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[Mara Jade's Father]

Yes, my argument is ridiculous. That's the point. It is as ridiculous as yours. Sure apples and oranges but still fruit. The real difference is I know my example was ridiculous, you are still clueless. And once again, you do need everything spelled out for you.

 

[Wolfsburg]

Good lord. You can barely formulate an argument so you turn to insults. I remember you actually argued with me a few years ago about how the Story Group wasn't real or some such nonsense. It was laughable then and laughable now that you're calling someone else clueless. It is apples and oranges so your argument is invalid. That's not a minor detail. You seem to have difficulty comprehending that you're beating a dead horse. Can't you understand that I'm agreeing with you? I was fine not knowing where the fighters came from, so I'm not sure how you come to bizarre conclusion that I'm the one that needs things spelled out. That's all you.

If you think I would suggest a ship we've already seen no longer exists because we no longer see it, you have completely misconstrued what I've said. I fail to see how coming to the conclusion that two ships we had NEVER seen before might've been new additions when we finally DO see them is such an absurd thing. Was that really such an unreasonable conclusion to come to in 1983, even if it was erroneous? I preferred that notion that they were new (which you seem to take a bizarre amount of umbrage toward), but I know the canon now definitively states otherwise and now has to devise an explanation of why we didn't see them in ANH or TESB. Rather than simply being new, more advanced fighters at the time of ROTJ they now existed all along and were conveniently located at other rebel bases, which apparently there were a plethora of. That's the canon.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

...Rather than simply being new, more advanced fighters at the time of ROTJ they now existed all along and were conveniently located at other rebel bases, which apparently there were a plethora of.

 

[Wolfsburg]

Classic!

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

The Mon Cal have a rep of being good starship engineers. I have no problem with a small, maverick design/build team putting the B-Wing prototype together in a garage. I need to dig around, but there was a story about a decade ago about a guy who wanted a Lamborghini Countach but 1) couldn't afford one, 2) he wouldn't fit in one, and 3) they were kinda crap. So he, being of an engineering inclination, got some drawings, turned them into proper plans, scaled them to his height, and built the whole thing in his basement -- frame, suspension, aluminum body panels, the works. And ended up with a better-put-together car than the original production item. So it's not remotely outlandish to me. It's not like Quarrie was inventing hyperdrive or laser weaponry to go along with it. I imagine there was a lot off-the-shelf in there. Which, incidentally, is why the Air Force went with the F-22 over the F-23 -- more already-available parts.

And I don't get the impression there's a "plethora" of Rebel cells out there. Maybe a dozen or so small groups lie the Ghost crew, and a couple larger networks.

--Jonah

 

[astroboy]

I think the only thing that's bugging me about this b-wing is that stupid superweapon that can destroy starships.


That and the name "quarrie". It feels like modern star wars is about draining every last drop from the Ralph mcquarrie well that they can.

We get it. His renderings were inspiring.

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[Wolfsburg]

The Mon Cal have a rep of being good starship engineers. I have no problem with a small, maverick design/build team putting the B-Wing prototype together in a garage. I need to dig around, but there was a story about a decade ago about a guy who wanted a Lamborghini Countach but 1) couldn't afford one, 2) he wouldn't fit in one, and 3) they were kinda crap. So he, being of an engineering inclination, got some drawings, turned them into proper plans, scaled them to his height, and built the whole thing in his basement -- frame, suspension, aluminum body panels, the works. And ended up with a better-put-together car than the original production item. So it's not remotely outlandish to me. It's not like Quarrie was inventing hyperdrive or laser weaponry to go along with it. I imagine there was a lot off-the-shelf in there. Which, incidentally, is why the Air Force went with the F-22 over the F-23 -- more already-available parts.

And I don't get the impression there's a "plethora" of Rebel cells out there. Maybe a dozen or so small groups lie the Ghost crew, and a couple larger networks.

