Darth Lars
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Oh.. I didn't think you really meant that they actually use them to fly until I looked it up.... that silly helicopter away thing they did with their useless spinning lightsabers that they did in the cartoons ...
Oh.. I didn't think you really meant that they actually use them to fly until I looked it up.... that silly helicopter away thing they did with their useless spinning lightsabers that they did in the cartoons ...
That’s what I figured until there was a YouTube video of him talking about it.. idk maybe he was trying to ease over the backlashSince that happened at the end of Season 2, and Filoni stepped back from day-to-day involvement of Rebels in Season 3, I wonder if there's some overlap there, that he was already focusing on his new position by the time these things came along. I like to think so anyway.
Oh.. I didn't think you really meant that they actually use them to fly until I looked it up.
Thank you for this!!! Spot onThink about the power dynamic during this time in the story. Not only have the Jedi been deemed traitors to the government but they were summarily executed. Since they had no virtually no allies to defend them or clear their names and at least during ROTS there was no Rebellion, what choice did Obi-Wan or Yoda really have? Either they fight, outnumbered and risk having Luke or Leia murdered, or they go into hiding and protect the whereabouts/ known existence of the Chosen One's children a secret in the slim hope that they might rise up one day to restore order to the galaxy. This makes Obi-Wan and Yoda's exile selfless, rather than selfish because they weren't just going off to sulk like cowards.
As a character arc, it speaks to Obi-Wan's nobility that he recognized his fault in training Anakin and spent the rest of his life protecting the children that would one day make things right. Luke Skywalker is Obi-Wan's redemption, which means protecting him is the key to everything being made right. So in essense not only is Anakin redeemed by the end of ROTJ, but Luke succeeds in stopping Vader, something that Obi-Wan was unable to do and ultimately means that Obi-Wan's sacrifice to protect and train Luke was not in vain. Not only that but Luke exceeded his mentors by taking a path that neither Obi-Wan nor Yoda could forsee and instead of killing his father, helped turn Anakin back to the light by believing that Anakin maintained a spark of his humanity.
In this way each of the Jedi maintains their nobility. They're all flawed but ultimately prove their worth by the choices they make and isn't the good vs. evil story of Star Wars more about the choices the characters make rather than their inherent temperament? This is why the narrative is more rich than people tend to give it credit for. It may deal with those timeless themes of morality but the narrative challenges the characters in ways that speaks to their flawed humanity because their choices are what define them rather than where they come from.
To this end I think the possibility of all this meaning is potentially undermined by the slightest deviation from the existing material. So if the writers move to change these things I think they should tread very carefully.
In the Rebels show. I don't know how Maul found him but here it is.So Obi and Maul met again after TPM?
now it's even more confusing, especially if they just pass over it like nothing even happened. After watching the Empire Strikes Back, in Luke's training he faces Darth Vader on Dagobah in a vision or whatever, i wonder if that's the direction they will go with the Obi-Wan show...like Obiwan goes through trials while being taught by Quigons force ghost, fearing that he will fail protecting Luke from Vader and has a similar experience and premonition that he must face Vader again at some point and that's where Hayden comes in.CopperRevan
The fight between Maul and Ben happens 2BBY, so it’s highly likely it won’t have already happened in this show.
There was a small comic run of what obiwan did on tatoonie when Luke was probably 10-11 years old. I thought it was really really goodnow it's even more confusing, especially if they just pass over it like nothing even happened. After watching the Empire Strikes Back, in Luke's training he faces Darth Vader on Dagobah in a vision or whatever, i wonder if that's the direction they will go with the Obi-Wan show...like Obiwan goes through trials while being taught by Quigons force ghost, fearing that he will fail protecting Luke from Vader and has a similar experience and premonition that he must face Vader again at some point and that's where Hayden comes in.
Thanks for posting that. It seems to confirm my suspicion that the show is just ridiculous fan service. The attempt at dramatic tension in that scene was comical, the creators should be embarrassed for ever producing it, even in a cartoon.In the Rebels show. I don't know how Maul found him but here it is.
I never referred to the cartoon as stupid but I do continuously judge entertainment, just like everyone else does.The fight between Maul and Kenobi is built up throughout that whole season, and it really is a good payoff when you watch it all in order. Maul has lived through a lot by this point and it’s basically the Warriors death that he has been seeking since his “resurrection”. Hard for me to call that fan service but what do I know, I like all these “stupid cartoons” that everyone loves to continuously judge.
Also yes Maul had spider legs at one point but this fight happens probably 15 years past that point and he has had normal cybernetic legs for a while.
They probably think the buzz it'll create is worth more than keeping it a surprise.Something I find odd about this whole thing is the very fact they've openly talked about this Obi-wan/Vader rematch. Doesn't that seem like a big thing to just blatantly spoil? Clearly they must not deem it important enough to keep secret so one wonders why that is considering how tight lipped LFL historically has been for things that matter?