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[Falk]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Nobody about that is a April 1st gag.

Well, possibly not intended, but I have no idea where the author gets his info from.

Example (Quote); "The first two weeks will be on location in Morocco... can't figure out which scenes from A New Hope were shot in Morocco, but I find a lot of people saying stuff was shot there..:") (/Quote)

Of course he can not figure out which scenes had been shot in Morocco - because there is no footage from Morocco in Star Wars! (BTW, who ever visited the Maghreb knows those two countries' landscapes differ noticeably from each other.)

I do not trust people who are unable to get the easy facts straight.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Well, possibly not intended, but I have no idea where the author gets his info from.

Example (Quote); "The first two weeks will be on location in Morocco... can't figure out which scenes from A New Hope were shot in Morocco, but I find a lot of people saying stuff was shot there..:") (/Quote)

Of course he can not figure out which scenes had been shot in Morocco - because there is no footage from Morocco in Star Wars! (BTW, who ever visited the Maghreb knows those two countries' landscapes differ noticeably from each other.)

I do not trust people who are unable to get the easy facts straight.

Yeah, that is what jumped out at me as well.

 

[Vivek]

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Typo, I meant to say "Nothing about that...". Either ways, I think the Morocco misconception for others stems from the fact that Ra di Martino's photographs have been associated with it, even though the Star Wars sets were only in Tunisia. He might have captured photos both in Morocco and Tunisia, so many began to associate Star Wars with both locations as well.

That is what the writer meant that he can not figure out which scenes had been shot in Morocco, cause many have been claiming it to be so. (Even though it's not really true).

Hauntingly Beautiful Photos of Abandoned Star Wars Set Photos from Tunisia and Morocco

Remnants of Abandoned Star Wars Sets in Morocco and Tunisia Reminiscent of Ancient Ruins

Rä di Martino's remains of an imaginary world | Photography | Agenda | Phaidon

Marvellous Morocco: Rain in the desert, grit in my omelette and a bumpy camel ride | Mail Online
Last photo description in the article.

 

[Krull]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

With all this SW talk I've been getting back into watch it,ALL of it and I'll say I didn't mind the prequels as much as others,just that I is a throw away movie,no need for it as a film and it should have been a three hour flick with II mixed in.

Beyond that I thought Hayden did as best as he could as Anakin,he just did what Lucas wanted so meh I blame Lucas more,honestly looking at the changes to the first three I can see he's a crappy director and an addled creator.

Anakin to me should have been more slick,more evil,a good guy with a very dark side that is capable of manipulating people and a habit for being violent,yet slightly naive in that the Emperor uses him fairly easy.

I wonder just where seven is going to take us,I know for sure Luke is gonna be there,but what else? who's gonna be the big bad guy? I expect a Sith but just what is going to be their angle? and what of the Empire? I doubt it's just going to have faded away,never mind that some of the planets are going to like having them around unless they go for an unreal approach.

I remember the old Marvel comics that came after Return of the Jedi and I think the idea then of a galaxy in turmoil makes sense,some of the Old Republic don't want back in and some just flat out tell them to go fug,while as I said a few should offer the Empire refuge and they're still around.

And what of the Stormtroopers? they WERE Republic clone troopers so I'd like it if a bulk of the new military are still guys in white armor with color coding like in III (the best looking troopers in my book)

So yea a lot of things could happen and I'm looking forward to it.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Tatooine probably has lots of desert environments so I'm not going all "OMG it's ruined" over that.

Well depending if they completely abandon the EU, the Imperial remnants still used Stormtroopers, though not clones.

 

[Lutso]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

And what of the Stormtroopers? they WERE Republic clone troopers so I'd like it if a bulk of the new military are still guys in white armor with color coding like in III (the best looking troopers in my book)

Stormtroopers still existed in some form for many, many years after ROTJ, though as earlier noted they were NOT Republic/Fett clones. By the time of the OT it's pretty commonly grounded that the bulk of the Imperial armies were civilian recruits.

After the New Republic was well footed, they DID have some sort of standing army that was Stormtrooperish in nature, but not quite as buckethead. More like a mix between Stormtroopers and Tantive IV crew...half-helmets, more fabric, etc. But they wore white plastic armor and all that.

