Edwardowan
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Both teaser trailers look AWESOME!!!!! Love hearing the original Tie Fighter blaster fire! 
STAR WARS Rebels new animated series!
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GiovanniDekkers
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I think the teasers look awesome, especially the field with the crashed ship, so flueint ,you immidiately feel the McQuarrie influence in there, can't wait to see the first tatooine teasers.
Love that sentiment. It's things like this that make me so angry when snide adult Star Wars fans crap over the content they deem to child like. WTF, it's Star Wars, it's for kids and the kids in all of us.
Solo4114
Master Member
To be fair, I think there's a difference between "child-like" and "childish." It's when Star Wars verges into the "childish" that I have an issue with it. Put simply, if they can replicate the kind of broad appeal that ANH did, I'm game. If it's more like TPM, I'll pass.
I appreciate the distinction, Dan, but the sentiment you express is the heart of the issue. You predicate your feeling about new Star Wars content like Rebels based on your predisposition to want it to be like the Star Wars you grew up with. If a younger fan has more emotional connection to the OT, they may feel a similar way towards the aesthetic and appeal of those films. SW can't continue to be the OT and still try and grow and expand the franchise or the creative narrative, regardless of how strongly we may feel connected to it. Kids that have been introduced to SW via the Clone Wars, should we dismiss their desire to see SW going forward be like that just because we were first?
To be fair child like or childish is simply a matter of semantics and entirely arbitrary to the observer. More to the point should a kid and his father or Uncle be denied the experience of enjoying SW together just because older fans feel entitled to call it childish drivel? I would love Rebels to make me feel like I did watching the OT as a kid but what if my son, who is still far to young but just to make the point, has a different sense of taste and aesthetic and storytelling. Should Rebels be my show or his? As a Disney investor, I vote for his.
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Jaitea
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Remember there is a difference between 'My Little Pony' and 'Toy Story', a family cartoon can please adults & kids.....I do think with Disney's experience they will strike a balance.
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I agree the point being not every SW release needs to or should appeal to men 35 and over.
I'm 99% sure there is some male SW fan there that is just designing some of these to see cute female SW cosplayers make them! Because I would try to do that. :lol
I'm not too sure about this new look. I liked the CW style, but these look too Disney.
That's the main thing I didn't like. Of course now if they are ditching the EU it won't matter. I still think Karen Traviss took it too personal and didn't wait to see what panned out. They could have easily said after the Clione Wars Jango's Mandalorians came back and took over to prevent anyone from making them a pawn again.
Mara Jade's Father
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I'm diggin' the symbol:
cayman shen
Master Member
The teasers absolutely felt like OT Star Wars to me. I think it was the sounds.
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
I agree. I could never get into the Clone Wars. It just looked so odd. This has a great feel to it. Need to see more, but definitely interested. Too bad I don't have Disney XD.
Solo4114
Master Member
Bryan,
I think you may be misunderstanding what I'm getting at. I'm looking for the kind of experience that can appeal to both kids and adults. The OT wasn't "dark" or "serious" in the sense of being all grim and gritty. But it didn't really resort to cheap cartoon humor, and it didn't seem to treat the audience the way adults sometimes see children (as being "childish" or only capable of appreciating "kiddie" stuff). To my way of thinking, ANH struck that balance perfectly. It appealed to the child in everyone by focusing on the sense of wonder and excitement that the universe presented, and told a space-based fairy tale with elements from other familiar genres thrown in. It was just a rollicking good adventure flick.
Other franchises have struck this balance well. The Harry Potter franchise, for example, is a terrific blend of stuff that appeals to kids and stuff that can appeal to parents, even in terms of the first two films/books. I watch them on their own because I enjoy them in their own right. While their tone is far more broad in terms of the humor they depict, I'd argue that most Pixar films have stuff in them to appeal to kids and parents alike, even if they primarily target kids.
When you mention the show appealing to a parent and child sitting on the couch together, I'm with you. What I don't want is for the material to be such that the parent's only appreciation for it comes as a result of the child's appreciation. My niece and nephew love Dora the Explorer and Thomas & Friends. They're 2 and 4, respectively. I enjoy watching those shows with them because I enjoy watching them get a kick out of the shows, but I find no enjoyment in the material itself on my own. In terms of ANH's nostalgia factor, I'd say that the old Sunbow G.I. Joe and Transformers cartoons are...not very adult-oriented eithe, and my only appreciation for them derives from nostalgia. ANH, however, is different. I still enjoy the film in its own right, as a cracking good adventure, and don't feel as if it's only for kids.
My hope is that Rebels will be able to do the same: to appeal to kids and parents alike, each independently. Now, this being a show on Disney XD, I wouldn't expect it to target adults, and I'd expect a somewhat more broad take on the material (e.g., closer to a Pixar film), but at the same time, I don't think it needs to alienate the adults in the audience by being targeted solely at children (which is how I felt TPM operated -- AOTC and ROTS were more targeted at adults, I found, whatever other flaws the films may have). I think that Rebels can -- and may well do this. I hope it's something I can enjoy on my own for its own sake, but I'm ok with it being something I can watch with my niece and nephew in a few years, after Uncle Dan shows 'em the OT for the first time.
Solo4114
Master Member
I haven't seen the clone Wars cartoon, but folks here have said fairly positive things about it, and I gather it improved considerably over time. Now that it's on Netflix, I may give it a whirl.
Indeed and the individual episodes or story arcs which struggled the mist tended to be ones heavily influenced by GL himself, which is all the more reason to be optimistic regarding Rebels as Dave Filloni knows how to make gear SW.
GiovanniDekkers
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http://widgets.ign.com/video/embed/.../2014/02/18/star-wars-rebels-introducing-zeb#
Introducing Zeb Orellios
Already like him, I get the impression the stormtroopers aren't just canon-fodder here, I like that
Introducing Zeb Orellios
Already like him, I get the impression the stormtroopers aren't just canon-fodder here, I like that
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
Yes. I urge you to watch them on Netflix. Even if you have trouble at first, please stick it out (I did the same thing with Doctor Who). I also think you will enjoy it more when you can watch a few in a sitting without commercials. The flow and story is better. Later in the seasons, they do not do one shot episodes but instead it is more like a season of five mini-series stories. Like I said before, it really fills in aspects missing from the PT movies.
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