HMSwolfe
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Star Wars Tales of The Jedi animated series?
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NakedMoleRat
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NakedMoleRat
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The Samurai Jack animation matched the Jedi well.
LOVE Samurai Jack. I was going to describe it that way but I thought I remembered Clone Wars came out first?
I love the Clone Wars micro series. Not only was it amazing when it first aired, it's aged really well too.
That's a great example. It's an older story and I can revisit it any time I want. It ended. It's significance hasn't been rendered meaningless by constant additions that only sully it.
That's a great example. It's an older story and I can revisit it any time I want. It ended. It's significance hasn't been rendered meaningless by constant additions that only sully it.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
I really want to have a positive about these shows but they keep it making it so damn hard to do so. It's mostly "fans already like this so let's do more of it" instead of "lets take some risks and hopefully give them new original things to like love." The other animation anthology Visions (which was more of an actually anthology) didn't do wonders for me but at least I can respect that in some ways they tried something different.
Dooku could be interesting possibly but SW is oversaturated with Ahsoka.
For the love of all things, please no more inquisitors. I just can't with them.
Dooku could be interesting possibly but SW is oversaturated with Ahsoka.
For the love of all things, please no more inquisitors. I just can't with them.
Inquisitors render Vader toothless as a villain. Whether they existed in the 90s or now with Rebels etc, the fact that the OT only had two Sith and three Jedi made their rarity special. Having all these unknown force users coming out of nowhere is so played out and unoriginal that it's boring.
Not to mention it took the punch out of Vader; if he had these minions, what was his purpose? Vader was supposed to be the emissary of the Emperor: the one whom he sent to deal with major issues quickly and efficiently. Having these lesser cronies in the mix makes it look like he needs some help to do his job. If that's the case, a platoon of stormtroopers would work just as well.
The problem was they took a decent, IMO, idea from the Expanded Universe and made it worse. Originally in the old books, the Inquisitors had weak Force powers. They were given just enough power to be effective in their jobs because The Emperor and Vader didn't want any one of them or them as a group trying to take them out. They didn't actively hunt Jedi, they were mainly intel agents who would find a Jedi and then Vader would come in and handle them. The same would go for the Emperor's Hands, like Mara Jade. She only became powerful after Luke gave her more training. Before that, she had just enough Force powers to be an effective agent.
I don't have a problem with other Force users being around. I forgot where I read it or possibly a video, but Lucas has said how many Jedi survived Order 66 and then how many were still around by the time of the OT. Most of those listened and went to ground and hid like they were told though. I don't think we need a ton of Jedi running around in the OT time period. Ahsoka/Ezra/Kanan are bad enough, because surely someone would go up to Luke and say "Hey we had these other Jedi come through recently."
I don't take issue with other Jedi surviving the Purge, but it should have been extremely rarified and it was a trope they played out over and over again to the point where it lessens the importance of the saga characters. Not only that, it begs the logical question as to where all these hidden Jedi were during the formation of the Rebellion.
Joek3rr
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The Inquisitors are always an interesting thing. Because the main reason they exist is to die. So a lightsaber wielding hero can have a conflict with a lightsaber wielding villain. And that villain can potentially die. If it's always Vader, kinda limits things a bit. So the Inquisitors kinda slide by for me. Though I understand the criticism.
Joek3rr
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It doesn't help that Ahsoka was like the only character from his initial pitch that survived George kinda taking over the show.
And yeah Ahsoka is really popular. She's pretty much the face of Star Wars since 2011, 2012. And she's only gotten more popular. And you can see the shift as TCW went from being about the characters in the film, with Ahsoka just being an addition. To TCW being her show. Of course George didn't see it that way. Probably why he wanted her to die. And Dave persuaded him otherwise.
I'm not going to lie, I like Ahsoka. Seeing her in Rebels was fun. But I feel like her journey should have some how ended with Anakin's. Considering their connection. Have Ahsoka give her life to save Vader somehow. That would kinda of shake up Vader a bit. Actually imagine the plot of the Obi-Wan show, but use Ahsoka instead. Young Leia interacting with Ahsoka. Would have been a perfect way to conclude her story.
But right now Ahsoka is probably their biggest money maker. So I don't imagine there will be an end to her content anytime soon.
Joek3rr
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So here's a potentially weird retcon.
This is Obi-Wan's major appearances from AOTC to ROTS. It's interesting that TOTJ Obi-Wan, is looking more like AOTC Obi-Wan. Even though chronologically that would be after The Clone Wars film. Admittedly it works better with the films. As The Clone Wars film is supposed to be set only 7 weeks after Geonosis. (Though I suspect it was originally meant to be set later.) Kind of interesting Dave is kind of visually retconning TCW.
This is Obi-Wan's major appearances from AOTC to ROTS. It's interesting that TOTJ Obi-Wan, is looking more like AOTC Obi-Wan. Even though chronologically that would be after The Clone Wars film. Admittedly it works better with the films. As The Clone Wars film is supposed to be set only 7 weeks after Geonosis. (Though I suspect it was originally meant to be set later.) Kind of interesting Dave is kind of visually retconning TCW.
CT1138
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Fans weren't too happy the last couple times Star Wars did new and different, so this is what we get. Safe and comfortable.
I have suspicions that this is part of the Dooku short, and will be set in the direct aftermath of Geonosis, before Obi-Wan decided to slim down the armor into what we see in S1 and S2 of TCW. It also lets Filoni throw a bone to fans of the micro series.
New and different would be telling stories that have nothing to do, whatsoever, with the Skywalkers, or the Galactic Civil War. New and different is Mandalorian Season 1. Season 2 doesn't count and neither does Rogue One or Andor. Both use characters or scenarios from the known, though the latter to a lesser degree. You'd think if the galaxy is that vast, surely there would be other types of conflicts other than the Empire/ Rebellion wars.
People loved Mando Season 1 by and large, and even gave someone like me a glimmer of hope, but they squandered all that potential a few episodes into Season 2 by turning it into cameo of the week, quite literally. Until they do more stories like season 1, with characters and scenarios removed from the known, NOTHING in Star Wars is new and different. So it's one of two things, either fans are unwilling to embrace new stories, or (the more likely case) is that the writers can't come up with their own original material so they take the easy route and try to reinvent the existing material.
Ultimately it will always, always, always, come down to what sells.
People loved Mando Season 1 by and large, and even gave someone like me a glimmer of hope, but they squandered all that potential a few episodes into Season 2 by turning it into cameo of the week, quite literally. Until they do more stories like season 1, with characters and scenarios removed from the known, NOTHING in Star Wars is new and different. So it's one of two things, either fans are unwilling to embrace new stories, or (the more likely case) is that the writers can't come up with their own original material so they take the easy route and try to reinvent the existing material.
Ultimately it will always, always, always, come down to what sells.
Joek3rr
Master Member
From what I understand it's from the one the Ahsoka shorts. But I'm not sure.
It's also interesting that Ahsoka and Anakin have new looks as well. Anakin's hair is a bit shorter. And Ahsoka isn't wearing her tube top.
Dave is great at pandering to our nostalgia. I'll just watch the old series if I want to see Obi-Wan looking like a total bada**.
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