I'll see if I can find some pictures somewhere....

 

[Lutso]

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Going purely off memory, I'm pretty impressed at my description earlier

 

[Krull]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Stormtroopers still existed in some form for many, many years after ROTJ, though as earlier noted they were NOT Republic/Fett clones. By the time of the OT it's pretty commonly grounded that the bulk of the Imperial armies were civilian recruits.

After the New Republic was well footed, they DID have some sort of standing army that was Stormtrooperish in nature, but not quite as buckethead. More like a mix between Stormtroopers and Tantive IV crew...half-helmets, more fabric, etc. But they wore white plastic armor and all that.

I'll see if I can find some pictures somewhere....

Here's the thing:from what I gather they're pretty much ignoring everything that was made between ROTJ and TPM;starting fresh,no? so who's to say that the Empire isn't just making new clones? they are way more loyal then any human trooper,look at order 66 no questions even though they were all buddy-buddy with the Jedi they just turned around and shot them!

I can see humans for other jobs like admirals,deck crew et cetera but for actual cannon fodder clones are easier to make do utterly suicidal crap and no problems with locals being angry for taking their families to die en mass.

Lots of reasons to keep cloning.

Now I could see them adding new stock in,Jango was fine at first but with the pesky Jedi out of the way I see no reason to not grab DNA from the best killers,mercenaries and whatnot.

And after ROTJ a clone trooper would be easier to keep up with and use then the probable mess the Rebels inherited from the Sith.

Anyway just my two cents,would like to see some white armored troopers even thirty odd years later.

 

[Riceball]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Here's the thing:from what I gather they're pretty much ignoring everything that was made between ROTJ and TPM;starting fresh,no? so who's to say that the Empire isn't just making new clones? they are way more loyal then any human trooper,look at order 66 no questions even though they were all buddy-buddy with the Jedi they just turned around and shot them!

I can see humans for other jobs like admirals,deck crew et cetera but for actual cannon fodder clones are easier to make do utterly suicidal crap and no problems with locals being angry for taking their families to die en mass.

Lots of reasons to keep cloning.

Now I could see them adding new stock in,Jango was fine at first but with the pesky Jedi out of the way I see no reason to not grab DNA from the best killers,mercenaries and whatnot.

And after ROTJ a clone trooper would be easier to keep up with and use then the probable mess the Rebels inherited from the Sith.

Anyway just my two cents,would like to see some white armored troopers even thirty odd years later.

While that may work during the reign of the Empire but post-Jedi that becomes impractical and difficult to maintain since the Empire would lack the time and resources to field a clone army; much cheaper to draft new recruits from whatever few planets that they still control, give them some quick basic training and let them loose. Clone troopers on the other hand, require access to cloning facilities (something that the Rebellion would have been quick to destroy or capture if they existed), the time to grow and train a clone, then there's the money to pay for said clones, all of which would be in short supply when you're on the losing side of a galactic civil war and losing territory (thus resources) rapidly.

 

[GiovanniDekkers]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Another April fool's prank or just another silly rumor, not officially confirmed yet?

Disney Chief Reveals 'Star Wars: VII' Casting Almost Complete, Says Film Is Already Shooting (Video) - The Hollywood Reporter

"Patience you must have!".........Yeah,screw you two!

 

[mkstewartesq]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Another April fool's prank or just another silly rumor, not officially confirmed yet?

Disney Chief Reveals 'Star Wars: VII' Casting Almost Complete, Says Film Is Already Shooting (Video) - The Hollywood Reporter

Um . . . If it's stated by the chairman of Disney, how can it be a silly rumor not officially confirmed yet? How much more "officially confirmed" do you need?

M

 

[mkstewartesq]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Double post.

 

[RougeAvenger81]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Um . . . If it's stated by the chairman of Disney, how can it be a silly rumor not officially confirmed yet? How much more "officially confirmed" do you need?

M

I kind of have to agree. I don't see the chairman of Disney pulling an April fools joke. JJ is always big on keeping things secret, so it wouldn't surprise me if things are underway with few people knowing. Doesn't get much more confirmed that they've started.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I kind of have to agree. I don't see the chairman of Disney pulling an April fools joke. JJ is always big on keeping things secret, so it wouldn't surprise me if things are underway with few people knowing. Doesn't get much more confirmed that they've started.

