Brent M
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
My opinion is that you're so far off base you're not even in the stadium.
My opinion is that you're so far off base you're not even in the stadium.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Personally, I'm not a 'hater', that's silly, I can't hate anyone I don't know. I'm sure he's a stand up guy.
I just don't take him or his work seriously. He makes movies that generate a lot of revenue for the studios and that's why he's got a long future ahead of him.
Really, I guess we shouldn't be surprised that he has been chosen.
Disney needs to ensure that they choose a director that will draw in lots of crowds so that they can continue to finance more future Star Wars products, with or without JJ Abrams at the helm of any additional future SW movies. The 4.0 billion they paid Lucas is a lot of money and they want to ensure they earn it back.
Personally, I'm not a 'hater', that's silly, I can't hate anyone I don't know. I'm sure he's a stand up guy.
I just don't take him or his work seriously. He makes movies that generate a lot of revenue for the studios and that's why he's got a long future ahead of him.
Really, I guess we shouldn't be surprised that he has been chosen.
Disney needs to ensure that they choose a director that will draw in lots of crowds so that they can continue to finance more future Star Wars products, with or without JJ Abrams at the helm of any additional future SW movies. The 4.0 billion they paid Lucas is a lot of money and they want to ensure they earn it back.
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CB2001
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I've got two good reasons. They're called Mission: Impossible 3 and Star Trek. MI:3 was worse than MI:2. Star Trek was nothing more than him riding the fence, meaning he didn't have the guts to do a complete reworking or the guts to do a film that was true to the franchise, and used the time travel idea to try and hide the fact that he didn't have the guts to make a choice (as a result, the film suffers terribly across the board).
So, my "hating" as you call it, isn't without a good reason.
I'm sorry, who are you? :confused
I've got two good reasons. They're called Mission: Impossible 3 and Star Trek. MI:3 was worse than MI:2. Star Trek was nothing more than him riding the fence, meaning he didn't have the guts to do a complete reworking or the guts to do a film that was true to the franchise, and used the time travel idea to try and hide the fact that he didn't have the guts to make a choice (as a result, the film suffers terribly across the board).
So, my "hating" as you call it, isn't without a good reason.
I'm sorry, who are you? :confused
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I get your meaning, sir.
My take on this is one of wait-and-see. I liked his Star Trek movie. I didn't love it, because it didn't really *feel* like Star Trek. Perhaps that's because he, according to his own admission, was not a Trek fan growing up.
But he was a Star Wars fan. So I'm hopeful he'll do the Star Wars OT justice, and turn out a really good Episode VII.
The Wook
ps~thank God I didn't read today, "Ben Affleck to direct Star Wars!"!!
pps~Whedon would've made me feel comfortable, confident.
ppps~Johnston would've intrigued and excited me the most, as he was there from the beginning, and his fingerprints are all over the OT.
I get your meaning, sir.
My take on this is one of wait-and-see. I liked his Star Trek movie. I didn't love it, because it didn't really *feel* like Star Trek. Perhaps that's because he, according to his own admission, was not a Trek fan growing up.
But he was a Star Wars fan. So I'm hopeful he'll do the Star Wars OT justice, and turn out a really good Episode VII.
The Wook
ps~thank God I didn't read today, "Ben Affleck to direct Star Wars!"!!
pps~Whedon would've made me feel comfortable, confident.
ppps~Johnston would've intrigued and excited me the most, as he was there from the beginning, and his fingerprints are all over the OT.
DARTH SABER
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I think JJ was a good choice.
Hes a Star Wars fan, he definitely has an eye for recreating the filming style of the 70's (Super 8), and despite what the opinions are on here, every one of his films has made a hefty profit and has garnered positive critical acclaim.
I think JJ was a good choice.
Hes a Star Wars fan, he definitely has an eye for recreating the filming style of the 70's (Super 8), and despite what the opinions are on here, every one of his films has made a hefty profit and has garnered positive critical acclaim.
DARTH SABER
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
And how exactly does one make revenue unless the movie goers enjoy the film and actually plunk down money to watch it?
So, his films make money, they are enjoyed by the movie goers, and they have all received hi marks from critics....What other consensus is there?
And how exactly does one make revenue unless the movie goers enjoy the film and actually plunk down money to watch it?
So, his films make money, they are enjoyed by the movie goers, and they have all received hi marks from critics....What other consensus is there?
Brent M
Sr Member
CB2001
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
No, seriously, who are you? I don't think we've met before on here.
No, seriously, who are you? I don't think we've met before on here.
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I was personally hoping for Matthew Vaughn, but it just goes to show you that NO MATTER WHO IS CHOSEN TO DIRECT, WRITE, OR ACT IN A NEW STAR WARS FILM WILL INEVITABLY **** A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF.
