Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Post-release)

I really hope they flesh out Kylo and Rey's backstory. It would be nice to know that Kylo is really pissed that he wasn't as strong as Luke's daughter so he went off...but it would be nice to have Kylo become a more sympathetic baddie. Early on and he is just a angry kid. Which may be what they're go my for.
 
Re: Star Wars TFA. Warning spoilers and I hate it!!! Haters and Lovers Welcome

They weren't brother and sister until some bozo wrote that in to ROTJ.

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"No, there is another." Who do you think Yoda was talkin bout???

Incest Strikes Back.

Yuck.

Jedi Rules.

and I LOVE THE EWOKS!!!!!!

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True true.

Sometimes I wish I didn't know all I do about Star Wars.

I'm going to bed now....looking for my Wickett plush toy for comfort.



NOT!!!! LOL.

I sleep with my Graflex.


As long as it's ESB or ANH.
 
One thing I HATED was Chewie just walking past Leia after coming back without Han. That was stupid as hell. .

I noticed that too, and thought it odd. Could be that they weren't particularly close after ROTJ; or when Han and Leia split up Chewie blamed her for Han's decline from Rebel general to 2nd rate smuggler; or Chewie knew that Han only confronted Kylo because Leia asked him to, and partly blamed her for Han's death.
 
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My biggest problem with EPVII was I want EPVIII now damn it.

Ben
I think the credits had just barely started when my buddy and I turned to each other and said something to the effect of, "So, how long is it until Episode VIII?" :lol
 
Jedi are not supposed to have kids or relationships that end up in kids that was Anakin's big problem remember . in any of the movies no Jedi except Anakin who quickly turned had any children there like monks .

having said that supposedly the alien writing on the helmet Rey had on Jakku spelled out RHEA "supposedly" so maybe Luke put her name on it . before he abandoned her.


I was hoping Luke would tell her to keep the saber she's gonna need it and then show her the dozen he built while he was bored on his rock .

or ask the time .

or fart anything say something .

I just realized something

the timeline for luke being Rey's father does not make sense unless kylo ren is like 45 or something or luke abandoned her years before just to get rid of her .

it shows her as a child being left in her memory she is maybe 8 but looks younger but lets say 8 and now she is like 20 or so so she was left say 12 years ago by her parents

Kylo ren does not look more than 20/ 25 lets say he is 25 then he would have had to kill all the other jedi students when he was 13 for for that to have had anything to do with why luke if he is her father left her. but supposedly Rey has a vision seeing Kylo dong his evil deed and he looked the same size had his mask and everything he was same height. and im thinking rey and kylo are closer in age that 5 years apart so .


so it seems to me Kylo Ren is looking good for his age or luke abandoned his daughter way to early if he turns out to be her father.
 
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Saw it for my first time today and I gotta say, while I enjoyed it very much, I can't say I was all that impressed. It was an exciting, action-packed thrill ride, but it didn't have the Star Wars feel...it felt to me like a very well made fan film. I will say it didn't feel to me like the rehash of ANH that others have complained that it was. The death scene also didn't feel earned to me. We're told what happened, that Ren is Han's son, but we never see that relationship in any way, so it doesn't have the impact it should when he kills him. Sure I got choked up, but because it's Han, a character that we saw grow through 3 movies previously, not because any emotional connection to their relationship. And I'm really starting to get annoyed that everybody seems to instantly know droid-speak. Sabine does it on Rebels and now Rey is doing it here.

I liked it a lot, I really did, but it's just not what I've been waiting for for 20+ years
 
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Jedi are not supposed to have kids or relationships that end up in kids that was Anakin's big problem remember . in any of the movies no Jedi except Anakin who quickly turned had any children there like monks .

having said that supposedly the alien writing on the helmet Rey had on Jakku spelled out RHEA "supposedly" so maybe Luke put her name on it . before he abandoned her.


I was hoping Luke would tell her to keep the saber she's gonna need it and then show her the dozen he built while he was bored on his rock .

or ask the time .

or fart anything say something .


Really?? You're going to reference the prequels?? That's ridiculous. Once they realized that the fans will dump ridiculous money into ****ty movies like the prequels and justify it... They realized that if they made a good movie that is better than all the prequels combined... then they would break every record ever set...and it will...AND we'll get the most epic fan service ever...and deep down that is EXACTLY what we always wanted. Just admit it. This roller coaster is fun and we're lucky to experience it.
 
