Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Post-release)

[Jaitea]

Too hard to universally please. That doesn't mean they should be ignored entirely, just that you should try to appeal to the broadest swath of them without simultaneously weakening the appeal of the film for general movie audiences. In this respect, TFA knocked it out of the park.

Yeah...I know....it's just that round here the positive comments have died away and the only people talking are the guys who have problems with it.....

It taints my great memories

J

 

[JiminSTLouis]

I'm seeing The Force Awakens today in the St. Louis Science Center OMNIMAX dome. I'm looking forward to the immersive experience.

 

[NeoRutty]

Yeah...I know....it's just that round here the positive comments have died away and the only people talking are the guys who have problems with it.....

It taints my great memories

J

It bugged me at first... the negatives still going on about it...

But now I just feel bad for them, heh. If you can't enjoy that movie on any level, there would be no pleasing them no matter what.

It was solid entertainment.

 

[Jeyl]

yes... and it was exactly that which cheapened their appearance for me, at least. I had seen all of those before, and so--to me at least--it seemed like Lucas' fan service to just pile them in by the oodles in the PT. I would much rather see new aliens (like in TFA) so that I have something new to study and make into my own "classics" than just have the same old thing trotted out again and again because "hey...it's Star Wars. We GOTTA have Twi'leks and Tusken Raiders, or it won't *feel* like Star Wars". That line of thinking I simply don't subscribe to.

So you're criticizing Star Wars for reusing alien races as fan service? Having the same race of aliens show up in other movies is not exactly what I would call fan service. Making every Clonetrooper and Stormtrooper Boba Fett? THAT is pure 100% uncut fan service. If the Star Wars movies made every alien race new from movie to movie, that would present a far more disjointed universe than what already have. It's like saying that every space faring species except for humans comes into existence and goes extinct every three years or so. That's not world building, that's just wasting assets.

And considering all the familiar alien races we saw in the prequels, you've got to give Lucas credit for not only creating new species, but also giving them the biggest spotlight when it comes to relevance. The Gungans, Kaminoans, the Neimoidia, and those darn Geonosians. They all had more screen and story relevance than the original trilogy aliens. Besides, having familiar aliens from time to time gives the galaxy character. These are the galaxy's inhabitants and they matter.

 

[Father]

yes... and it was exactly that which cheapened their appearance for me, at least. I had seen all of those before, and so--to me at least--it seemed like Lucas' fan service to just pile them in by the oodles in the PT. I would much rather see new aliens (like in TFA) so that I have something new to study and make into my own "classics" than just have the same old thing trotted out again and again because "hey...it's Star Wars. We GOTTA have Twi'leks and Tusken Raiders, or it won't *feel* like Star Wars". That line of thinking I simply don't subscribe to. I know some do...and that's fine for them. But all star Wars fans aren't the same...that's what makes it so special.

Plugging in new aliens, at least with the PT, was a distraction for a weak story. Everything could have been done in those movies with the aliens that had already been introduced in the OT, maybe throwing in a couple new ones here and there. But they went way beyond that. Not to say show/movies featuring new aliens doesn't work, but I feel like if people want to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before... JJ rebooted another franchise just for that.

Look at the TV series Firefly. They travel around to lots of planets... not a single alien in the show. Would Star Wars be more boring if there were no aliens? Probably. But I still feel like using the ones we've already been introduced to isn't a bad thing.

While it's hard to say that the OT set the baseline for all of the aliens that should have been seen in the SWU, the PT took it to a whole new level, which, just like the movies' technology, seems backwards. Unless part of the Empire's mission statement was mass genocide, so that by the time we get to the OT, they've wiped out the majority of the aliens races... It's not like you ever see an alien working for the Empire, even in a support role. British-accented white guys and droids is about the extent of what we got with the OT. Just like you don't see the sleek, shiny, new ships with fancy consoles and tech. It's all blocky colored switches, and beat up piles of crap freighters.

I feel like continuing to introduce new aliens is also backwards in the sense that we've been introduced to this galaxy far far away, where traveling at light speed is pretty normal. So more than likely a sampling of every alien race by now should have hopped on a star ship and ended up somewhere else and been seen by now.

Kind of like real life. We know what's in our world. While they still discover new animal species, how often are they so unique from something else that we've already seen.

I guess I'm just yammering at this point.

 

[niennumb1]

Yeah...I know....it's just that round here the positive comments have died away and the only people talking are the guys who have problems with it.....

