his lungs... yet he still lived to fight another day!

who is to say Fett didn't fly out of the sarlac after blasting the interior guts of the mighty Sarlaac!? I'd love to see him again...

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

...and in theory, Lucas read and approved all the novels. The cartoon is great, but they are not the movies and Lucas can retcon those at any second just like he's retconned many other thing's that fall outside the movies.

It's glorified fan fiction... with the advantage of coming from Lucas himself.

 

[batguy]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I'm no particular Boba Fett fan. The character served a purpose but I never saw the reason for the huge fan fascination with him. It's not like the guy kicked Darth Vader's ass or something.

But I would welcome Fett showing up again in the next movies. The character has enough going for him that another appearance would not seem out of whack to me. And I find the idea of him escaping the Sarlacc pit to be pretty easy to swallow, given that he was wearing armor and a jetpack when he went in.

 

[JD]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Look guys, this is a silly argument. My intention in bringing up Darth Maul was simply to point out there is precedent for a popular dead character being resurrected by George Lucas himself for new content. I have no expectation that Boba Fett will be brought back for the new films. perhaps he could be used in a prequel film showing his backstory at some point, maybe made for TV or in an animated form.

The rumor is that the proposed live action TV program, which is said to be already mostly written, focused on Fett during the time between RotS and ANH (I think that was the time frame).

 

[Edwardowan]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

...and in theory, Lucas read and approved all the novels. The cartoon is great, but they are not the movies and Lucas can retcon those at any second just like he's retconned many other thing's that fall outside the movies.

It's glorified fan fiction... with the advantage of coming from Lucas himself.

uh, okay. :lol George Lucas is indeed a fan to be sure!
Lucas approved the eu novels but he didn't help write them as he has with CW. What GL touches is gold...well, copper... maybe shiney aluminum but its authentic pedigree GL Star Wars to me! :love

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

...and in theory, Lucas read and approved all the novels. The cartoon is great, but they are not the movies and Lucas can retcon those at any second just like he's retconned many other thing's that fall outside the movies.

It's glorified fan fiction... with the advantage of coming from Lucas himself.

I don't think he has ever read any EU novel. There is some evidence he has read some of the comics as in CLONE WARS story meeting he has mentioned elements which appeared in the comics apparently. He does seem aware of some of the content of the EU novels but there is no theory that he directly approves of their content or reads them. He simply licensed them and their content needed to be approved by his company. I just can't accept the characterization that CW is glorified fan fiction, however as it flies in the face of the reality of the program.

 

[Astrokid248]

I don't think he has ever read any EU novel. There is some evidence he has read some of the comics as in CLONE WARS story meeting he has mentioned elements which appeared in the comics apparently. He does seem aware of some of the content of the EU novels but there is no theory that he directly approves of their content or reads them. He simply licensed them and their content needed to be approved by his company. I just can't accept the characterization that CW is glorified fan fiction, however as it flies in the face of the reality of the program.

He read Zahn's novels enough to make Zahn remove certain details about Chewie and Yoda. He may not read every comic and novel but there is precedence.

 

[Edwardowan]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

quite unrealistic to believe GL would have the time or even take time to read all the EU book drafts presented to LFL. Certainly he would have trusted staff of advisors and editors to do this. He may be consulted on a few details for a yes or no (as he has with the young Han meets Chewie idea he denied for a book years ago) but I'm sure that is but one of the many small details that come across in staff meetings. meanwhile, back and the ranch.... :wacko

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Yeah, but even that instance I think he read the outline for the story and gave the ok for that. The idea he sits down and reads the whole book is what I highly doubt.

 

[Edwardowan]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

He read Zahn's novels enough to make Zahn remove certain details about Chewie and Yoda. He may not read every comic and novel but there is precedence.

a book isn't fully written first anyway... an outline and basic draft is presented then if it is okayed the book is given the go ahead. It would be a waste of the writer's time to write and edit a full novel for presentation only to have it denied for a number of reasons. There are steps that have to be taken to get a story published. So LUcas would just be advised of the basic premise, outline and draft before given full permission to run with the story. GL and or team would get an outline to consider.