Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)

[ScourgiousJinx]

Having Vader return to fight Obi-Wan is not the same as resurrecting Maul. Maul was a barely developed character but was also dead until the completely unnecessary retcon. Vader whose character at this point is still alive but has been beyond over played and needs to be left alone as per over exposure. We don't need more fan service.

 

[Wolfsburg]

Well obviously they wouldn't be doing a show if Obi-wan merely sat there and watched over Luke (which I would've preferred happen and thus not have a show but here we are). And Maul coming back was one of the dumbest things to ever happen in SW as far as I'm concerned.

 

[robstyle]

In ANH when Obi Wan went to face Vader he knew what he liked like as Vader. If that is taken at face value then they had prior met after Anakin became Vader. Hence Vader in the Obi Wan series. What if Obi Wan has to go to another planet / location to communicate with his peers as Yoda had mentioned. And Vader finds out about the location. They wouldn't have to face off but they could share screen time.

 

[nickytea]

"Obi-Wan once thought as you do."

That one line from ROTJ leaves a lot of room for this show to occupy, because nothing else in the series really addresses it.

 

[Halliwax]

So help me ****** this duel better be a force vision or a nightmare vader is having..

Vader would NEVER step one foot back on tatoonie.. and Ben would NEVER leave with out Luke..

The more and more I’m seeing… the more and more I’m questioning does Filoni and favreau really know Star Wars…

 

[harrisonp]

So help me ****** this duel better be a force vision or a nightmare vader is having..

Vader would NEVER step one foot back on tatoonie.. and Ben would NEVER leave with out Luke..

The more and more I’m seeing… the more and more I’m questioning does Filoni and favreau really know Star Wars…

AFAIK Filoni and Favreau aren’t involved in this.

 

[FastballSpecial]

I just want to see his lightsaber. Let's get a half weathered ROTS saber please.

 

[Halliwax]

AFAIK Filoni and Favreau aren’t involved in this.

I’ve lost total hope now…

 

[ScourgiousJinx]

Vader would NEVER step one foot back on tatoonie.. and Ben would NEVER leave with out Luke..

As much as I entirely agree with that sentiment, unfortunately Lucasfilm does not. Vader has been back to Tatooine on several occasions in canon comics in 2015 although post ANH. First to strike a deal with Jabba the Hutt, then later he goes back actually visiting the Lars Homestead and Obi-Wan's hut looking for answers about Luke. Not sure if there's more.

 

[Halliwax]

As much as I entirely agree with that sentiment, unfortunately Lucasfilm does not. Vader has been back to Tatooine on several occasions in canon comics in 2015 although post ANH. First to strike a deal with Jabba the Hutt, then later he goes back actually visiting the Lars Homestead and Obi-Wan's hut looking for answers about Luke. Not sure if there's more.

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I remember these comics and was totally against it back then. (Vader talking to Jabba the Hutt… really?) Now with the series on Disney plus, it seems they change what ever they want

I don’t count anything in the books anymore as canon when the Disney plus series are now changing what ever they want

 

[JoeG]

No trailer released today, but if you have Disney+ there is a BTS video.

 

[Psab keel]

This was the only clip I could find of it.

So yeah. This confirms a number of things theorized and directly quoted about the show. A number of locations which implies he's not on Tatooinne for the whole thing. Another duel with Anakin which Kathleen herself confirmed a while back. Ewan is great as Kenobi, but I just feel this is breaking the continuity and undermines the character's motivation for staying in hiding and watching over Luke. You know they'll try and top the duel in ROTS and since so many fans think of the duel in ANH is "boring" it should be "better" than that. I think the confrontation in the original film, while simple in it's choreogprahy is still far and away one of the most iconic because of the way it's built up right from the beginning of the movie.

It also means that going into hiding wasn't all that important or necessary if he's just going to go on missions across the galaxy. Or that protecting Luke or his whereabouts isn't as paramount as the previous material made it seem. Plus if Kenobi has to leave the planet in order to preserve knowledge of Luke's location then it's proof that the location itself is compromised. So unless he's prepared to take Luke under his personal care and live their lives on the run, I don't see how that explanation can really be justified without breaking the established events.

How disppointing. This is the danger of telling more stories of known characters and ones that take place between benchmark points in their lives. We know he won't/ can't die which right off the bat cuts out a huge element of the tension because the stakes can't be insurmountable.

This just plays into the idea that fans just want more of something rather than having it actually serve the story best. Again I think Ewan is great and if this were a character study and smaller scope tale that stayed within the confines of the existing films I would be more open to the idea.

 

[Ron]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you must do a show like this then just set it during the Clone Wars and forget trying to shoehorn stories in that break canon. They're both still young enough looking to where it would be believable and it would be a better show anyway.

 

[Bigdaddy]

All I know is I don't want to see Obi-Wan sitting around inside a house being Emo crying half the day and meditating the other half with random moments of staring off at distant child playing in the sand.

That's the most likely scenario of what he would have been up to though. Anything worthy of producing a show about would be activity that would have attracted unwanted attention from the empire or take him too far away from Luke to serve as an effective guardian. The inclusion of Vader pretty much killed the small interest I had in this.

