Based on that EW interview sounds like Vader and the Emporer may make appearances but I think creatively it's better to tell a different story then more about Anakin, at least for this format.
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Based on that EW interview sounds like Vader and the Emporer may make appearances but I think creatively it's better to tell a different story then more about Anakin, at least for this format.
You're probably right but this Inquisitor guy looks really out of place in an OT universe. Smacks of the Prequel look.
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True, but we aren't quit there yet, this is a bridge between PT and OT and as such I think I could accept a blend of the two, having been a fan of the PT and the Clone Wars.
What I've seen of Clone Wars has been pretty decent I must admit. But you and I are at odds over the PT. :lol
Really for me it comes down to everything else fitting the OT look and him standing out like a sore thumb.
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Riceball
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While I do agree that he looks a little more like something out of the PT than the OT but I'm ok with that since the one thing that the PT, esp. the Clone Wars series, did right was add a little more variety to the look of the Star Wars universe as its inhabitants are concerned. What does bug me about this character is that he's yet another Sith (apprentice) type character, as if that hasn't been done to death. I mean, how many Sith apprentices are there running around during and after the PT anyway and do we really need to see more? I think that the Inquisitor would have been a much more interesting, or at least realistic, character if he were a human Imperial officer, something that we've never seen that much of in all 6 movies and the 2 Clone Wars series. Make the character a true believer, someone who truly believes in the Emperor and everything the Empire stands for, at least on paper, and not some power hungry, moustache twisting megalomaniac villain but someone who truly believes all of the propaganda about the Jedi and serves out of loyalty and conviction. It would be interesting to see a villain like that who truly believes in the system and on top of it has a sense of honor and doesn't abuse his power and position and doesn't believe in the same heavy handedness that's commonly associated with the Empire. I'm sure that type of character has been done before but we don't see that very often and it would be refreshing if they had gone that route with the Inquisitor instead of making yet another Sith apprentice.
You should watch the Clone Wars man. It put the fun back in the PT era stuff for me and is the reason I'm certain this show will rock. I'm not a PT hater as I really liked ROTS but I didnt get the complete Star Wars feel with them either if you know what I mean. Clone Wars on the other hand did have a Star Wars feel for me. I'm just imagining that seeing Filoni and his team are doing this as well that feel combind with the OT style design will just knock it out of the park. I'm confident of that anyway. Ben
Riceball
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The Inquisitor? I have no idea but he certainly looks Sith and iirc he carries a lightsaber which means a certain amount of affinity to the Force and given that he's working for Emperor or Vader would certainly suggest that he's Sith.
Here, this is from the EW interview:
"You’ve created a new villain, the Inquisitor, what makes him special?
That was probably the most daunting part of this process. George obviously created the best villain of our time. So we spent a lot of time brainstorming and working with the artists to come up with the Inquisitor. You’ve seen that image of him. We wanted somebody terrifying, a nightmare character for a kid but not somebody too foreign, too creature-ly. We didn’t want him to have a helmet for obvious reasons — the comparison [to Darth Vader]. We talked about a character who was cold and calculating and could tap into people’s emotional weaknesses as much as their physical weaknesses, and had a specific relationship to Jedi and the ways of the force. He would be somebody that the remaining Jedi would be especially scared of."
Sounds more like a rogue Jedi apprentice gone bad but not a Sith per se or apprentice to Vader and the Emperor.
I agree that an Imperial officer would be a better choice. Perhaps Tarkin battling rebels across the galaxy!
Yeah, I'm not sure we can just assume he has a lightsaber that he is a Force user, even. From what I have heard/read from Dave Filoni and the production crew is that his lightsaber is very unique, almost like a lightsaber for someone who does't have the Force but can wield a blade.
Mara Jade's Father
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I too always thought they missed a great opportunity to do a R Mc Vader in ROTS. Lucas had utilized a lot of old unused concepts from the OT in the PT, so it would have not been out of right field.
I think you need a bad guy like the Inquisitor. Someone who is scary and powerful (more so than an Imperial Officer). But not too powerful like Vader because he needs to be able to be believable when rebels score a victory. If you compare the CW to the new show, this Inquisitor would seem like a Grievous character, someone doing a lot more of the boots-on-ground work that lacks the priority or need for Vader (who would be more like Dooku) or the Emperor (who would be... well... like the Emperor ;p).
