Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release)

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I just feel that it is the Star Wars Universe and the Universe is a very large place. I think there should be room for it all because there are so many great stories and personalities to draw from. IMHO. Of course I might also be in the minority because I was hoping that they would let Zahn or Anderson do the screenplay.

There's good stuff, sure, but also a lot of mediocre garbage and worse. Plus, with a world this varied, there needs to be SOME official statement on what is canon and what is apocrypha. Particularly given that we'll be dealing with stuff that happens after ROTJ, you have to ask whether everything CAN survive.

In the end, you have to consider that Disney is going to still give priority to the films. The films are the fuel for the engine overall. The films are where all of fandom starts. Nobody became a Star Wars fan because they picked up and loved a copy of Super Bombad Racing or The Force Unleashed. They became fans because they saw the films. So, in a sense, the films will always be given precedence in terms of designing the story. I just think Disney will be a lot more careful about doing so than LucasFilm was. That's where the story group comes in.


I think Disney recognizes that Star Wars is not JUST films, but because the films drive the rest of the franchise, they need to make sure that they don't paint themselves into a corner by putting out other materials that end up having to be retconned by films. I think they recognize that doing so will weaken the brand, and Disney fully understands the importance of the brand.


So, I think you'll get one moment where the whole Star Wars universe changes and some of the old stuff (particularly the post-ROTJ stuff) will be deemed apocryphal, and after that, EVERYTHING is canon. That means they need continuity minders so that we don't end up with a future film that contradicts some bit from one of the books or a game or whathaveyou.

 

[drcraig13]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Solo4114 I can't argue with anything that you said. It is 100% correct. I just think it is 100% correct for people like us. The vast majority of people out there only know the movies. 90% plus don't know who Mara Jade or Starkiller are. While I completely agree that they have to protect the brand and they will/need to establish Canon. I just feel IMO that establishing Canon affects us more than the majority of the movie audience.

 

[joshvanrad]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

If they change the ABY stuff they are going to destroy the credit of my Star Wars Saga Edition RPG... AND THAT'S A BIG DEAL!!!

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Here is the team of experts who will decide cannon.

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Not cool, man! Porkins is a hero! He died for the cause!

 

[Solo4114]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

@Solo4114 I can't argue with anything that you said. It is 100% correct. I just think it is 100% correct for people like us. The vast majority of people out there only know the movies. 90% plus don't know who Mara Jade or Starkiller are. While I completely agree that they have to protect the brand and they will/need to establish Canon. I just feel IMO that establishing Canon affects us more than the majority of the movie audience.

I think it's a range of fans, really. You have the hardest of the hardcore who consume EVERYTHING. Then you have fans who consume some EU stuff, but not all of it. Then you have fans who know next to nothing about the EU and don't really care about it. But you've also got a generation of kids who grew up on Clone Wars stuff, including two different cartoons, tons of comic books, novels, etc. I think that stuff is probably a lot more solid than the post-ANH stuff (and especially post ROTJ), but it's still an open question whether this or that cartoon will still "count," depending on which direction they want to go with future material -- which could also include prequel/backstory info for characters (e.g., Young Han Solo, or Yoda in a spin-off film, or whathaveyou).

So, even though the vast majority of people out there only know Star Wars from the films, you've still got a broad range of consumers who know more about it. That's the target market for future material outside the films. That's who they're selling the brand to. It's not just the film tickets. It's the video games, action figures, comic books, novels, audio dramas, TV shows, etc., etc., etc. The casual viewers won't buy that stuff. The fans -- the ones who demand a certain degree of continuity -- will. So, from that perspective, they need to really watch the details on continuity and canon, and that means some stuff is gonna stay, and some is gonna go. Particularly if the stuff that goes would've conflicted with Disney's plans for the future of the franchise.

Since they're apparently doing a new trilogy featuring the OT characters (at the very least as supporting roles), that means the whole of the post-ROTJ EU material has a massive question-mark hovering over it. Personally, I always figured they'd just skip a couple generations past the EU stuff and do a whole new story featuring all new characters, and maybe allude here and there to the backstory in vague enough terms that the EU could stand, but it wasn't necessarily controlling the new story because you were far enough removed from it. (Although I'd still retcon the Borg...er...Vong out of it..., but that's just me.) But hey, that's not the direction they went, so now we gotta sort out what stays and what goes.