That said, I know they could have picked worse directors. But they could have easily picked better. I think Disney is simply playing it safe. They'll also likely have a different director per film so as to keep the films fresh. As long as the script is strong and the production is one cohesive unit, we might actually end up with a worthy sequel.
I was personally hoping for Matthew Vaughn, but it just goes to show you that NO MATTER WHO IS CHOSEN TO DIRECT, WRITE, OR ACT IN A NEW STAR WARS FILM WILL INEVITABLY **** A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF.
That said, I know they could have picked worse directors. But they could have easily picked better. I think Disney is simply playing it safe. They'll also likely have a different director per film so as to keep the films fresh. As long as the script is strong and the production is one cohesive unit, we might actually end up with a worthy sequel.
tgreco
Sr Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
I read back a page and didn't see a mention, so ,apologies for the obvious post... but I'm just going to say it. Star Wars is dead.
J.J. may be a fan of Star Wars, but he is also going to put his very obvious stamp on it, so while it may be Star Wars in name, it's not going to be Star Wars, it's going to be J.J. Abrams presents - Star Wars* - Disney TM. And he's setting the tone for the next trilogy of films. So be prepared for overly sentimental, over the top, makes no sense J.J. Wars.
I understand why the studios picked him. He took the "dead" Star Trek franchise, redid it, and it made money. That's what Disney cares about. Box office reciepts. They don't care if the existing fans don't like it. They plunked down their $18.50 to watch it in 3D 48FPS super digi IMAX, and most will go see i, even if it's only out of curiosity.
They should have gone with a different director, if for no other reason than to make sure that it would be a different vision than Star Trek.
No, I take that back... They should have just left it alone. I know a lot of people are excited for this, but for me, this is the hemogenization of what audiences consider Sci-fi.
They can keep it.
dude, what do you think we've been discussing for the last three pages over the last three hours!!!! :rolleyes
I read back a page and didn't see a mention, so ,apologies for the obvious post... but I'm just going to say it. Star Wars is dead.
J.J. may be a fan of Star Wars, but he is also going to put his very obvious stamp on it, so while it may be Star Wars in name, it's not going to be Star Wars, it's going to be J.J. Abrams presents - Star Wars* - Disney TM. And he's setting the tone for the next trilogy of films. So be prepared for overly sentimental, over the top, makes no sense J.J. Wars.
I understand why the studios picked him. He took the "dead" Star Trek franchise, redid it, and it made money. That's what Disney cares about. Box office reciepts. They don't care if the existing fans don't like it. They plunked down their $18.50 to watch it in 3D 48FPS super digi IMAX, and most will go see i, even if it's only out of curiosity.
They should have gone with a different director, if for no other reason than to make sure that it would be a different vision than Star Trek.
No, I take that back... They should have just left it alone. I know a lot of people are excited for this, but for me, this is the hemogenization of what audiences consider Sci-fi.
They can keep it.
CB2001
Master Member
El Duderino
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Well I can't say I disagree.
I'm just not a fan of JJ's work. I find his movies and TV stuff very forgettable and average run-of-the-mill.
There are many other directors who I'm sure would be quite capable of directing a Star Wars movie.
Hey, why not James Cameron? Titanic and Avatar made a lot of money too, they were enjoyed by fans and received high marks.
Well I can't say I disagree.
I'm just not a fan of JJ's work. I find his movies and TV stuff very forgettable and average run-of-the-mill.
There are many other directors who I'm sure would be quite capable of directing a Star Wars movie.
Hey, why not James Cameron? Titanic and Avatar made a lot of money too, they were enjoyed by fans and received high marks.
Brent M
Sr Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
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Originally Posted by tgreco View Post
I read back a page and didn't see a mention, so ,apologies for the obvious post... but I'm just going to say it. Star Wars is dead.
J.J. may be a fan of Star Wars, but he is also going to put his very obvious stamp on it, so while it may be Star Wars in name, it's not going to be Star Wars, it's going to be J.J. Abrams presents - Star Wars* - Disney TM. And he's setting the tone for the next trilogy of films. So be prepared for overly sentimental, over the top, makes no sense J.J. Wars.
I understand why the studios picked him. He took the "dead" Star Trek franchise, redid it, and it made money. That's what Disney cares about. Box office reciepts. They don't care if the existing fans don't like it. They plunked down their $18.50 to watch it in 3D 48FPS super digi IMAX, and most will go see i, even if it's only out of curiosity.
They should have gone with a different director, if for no other reason than to make sure that it would be a different vision than Star Trek.
No, I take that back... They should have just left it alone. I know a lot of people are excited for this, but for me, this is the hemogenization of what audiences consider Sci-fi.
They can keep it.