It taints my great memories

J

Eh... well for me it's not a thing of feeling like I need to keep coming back to defend the good stuff. The lack of replying I think acts as a brick wall for the negativity to hit and I'm just not listening to it anymore and going to remain happy with the film while the rest just falls on my negatively deaf ears.

 

[Father]

I still loved the movie and can't wait for more... I'm just nitpicking.

 

[cboath]

So you're criticizing Star Wars for reusing alien races as fan service? Having the same race of aliens show up in other movies is not exactly what I would call fan service. Making every Clonetrooper and Stormtrooper Boba Fett? THAT is pure 100% uncut fan service. If the Star Wars movies made every alien race new from movie to movie, that would present a far more disjointed universe than what already have. It's like saying that every space faring species except for humans comes into existence and goes extinct every three years or so. That's not world building, that's just wasting assets.

And considering all the familiar alien races we saw in the prequels, you've got to give Lucas credit for not only creating new species, but also giving them the biggest spotlight when it comes to relevance. The Gungans, Kaminoans, the Neimoidia, and those darn Geonosians. They all had more screen and story relevance than the original trilogy aliens. Besides, having familiar aliens from time to time gives the galaxy character. These are the galaxy's inhabitants and they matter.

And people @%^&^ed about those aliens as well. Gungans and their speech issues, Kaminoans and Genonisian's were simply GL making GGI characters (just to **** people off it seemed), and neimoidians were supposedly offensive to asians i believe it was.

As was said earlier, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's 100% impossible to please everyone. People who wanna complain will find things to complain about. Take tatooine out of the prequels and how many OT aliens still make the cut? Honestly, i've no idea, but a number from the OT were only found there....

 

[Darth Lars]

Gungans, Kaminoan and Genonosians were crap because GL was out of touch. Not because he lacked imagination and did not want to do anything new.
There are several fan-edits out there with new voice acting for some of the aliens -- and those made it work.

 

[Father]

Gungans, Kaminoan and Genonosians were crap because GL was out of touch. Not because he lacked imagination and did not want to do anything new.
There are several fan-edits out there with new voice acting for some of the aliens -- and those made it work.

With the PT they seemed more like CG characters for the sake of using CG. Ironic that Yoda in the TPM was still a muppet but they couldn't pull it off as well as they did with the OT. As if 50-ish years to an 800+ year old alien needs as dramatically different as they made it..
The Kaminoans were neat. The Gungans were idiotic. The Geonosians looked like crap.

There were aliens in the previous movies that were barely used but for a couple second scan through a room. They or variations of them could easily have been used.

 

[Jaitea]

The deleted scenes article

http://epicstream.com/news/First-Look-At-The-Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-Deleted-Scenes

J

 

[spacebob]

A friend has just texted me saying "the blu ray has leaked on the internet"

I'm not sure where one goes for this sort of thing.

 

[Halliwax]

A friend has just texted me saying "the blu ray has leaked on the internet"

I'm not sure where one goes for this sort of thing.

It was posted in another thread, they said its on torrent sites. I haven't checked because I don't have the guts to do that stuff lol

 

[crabra comander]

It's funny, because I already pre-ordered the Blu Ray...but I still want to watch it now!

It was posted in another thread, they said its on torrent sites. I haven't checked because I don't have the guts to do that stuff lol

 

[SVTStingRay]

wow a leak 2 weeks before release. someone's gonna get in a lot of trouble...........Star Wars tonight..........Batman VS Superman tomorrow! WOOHOO!

 

[DizzyStrmtroopr]

in case anyones wondering the 10gb version is WELL worth the wait time.

 

[SofaKing01]

It was posted in another thread, they said its on torrent sites. I haven't checked because I don't have the guts to do that stuff lol

Same here. Besides, part of the fun is the wait. When I get the BR I will 1st watch the movie, then the deleted scenes and then all the extras. Repeat!

 

[Bryancd]

It was posted in another thread, they said its on torrent sites. I haven't checked because I don't have the guts to do that stuff lol

Not to mention the point that it's theft.

 

[Sourdoh]

In the past, I have watched a couple of torrent pirated films that friends have grabbed, and I didn't think much of the quality. Maybe it's better now, but I still won't go there. Ethics are part of growing up.

 

[cayman shen]

I could see torrenting it because I JUST CAN'T WAIT, but then I'd def buy the BR after. It's inconceivable to me that I wouldn't own a proper copy of this. Having said that, I can wait