 

[Riceball]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I don't care what they do so long as the Holiday Special, the droids & Ewok cartoons, and the appearance on the Muppet Show are still considered canon.

 

[Edraven99]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I think they're treading on thin water with this move. They'd be undoing A LOT of people's work. I think there will be a riot though if they terminate the Vhong wars series...

Dear Lord... that was one thing I was hoping they *would* flush... a twenty book story arc rife with character and plot inconsistencies with an extremely weak conclusion

 

[ghostryder]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

'Breaking Bad's' Jesse Plemons Eyed for Lead in 'Star Wars: Episode VII' (Exclusive) - TheWrap

 

[jim fred]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Todd ! Really ? Umm........

 

[Davy Jones]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I saw two people comment on this on another site and they are saying things like "one assumes he will play Luke 's son due to his resemblance to a young Mark Hamill." And "wow he really looks like Mark Hamill"

How blind are people ? I don't see any resemblance. The big mouth is the only feature that I think is remotely similar.

Not even saying he wouldn't be be in the movie. But Luke 's son based on his remarkable resemblance? God I hope they aren't actually that blind.

 

[hansicle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Maybe a little post OP Luke, but put him next to a ANH Luke, and ...no....

 

[The Terminator]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Why not just go with... unknowns?

How blind are people ?

Very blind.

 

[joshvanrad]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I'd prefer the lead roles go to relatively unknown actors.

 

[Bryancd]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

He was pretty solid in Breaking Bad.

 

[robstyle]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

call backs dont mean they are cast. Regardless, he is relativistically unknown. and no I have no clue what that word is or means but its what my spell checker auto changed it to so im sticking to it.

 

[CB2001]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Todd ! Really ? Umm........

Ordy from Battleship.

 

[Zombie_61]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I saw two people comment on this on another site and they are saying things like "one assumes he will play Luke 's son due to his resemblance to a young Mark Hamill." And "wow he really looks like Mark Hamill"

How blind are people ? I don't see any resemblance. The big mouth is the only feature that I think is remotely similar.

Not even saying he wouldn't be be in the movie. But Luke 's son based on his remarkable resemblance? God I hope they aren't actually that blind.

Are you kidding? He looks exactly like Luke...in that alternate universe in which Luke was played by Matt Damon.

 

[BlobVanDam]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I saw two people comment on this on another site and they are saying things like "one assumes he will play Luke 's son due to his resemblance to a young Mark Hamill." And "wow he really looks like Mark Hamill"

How blind are people ? I don't see any resemblance. The big mouth is the only feature that I think is remotely similar.

Not even saying he wouldn't be be in the movie. But Luke 's son based on his remarkable resemblance? God I hope they aren't actually that blind.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it either. Even if I squint really hard, I can't convince myself there's any resemblance of those features. :facepalm

 

[Jaitea]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I'd say the best guidance to imagine what Luke's son would look like would be to look at Nathan or Griffin Hamill

Harrison Ford's sons, Benjamin & Willard.....(Malcolm looks nothing like his Dad....Melissa Mathison's genes must have been stronger than Harrison's :behave)

J

 

[ixtore]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Does Luke marry? Wouldn't it more likely be Solo's son?
It would fit better, for me, if Skywalker had led a solitary life a la Yoda and Obiwan.

 

[seelsa73]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII

It would fit better, for me, if Skywalker had led a solitary life a la Yoda and Obiwan.

So you want Luke to have knowingly and willingly abandoned everything he has been taught, all of his friends, his sister, and go off and become a hermit, never to be seen again? That's WAY out of line of the character we saw by the end of ROTJ.

But I can see it now:

Luke: **** Yoda, he told me to pass on what I've learned, but I don't wanna. I'm going over here. Don't disturb me...ever."

Leia: But...Luke, I --

Luke: Ah ah, what did I just say? Go, leave me be.