I think you need a bad guy like the Inquisitor. Someone who is scary and powerful (more so than an Imperial Officer). But not too powerful like Vader because he needs to be able to be believable when rebels score a victory. If you compare the CW to the new show, this Inquisitor would seem like a Grievous character, someone doing a lot more of the boots-on-ground work that lacks the priority or need for Vader (who would be more like Dooku) or the Emperor (who would be... well... like the Emperor ;p).
cboath
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Using the PT itself, force ability isn't required for using a lightsaber anyhow - Grievous. He could wield 4 simultaneously that were taken from Jedi. He had programming, but not ability. He had an organic heart and mechanical everything else I believe.
It'd be nice if he was a youngling or something that palpatine took from the ruins of the temple and judge built into a cold tower of evil, torturing him every step of the way to give him total control. Only then to find out that he's gone too far and will just keep terrorizing/torching those in his path.
Too severe though for their target market
It'd be nice if he was a youngling or something that palpatine took from the ruins of the temple and judge built into a cold tower of evil, torturing him every step of the way to give him total control. Only then to find out that he's gone too far and will just keep terrorizing/torching those in his path.
Too severe though for their target market
GiovanniDekkers
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I personally like the idea of the Sith Inquisitor, because he can add content to the idea of underworlds, the simple civilizations on the planets under the reign of the Empire (where the Rebellion rises from), I don't see him as a Sith , because there can only be two right? We already have Sidious and Vader, I see the inquisitor as a pawn of the Emperor, like with Hitler's Gestapo , in charge of a secret police.He's a Sith Apprentice or a Dark Jedi who has the ambition to fight Darth Vader one day to become the second Sith, as he's loyal to Only Sidious.....or Vader , as Vader might have a secret agenda of his own aswell.Nevertheless , there is a Jedi-purge going on after all, so the additions of extra forcewielders on the side of the Empire wouldn't feel that far-fetched to me.I'd like to think that a lot has happend , untill we get to the scene in "A new Hope" where Tarkin addresses Vader , about the Jedi.......
I like the idea of using officers, like hit-squads, the samekinds that were used in ancient rome and during the Spanish Inquisition, or like somesort of SS devision, not literally ofcourse.So the rebels have something to fight against.
These events could explain the rivalry between Tarkin and Vader more clearly, as Tarkin sees more potential in using hit squads against the Rebellion and Vader failing in the use of an Inquisitor, letting him take control as the only Sith forcewielder next to Palpatine in the Original Trilogy.
I like the idea of using officers, like hit-squads, the samekinds that were used in ancient rome and during the Spanish Inquisition, or like somesort of SS devision, not literally ofcourse.So the rebels have something to fight against.
These events could explain the rivalry between Tarkin and Vader more clearly, as Tarkin sees more potential in using hit squads against the Rebellion and Vader failing in the use of an Inquisitor, letting him take control as the only Sith forcewielder next to Palpatine in the Original Trilogy.
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Edwardowan
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well, technically there doesn't have to be only two... that was just a rule of thumb the Sith order ended up with. Because of their greed for power they tended to fight amongst themselves for power and would destroy each other... so one master and one apprentice was the "safe rule" for the Master!
... doesn't mean there isn't another "one master with an apprentice" elsewhere...Remember Count Dooku, dubbed Darth Tyranus existed and was practicing the Dark Side while Darth Sidious was the master with Darth Maul as his apprentice... Sidious must have known about Count Dooku, (Darth Tyranus) existing and kept him in mind "just in case" So even in film canon there was already more than two. Its the way of the Sith to want to eventually become the Master and that can only be done when they destroy their own master and then take on an apprentice.. or be training an apprentice already so the overthrow of the Master can be successful.. hence Palpatine wanting Luke to become a Sith to replace Vader and Vader taking advantage of being Luke's Father and also encouraging Luke to join him and rule the galaxy as father and son and destroy Palpatine... "Luke, you can destroy the Emperor. He has foreseen this." So in a way there can be at least three!
Before Vader and the Emperor are aware that there is another skywalker why wouldn't either Sith plan or seek out a new apprentice? Palpatine may keep an eye out for a new apprentice (eventually that was Luke) just in case something were to happen to Darth Vader... and Vader may secretly look for and/or have an apprentice to eventually overthrow palpatine... its the way of the Sith. Palpatine would have been just fine with a Rule of One just the same... Just my thoughts....