And besides that camera's may be rolling in some capacity, there isn't a lot of new news in what he said.

 

[RougeAvenger81]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

While that may work during the reign of the Empire but post-Jedi that becomes impractical and difficult to maintain since the Empire would lack the time and resources to field a clone army; much cheaper to draft new recruits from whatever few planets that they still control, give them some quick basic training and let them loose. Clone troopers on the other hand, require access to cloning facilities (something that the Rebellion would have been quick to destroy or capture if they existed), the time to grow and train a clone, then there's the money to pay for said clones, all of which would be in short supply when you're on the losing side of a galactic civil war and losing territory (thus resources) rapidly.

Well, clones would also get pricey, when you keep losing them a 100,000 or so at a time, along with your planet sized space station........twice.......because of an exhaust vent......that you made bigger the second time.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Um . . . If it's stated by the chairman of Disney, how can it be a silly rumor not officially confirmed yet? How much more "officially confirmed" do you need?

M

If it doesn't come out of Mickey's mouth I'm not believing it...

 

[Brent M]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Bottom line is that casting information is almost sure to leak out sometime this month so we'll know a lot more very soon. :thumbsup

 

[Krull]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Well, clones would also get pricey, when you keep losing them a 100,000 or so at a time, along with your planet sized space station........twice.......because of an exhaust vent......that you made bigger the second time.

By the time of ROTJ yea sure,I'd expect the people had their limit of Imperial nonsense;but before that,especially in the twenty three years between III and IV I'd say it's a safe bet they moved the clone operation to Coruscant and upped production.[h=2][/h]If they don't have their head up their butts (the directors and JJ) they should realize how important the clone army is to Sidious,as I said look at order 66,no questions,no qualms about shooting folks who were your close friends in some cases.

Now after? who knows,I expect the clones would be worth something to a recovering Republic,even a small force to protect the more important members of the senate or such.

And if they just brush the Empire away I'm done with SW period,there is no way in hell that an organization that large is just going to vanish after even two major defeats,sure Sidous is gone but you know there's going to be a few fanatical loyalist who are going to carry on,and again like I said a few planets who still side with them so they're not going to go away without a long drawn out fight like when they had to smash Berlin in WWII.

But in this case it's across star systems,I'd think the war could go on for hundreds of years if somebody smart took over after Sidous.....

 

[cboath]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

In 30 or so years? Yeah, they could vanish. What was left of Nazi Germany in the around 1975-80?

30 years (or longer depending on when they actually set it) is plenty of time for the imperials to be wiped away. They may still use buildings or something. But any actual factions aren't guaranteed and any remaining could very well be so small as to be insignificant. The strentgh of the empire was a massive sith lord who could show up and destroy whatever he wanted - pretty much as his own - and no one could do squat about it. Keeps the populous at bay. No palpatine, massive uprisings...

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I think it depends on what you mean by "wiped away." If you mean 30+ years after would there be an "Imperial resistance" or "Imperial remnant" like some kind of politico-military faction...then no, I don't think you'd see that necessarily. It could go either way, but I could see the Imperials being wiped out as a political force. Once the grand lie that Palpatine put forth is revealed, I think people wouldn't be too keen to sign up for the Empire.

What you might see, however, is something new, depending on how the Empire broke up. Former Imperial admirals and generals starting private armies or political parties, or getting involved in organized crime...that I could see happening. And the equipment they had, I could see that, too, being kept around for a while. I think you'd feel the impact of the Empire, if not necessarily there being some faction out there called "The Empire" or "The Imperial Remnant" or whatever.

As for Nazi Germany, it's not as if all their equipment was destroyed immediately upon the end of the war. Some former Wehrmacht guys wound up in the East German Stasi, others like the scientists were grabbed up by the Soviets and the Americans, etc. And look at Communism. 30 years on, we may not have the Red Army marching through Red Square, but we've got guys like Putin -- a former communist -- and a whole ton of oligarchs and organized crime guys who are ex KGB and Russian military. Again, just because the government changes doesn't mean the people disappear.