--Jonah

Yeah, I've heard that story before. Impressive for sure but he did have an existing car as a springboard for his ideas at least. I wasn't under the impression a design team put together the B-wing prototype, only Quarrie. Maybe I missed that detail. If Quarrie had built something like a speeder and not a fully-armed military grade space fighter, I'd be less inclined to find it silly. For me, that'd be akin to a guy being able to build, not a homemade Countach but a fully functional fifth generation fighter in his backyard simply because he has an inclination for aviation engineering. Regardless, I'm willing to accept it not because I think it's a good idea or even plausible but because this is fantasy...That's a crutch but it's reasoning I'm finding myself increasingly having to use. It's canon now so whatever...

As an addendum, if Quarrie was meant to honor Ralph McQuarrie that's well and fine but Joe Johnston designed the B-wing.

 

[Laspector]

I've always kind of thought that the B-wing was maybe cobbled together by the model department. I mean, if you look at it, you could get the idea that one day someone grabbed a wing off a large scale x-wing, then took a couple wings off a smaller scale x-wing, and a cockpit off a Millenium Falcon and hooked them all together. Then the design evolved from there.

Of course, that is just my theory. Could be completely wrong.

 

[Riceball]

Yeah, I've heard that story before. Impressive for sure but he did have an existing car as a springboard for his ideas at least. I wasn't under the impression a design team put together the B-wing prototype, only Quarrie. Maybe I missed that detail. If Quarrie had built something like a speeder and not a fully-armed military grade space fighter, I'd be less inclined to find it silly. For me, that'd be akin to a guy being able to build, not a homemade Countach but a fully functional fifth generation fighter in his backyard simply because he has an inclination for aviation engineering. Regardless, I'm willing to accept it not because I think it's a good idea or even plausible but because this is fantasy...That's a crutch but it's reasoning I'm finding myself increasingly having to use. It's canon now so whatever...

As an addendum, if Quarrie was meant to honor Ralph McQuarrie that's well and fine but Joe Johnston designed the B-wing.

Unbelievable, maybe, impossible, probably not. You are talking about a society far more advanced than our own and a species with unknown traits that possibly could make them far better engineers than the best human. Who's to say that he didn't build it with help from other, unknowing engineers, on the Star Wars equivalent of message boards? We've also seen that he has at least one astromech to help him, maybe he also has some pit droids or more specialized engineering droids to help him and a serious computer too?

At any rate, I found it much more believable than when on BSG Chief Tryol built and designed his own stealth starfighter with the justifcation being that years of fixing Vipers taught him how to design and build one.

 

[astroboy]

At any rate, I found it much more believable than when on BSG Chief Tryol built and designed his own stealth starfighter with the justifcation being that years of fixing Vipers taught him how to design and build one.

I loved that episode when it came out. I was so immersed in their story that I was in tears when it finally flew.

But like all things Galactica......it doesn't age all that well

 

[kegas76]

Unbelievable, maybe, impossible, probably not. You are talking about a society far more advanced than our own and a species with unknown traits that possibly could make them far better engineers than the best human. Who's to say that he didn't build it with help from other, unknowing engineers, on the Star Wars equivalent of message boards? We've also seen that he has at least one astromech to help him, maybe he also has some pit droids or more specialized engineering droids to help him and a serious computer too?

I figured he also has half a dozen Ugnaughts in a workshop on a lower level.

 

[Wolfsburg]

Yes! That must be it!

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

 

[astroboy]

When is ezra gonna man-up and kill a Stormtrooper?

 

[Laspector]

You really think Disney is going to let a kid kill someone?

You know what would be nice? If they would actually just let him grow up, period. I don't know the official timeline of the show, but I would estimate he has been with them for about a year now, and he was what, about 14 at the beginning? Shouldn't he be a few inches taller now?

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

I think the growth will happen at some point.

I really liked the episode. Enjoyed the flow and the dialog. Loved the comments about the armor.

 

[Halliwax]

have to admit i really enjoyed this last one. i liked the kanan rex chemistry

 

[kegas76]

You really think Disney is going to let a kid kill someone?

You know what would be nice? If they would actually just let him grow up, period. I don't know the official timeline of the show, but I would estimate he has been with them for about a year now, and he was what, about 14 at the beginning? Shouldn't he be a few inches taller now?

Also have him start growing a high school mustache.

 

[astroboy]

I would really love if they started doing longer story arcs. The clone wars had that figured out. No matter the quality of the story, these 22 minute adventures always feel like sitcoms

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