 

[harrisonp]

The only thing that can possibly sway my opinion of Obi/Ben leaving the planet is if Owen, Beru, and Luke come under threat while he’s gone which then leads to him settling down for the remainder of his exile. This is hopefully an Obi-Wan that is learning his new place in the galaxy, Luke’s life being directly threatened may be the moment that defines his path going forward.

Also is it stated explicitly anywhere that Obi is going to watch over Luke forever once he hands him over to the Lars’? I’m not trying to excuse them, but if there’s a loophole you can be sure they’ll utilize it.

 

[Lightning]

All I know is I don't want to see Obi-Wan sitting around inside a house being Emo crying half the day and meditating the other half with random moments of staring off at distant child playing in the sand.

Well obviously they wouldn't be doing a show if Obi-wan merely sat there and watched over Luke (which I would've preferred happen and thus not have a show but here we are)

Personally, there needs to be some excitement/challenge in his protecting of Luke becuse otherwise his sacrificing 18 years of his life was useless, and he would have been better off helping the rebellion all that time. Justifying Yoda going into exile is hard enough, I'd like Obi-Wan's decision to have actully been the right one.

 

[Halliwax]

hashbrown# done

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

I still say, him leaving the planet can work, IF, someone finds out about Luke/Obi Wan, & instead of transmitting the info, wants to hand deliver it. If Obi Wan is chasing them down before he can be found out, I think that could work.

From the concept art shown on the Disney+ BTS stuff, there's what looks like an Inquisitor's ship on Tattooine.

 

[Psab keel]

Think about the power dynamic during this time in the story. Not only have the Jedi been deemed traitors to the government but they were summarily executed. Since they had no virtually no allies to defend them or clear their names and at least during ROTS there was no Rebellion, what choice did Obi-Wan or Yoda really have? Either they fight, outnumbered and risk having Luke or Leia murdered, or they go into hiding and protect the whereabouts/ known existence of the Chosen One's children a secret in the slim hope that they might rise up one day to restore order to the galaxy. This makes Obi-Wan and Yoda's exile selfless, rather than selfish because they weren't just going off to sulk like cowards.

As a character arc, it speaks to Obi-Wan's nobility that he recognized his fault in training Anakin and spent the rest of his life protecting the children that would one day make things right. Luke Skywalker is Obi-Wan's redemption, which means protecting him is the key to everything being made right. So in essense not only is Anakin redeemed by the end of ROTJ, but Luke succeeds in stopping Vader, something that Obi-Wan was unable to do and ultimately means that Obi-Wan's sacrifice to protect and train Luke was not in vain. Not only that but Luke exceeded his mentors by taking a path that neither Obi-Wan nor Yoda could forsee and instead of killing his father, helped turn Anakin back to the light by believing that Anakin maintained a spark of his humanity.

In this way each of the Jedi maintains their nobility. They're all flawed but ultimately prove their worth by the choices they make and isn't the good vs. evil story of Star Wars more about the choices the characters make rather than their inherent temperament? This is why the narrative is more rich than people tend to give it credit for. It may deal with those timeless themes of morality but the narrative challenges the characters in ways that speaks to their flawed humanity because their choices are what define them rather than where they come from.

To this end I think the possibility of all this meaning is potentially undermined by the slightest deviation from the existing material. So if the writers move to change these things I think they should tread very carefully.

 

[Ron]

Think about the power dynamic during this time in the story. Not only have the Jedi been deemed traitors to the government but they were summarily executed. Since they had no virtually no allies to defend them or clear their names and at least during ROTS there was no Rebellion, what choice did Obi-Wan or Yoda really have? Either they fight, outnumbered and risk having Luke or Leia murdered, or they go into hiding and protect the whereabouts/ known existence of the Chosen One's children a secret in the slim hope that they might rise up one day to restore order to the galaxy. This makes Obi-Wan and Yoda's exile selfless, rather than selfish because they weren't just going off to sulk like cowards.

As a character arc, it speaks to Obi-Wan's nobility that he recognized his fault in training Anakin and spent the rest of his life protecting the children that would one day make things right. Luke Skywalker is Obi-Wan's redemption, which means protecting him is the key to everything being made right. So in essense not only is Anakin redeemed by the end of ROTJ, but Luke succeeds in stopping Vader, something that Obi-Wan was unable to do and ultimately means that Obi-Wan's sacrifice to protect and train Luke was not in vain. Not only that but Luke exceeded his mentors by taking a path that neither Obi-Wan nor Yoda could forsee and instead of killing his father, helped turn Anakin back to the light by believing that Anakin maintained a spark of his humanity.

In this way each of the Jedi maintains their nobility. They're all flawed but ultimately prove their worth by the choices they make and isn't the good vs. evil story of Star Wars more about the choices the characters make rather than their inherent temperament? This is why the narrative is more rich than people tend to give it credit for. It may deal with those timeless themes of morality but the narrative challenges the characters in ways that speaks to their flawed humanity because their choices are what define them rather than where they come from.

To this end I think the possibility of all this meaning is potentially undermined by the slightest deviation from the existing material. So if the writers move to change these things I think they should tread very carefully.

1000% right on the money.