Well, if you took the Star Wars labeling off TFA and put an Avatar skin on it.... ???
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Post-release)
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Well, if you took the Star Wars labeling off TFA and put an Avatar skin on it.... ???
Bigdaddy
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I don't know about "meaningless", just not indicative of popularity. I didn't find Avatar to be remarkable beyond the FX at the time. It was certainly a visual spectacle but I can't recall any of the characters names so it didn't make much of an impression. Most of the blockbuster movies of the last 10 years or so I think of as the cinematic equivalent of McDonald's. Billions served but not overly satisfying in the long run. (I don't put TFA in that category)Again, individual opinions are meaningless. What Box Office represents is the nonjudgmental metric. It measure how many people went to see the film. A huge number like Avatar or TFA also means a great many found enjoyment in that experience enough to recommend it to others and see it more then once. Numbers don't lie, people do.
Sourdoh
Sr Member
I find the "I hated it" and the "I loved it" statements to be about as asinine as you can get. How can you hate a movie? You might not like it, but hate? I think the dumbing down of everything these days has gotten to a point where we must categorize everything into niches of love or hate, so we don't really have to make an objective judgement of anything. You either hate it, or you love it. Any and all aspects are dis-differentiated out of the equation. Black or white, that's it. It is intellectual laziness at its most egregious.
DarkKnight
Sr Member
so youre friends with chewie for decades and not once do you ask him to try out his bowcaster?
astroboy
Master Member
So like, Zach Morris?
Even with that explanation, it's still stretching what we've ever seen before. Pausing time is not a star wars convention.
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astroboy
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I love that George has finally come forth on his opinion.
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Jaitea
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annanake
Sr Member
Who said pausing time????
During Luke's weekend training seminar on degabagh we see Luke doing one of the practices for the trials, holding a rock in the air (remember the one handed hand stand with yoda perched on one foot?)he did not pause time he simply used the force to hold the Rock still in the air .the trial is six huge rocks you hold as many as you can as long as you can.
kylo just took his training to heart and holds a laser blast and peoples arms or bodies . " No, no different is it only in your mind is it" .
I swear nobady seems to listen to Yoda not even Yoda himself as seen in his fight with dooku where he has to stop and concentrate harder because Kenobi and Skywalker are in danger .
Zombie_61
Master Member
The way I see it, you have to put yourself in Finn's position. He's holding a device he's never seen or used before, but he has a vague idea about what it's supposed to do and he's trying to get it to do that. So he's looking at it, he sees a big red button, and he pushes the button to see what happens. That doesn't seem unreasonable, and any one of us would probably have done the same thing if we were him. Now, the fact that the lightsaber fired up seems to conflict established canon, and I don't think we ever saw Anakin, Luke, or Han fire it up by doing that, but I don't know if there's anything out there that says you can't fire it up that way. I don't know enough about Anakin's/Luke's lightsaber to make that determination, so I don't know if it's wrong or simply new. But when I saw it, my first thought was, "Oh, the RPF is going to go crazy over that," and then nobody mentioned it. :lol
I wouldn't say it's a "new" trend, but I do think more effects artists are finally coming around to Stan Winston's way of thinking, i.e. that neither CGI nor practical effects are the solution to every problem, and that CGI and practical effects artists need to work together to create effects that are seamless.
Regardless, I think the real problem is the same thing that drove Rick Baker to retire--the studios want everything fast and cheap, and that methodology isn't going to yield the best results.
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For those wondering about the parts of Rey's staff that resemble Maul's lightsaber:
From the Visual Dictionary
From the Visual Dictionary
ghostryder
Legendary Member
Was this posted? More BTS pics:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/check-out-some-behind-the-scenes-pictures-from-the-forc-1750766143
http://io9.gizmodo.com/check-out-some-behind-the-scenes-pictures-from-the-forc-1750766143
Mola Rob
Sr Member
Has anyone considered that maybe Chewie got a new and more powerful model that Han had never fired before? His bowcaster never had that much of a kick in the OT.
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astroboy
Master Member
You are right. It isn't pausing time.
I think the part that concerns me is that he stopped the bolt, then went about his business for 5 minutes before letting go. Even anakin couldn't do that.
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astroboy
Master Member
I think it's going to look fantastic.
For all the practical sets that the OT used, it also had one other trick that JJ totally forgot about.
Matte paintings to help create the wondrous galaxy far, far away.
TFA could have used a lot more CGI to help flesh this out
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Jaitea
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annanake
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he never tried, I bet he could have . I still say deflecting a bolt of laser off your palm is way more ballsy than stopping it midair.
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