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GiovanniDekkers
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In that case the Inquisitor , could maybe be seen as Vader's Apprentice, with Sidious's approval.What bothers me though is that the Sith can't really trust eachother so seeing the Inquisitor as a third true fullgrown Sith-Wielder, mmmm I don't know....Palpatine has his hands full with Vader already.....on a tight leash.To me it would seem that a third Sith party be out of the question officially untill there was somekind of tension between the Master and his Pupil, Dooku became Tyrannus (he used to be Jinn's Jedi Mentor) after Maul got defeated, after that Tyrannus was just a pawn to Sidious a means to get to Anakin Skywalker.
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Edwardowan
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until episode 2 Attack of the clones was released we don't know that Dooku wasn't already a Sith. nothing in the films states Dooku became Tyrannus only after Maul was defeated. He was Jinn's jedi mentor long ago and disappeared during the reign of sidious/maul (presumably to learn of and practice the dark side of the force.) so I still say Count Dooku was out there and there were three... at least... Dooku may have been with others but killed them... If Luke had turned to the dark side to join his father would there not then be three? and would they immediately go after sidious or would sidious just wait it out and see if Luke and Vader would turn on each other? so not only just two at all times in my point of view... nothing says an apprentice only takes on an apprentice after killing the master... just speculating. and isn't there always somekind of tension between the Master and his Pupil? Vader didn't necessarily like being under pal patine's thumb... especially after learning of Luke... and the emperor suddenly didn't trust vader after learning of his knowledge of Luke.... can he be turned? yes, he could be a powerful ally! can it be done? (what was pal patine's motivation there in allowing vader to lure and turn luke? right? )
"I have *felt* him, my master.
The Emperor: Strange that I have not. I wonder if your feelings on this matter are clear, Lord Vader.
Darth Vader: They are clear, my master."
Tension!
If Luke had turned to the dark side to join his father would there not then be three? and would they immediately go after sidious or would sidious just wait it out and see if Luke and Vader would turn on each other? so not only just two at all times in my point of view... nothing says an apprentice only takes on an apprentice after killing the master... just speculating. and isn't there always somekind of tension between the Master and his Pupil? Vader didn't necessarily like being under pal patine's thumb... especially after learning of Luke... and the emperor suddenly didn't trust vader after learning of his knowledge of Luke.... can he be turned? yes, he could be a powerful ally! can it be done? (what was pal patine's motivation there in allowing vader to lure and turn luke? right? )"I have *felt* him, my master.
The Emperor: Strange that I have not. I wonder if your feelings on this matter are clear, Lord Vader.
Darth Vader: They are clear, my master."
Tension!
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GiovanniDekkers
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Edwardowan
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says Yoda... but he too was wrong about a great many things. The dark side clouds everything.
Edwardowan
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Palpatine was ready to find a replacement a couple of times anyway... Vader was getting old, weak and unable to use the dark side as well as Sidious.. more machine than man... he was ready to replace Dooku with Anakin and eventual Anakin/Vader with Luke...
"Soon I will have a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful." So to me if Vader or the Emperor were successful in turning Luke Palpy's intentions were for Luke to replace Vader... Patience, my friend. In time, he will seek *you* out, and when he does, you must bring him before me. So for a short time... there would be three of them until Luke killed Vader... unless semantics dictate that the apprentice isn't considered a Sith until he kills one or the other and takes the side of the victor. (yes, Luke could kill vader without having be a DarkSide user if he wanted to actually end his own father's life... and why not? then turn on Palpy and they would all be gone! )
In the end I agree the Inquisitor isn't nor should be a full Sith...whether or not he is an apprentice to Vader we have yet to see but if he uses the force in any way along with his sabers then I would consider him a Sith in training.. .perhaps an episode will clear that up... I'm okay with Vader having one... perhaps even then Palpatine was hoping Vader's apprentice would turn on him and replace him giving palpatine a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful.
"Soon I will have a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful." So to me if Vader or the Emperor were successful in turning Luke Palpy's intentions were for Luke to replace Vader... Patience, my friend. In time, he will seek *you* out, and when he does, you must bring him before me. So for a short time... there would be three of them until Luke killed Vader... unless semantics dictate that the apprentice isn't considered a Sith until he kills one or the other and takes the side of the victor. (yes, Luke could kill vader without having be a DarkSide user if he wanted to actually end his own father's life... and why not? then turn on Palpy and they would all be gone!
)In the end I agree the Inquisitor isn't nor should be a full Sith...whether or not he is an apprentice to Vader we have yet to see but if he uses the force in any way along with his sabers then I would consider him a Sith in training.. .perhaps an episode will clear that up... I'm okay with Vader having one... perhaps even then Palpatine was hoping Vader's apprentice would turn on him and replace him giving palpatine a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful.
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