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I'm pretty sure nobody's going to hold a gun to your head and force you to watch the movies so if you don't want to see them that's your decision, but there are millions of people like myself who are thrilled at the prospect of a non-Lucas SW film so to say "Star Wars is Dead" is simply absurd. If anything, it was nearly killed by the Special Editions and the Prequels....these films could be the adrenaline shot the franchise has needed for years.
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Originally Posted by tgreco View Post
I read back a page and didn't see a mention, so ,apologies for the obvious post... but I'm just going to say it. Star Wars is dead.
J.J. may be a fan of Star Wars, but he is also going to put his very obvious stamp on it, so while it may be Star Wars in name, it's not going to be Star Wars, it's going to be J.J. Abrams presents - Star Wars* - Disney TM. And he's setting the tone for the next trilogy of films. So be prepared for overly sentimental, over the top, makes no sense J.J. Wars.
I understand why the studios picked him. He took the "dead" Star Trek franchise, redid it, and it made money. That's what Disney cares about. Box office reciepts. They don't care if the existing fans don't like it. They plunked down their $18.50 to watch it in 3D 48FPS super digi IMAX, and most will go see i, even if it's only out of curiosity.
They should have gone with a different director, if for no other reason than to make sure that it would be a different vision than Star Trek.
No, I take that back... They should have just left it alone. I know a lot of people are excited for this, but for me, this is the hemogenization of what audiences consider Sci-fi.
They can keep it.
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I'm pretty sure nobody's going to hold a gun to your head and force you to watch the movies so if you don't want to see them that's your decision, but there are millions of people like myself who are thrilled at the prospect of a non-Lucas SW film so to say "Star Wars is Dead" is simply absurd. If anything, it was nearly killed by the Special Editions and the Prequels....these films could be the adrenaline shot the franchise has needed for years.
Brent M
Sr Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Best quote I've seen yet and it sums up exactly how I feel:
I love how the internet is SO starved to b!tch about something, that it's all just like 'oh no! I can't believe he is directing this! lens flares! lens flares!'. Abrams is a solid director, and good at telling a story. Star Trek was great, Alias was great, Lost STARTED OUT great, M:I-3 was great....like, for christsake, is it SO impossible to just get excited for something and hope for the best? I guess I don't get the whole 'hate everything and complain on the internet about it' thing. Just be happy, you'll live longer. And for **** sake, they could have said Brett Ratner was directing it! Then you would have wished Abrams would have got it. I'm personally excited for it. I'll wait till I actually SEE the movie before I decide if it sucks or not.
Best quote I've seen yet and it sums up exactly how I feel:
I love how the internet is SO starved to b!tch about something, that it's all just like 'oh no! I can't believe he is directing this! lens flares! lens flares!'. Abrams is a solid director, and good at telling a story. Star Trek was great, Alias was great, Lost STARTED OUT great, M:I-3 was great....like, for christsake, is it SO impossible to just get excited for something and hope for the best? I guess I don't get the whole 'hate everything and complain on the internet about it' thing. Just be happy, you'll live longer. And for **** sake, they could have said Brett Ratner was directing it! Then you would have wished Abrams would have got it. I'm personally excited for it. I'll wait till I actually SEE the movie before I decide if it sucks or not.
CB2001
Master Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
You mean The Empire Strikes Back wasn't non-Lucas SW? I mean, it was directed by Irvin Kershner and written by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan (though the story was written by Lucas and Lucas served as executive producer). Or did you mean that this is the first one in which Lucas doesn't have any involvement in?
You mean The Empire Strikes Back wasn't non-Lucas SW? I mean, it was directed by Irvin Kershner and written by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan (though the story was written by Lucas and Lucas served as executive producer). Or did you mean that this is the first one in which Lucas doesn't have any involvement in?
tgreco
Sr Member
Re: Star Wars Episode VII
You said the magic word
Franchise
Star Trek has always been meant to be episodic. A franchise.
I thought Star Wars was supposed to be the Saga of Anakin Skywalkers rise, fall, and redemption. And that is why I say Star Wars is dead...
The plan now is to make it a never ending franchise of films.
Odysseus eventually makes it home. That's the point of it.
You said the magic word
Franchise
Star Trek has always been meant to be episodic. A franchise.
I thought Star Wars was supposed to be the Saga of Anakin Skywalkers rise, fall, and redemption. And that is why I say Star Wars is dead...
The plan now is to make it a never ending franchise of films.
Odysseus eventually makes it home. That's the point of it.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII
Poor analogy, greco. The Star Wars prequels, despite many of you hating them, made gobs of money at the box office. It isn't a franchise in need of a rescue. Financially, that is.
Artistically?? That's another question.
The Wook
Poor analogy, greco. The Star Wars prequels, despite many of you hating them, made gobs of money at the box office. It isn't a franchise in need of a rescue. Financially, that is.
Artistically?? That's another question.
The Wook
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