Really?? You're going to reference the prequels?? That's ridiculous. Once they realized that the fans will dump ridiculous money into ****ty movies like the prequels and justify it... They realized that if they made a good movie that is better than all the prequels combined... then they would break every record ever set...and it will...AND we'll get the most epic fan service ever...and deep down that is EXACTLY what we always wanted. Just admit it. This roller coaster is fun and we're lucky to experience it.


one the prequels are cannon sooo there is that and I never said I did not like the movie.

also the math does not add up on Luke being Rey's father
 
my jedi are not supposed to have kids was more aimed at luke being a completely self taught jedi .well there was that weekend with yoda and ben had him take a few swings with the saber on the falcon and told him to use the force a lot .
 
Finally saw it tonight.

Full disclosure: I'm old enough to have seen the original trilogy in the theaters and was the perfect age when I saw TESB (being ten years old). So my nostalgia for the OT is pretty much off the charts and I doubt any new film can ever recapture the magic for me, personally. My cynicism wasn't exactly helped by the prequels.

That said, I went into the TFA with as open a mind as I could muster, while still fully aware that I wouldn't be leaving the theater with the same sense of "holy ****!" as I had as a youngin'.

Long story short, I was entertained. I liked it. AND, unlike the prequels (which felt like some fanfic alternate universe), the film certainly felt like it was taking place in the same Star Wars universe that I fondly remembered.

But...

I wasn't blown away. There was no sense of having seen a masterpiece. And that might've been inevitable, since--let's be honest--the story by all rights should've ended after ROTJ. Because any new threat to the Republic that you could imagine would invariably feel like a retread of the Empire, especially if it was to be threatening on a grand scale. And I think that was my biggest problem with it...it had a "been there, done that" feel right from the get-go. But others have already pointed out all the similarities it shared with ANH, so I won't rehash the same arguments.

Other nitpicks:

1. How likely is it that a major hero of the Empire's defeat would devolve back into a bachelor smuggler? Sure, it might feel more natural to see Han Solo in that role vs. some comfy, revered war hero enjoying the spoils of fame and fortune, but it doesn't ring quite true.

2. Similarly, Leia should be higher in stature than some general leading a scrappy force of "Resistance". Which leads to the next nitpick...

3. The state of the galaxy's central government was too vague. IS there a central government in charge? If so, is it the Republic? Is it the First Order? Is there a split of territories? And why is "the Resistance" spoken of as if it were separate from the Republic? The biggest problem with keeping all this stuff vague is that we never really get a sense of how big a threat the First Order is, so it's harder to empathize with the heroes because you don't really grasp how big a threat they face.

4. By resuscitating the Empire in such a familiar form, it has the effect of making us feel like there will never be any resolution or victory so great as to keep them down. Luke blew up the first Death Star, yet they bounced back with a vengeance. The second Death Star exploded; the Emperor was killed; Vader was toast; yet STILL the Empire--sorry, "First Order"--rises from the ashes and seems nearly as dangerous as ever. It has the effect of diminishing any sense of victory the good guys might win, now or later, because it seems like it'll never be decisive enough to finally proclaim victory.

5. Kylo Ren. We get the impression that he had lots of experience and training, yet Rey not only holds her own against him but has him eating snow by the battle's end. Really? If he had to go down, it would've been much more satisfying if Luke had been the one to do it. Especially if Ren had mistakenly had the arrogance to believe he possessed the ability to take Luke down, only to have his ass handed to him. Speaking of...

6. Thirty seconds of Luke? C'mon. We deserved more.
 
I said show me.

it is one page back like 5 posts back but fine

rey is around 6 or 8 when she is left and 8 is really pushing it now she is 18 or 20 right?

kylo is 20 to 25 right?

go back the 12 to 14 years to when she is abandoned how old is kylo at most 11 to 13 years old right

rey sees a vision of Kylo turning on the jedi at least that is what everybody seems to agree one of her force visions is supposed to be he looked the same hight had his mask soooooo

he was 6"4 when he was 11 or 13 or he is now in his late 30 to 40 or luke abandonded rey waaaaay early before any of kylo turning to the dark side and offing the other students took place .
 
Take out reys vision.
For lukes students being murderd by kylo being the reason he drops rey off on jakku which makes no sense anyway then kylo's betrayal casme at a young age no matter how you look at it!

And it seems rey and kylo are closer in age than 5 years so that would mean he was 10 or younger if his betrayal is what led Luke to hide rey away

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Show me the math.
the math is shown 3 times now
 
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The saber fight at the end did not bother me as kylo just took aa blaster from chiew that we saw fling others ten feet so I figure most of his energy was used trying to stay vertical
 
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