Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)

The last thing I would want to see in this show are the goofy-looking and hamfisted “inquisitors”. They’re diet Sith (because there can be only two, for reasons), but ya gotta have lightsaber fights, hokey dialogue, and pretty much just the worst costume/prop design I’ve seen. I hope, if they do make an appearance, they do that silly helicopter away thing they did with their useless spinning lightsabers that they did in the cartoons, that’ll really help me feel the tension.
 
Psab keel said:
Think about the power dynamic during this time in the story. Not only have the Jedi been deemed traitors to the government but they were summarily executed. Since they had no virtually no allies to defend them or clear their names and at least during ROTS there was no Rebellion, what choice did Obi-Wan or Yoda really have? Either they fight, outnumbered and risk having Luke or Leia murdered, or they go into hiding and protect the whereabouts/ known existence of the Chosen One's children a secret in the slim hope that they might rise up one day to restore order to the galaxy. This makes Obi-Wan and Yoda's exile selfless, rather than selfish because they weren't just going off to sulk like cowards.

As a character arc, it speaks to Obi-Wan's nobility that he recognized his fault in training Anakin and spent the rest of his life protecting the children that would one day make things right. Luke Skywalker is Obi-Wan's redemption, which means protecting him is the key to everything being made right. So in essense not only is Anakin redeemed by the end of ROTJ, but Luke succeeds in stopping Vader, something that Obi-Wan was unable to do and ultimately means that Obi-Wan's sacrifice to protect and train Luke was not in vain. Not only that but Luke exceeded his mentors by taking a path that neither Obi-Wan nor Yoda could forsee and instead of killing his father, helped turn Anakin back to the light by believing that Anakin maintained a spark of his humanity.

In this way each of the Jedi maintains their nobility. They're all flawed but ultimately prove their worth by the choices they make and isn't the good vs. evil story of Star Wars more about the choices the characters make rather than their inherent temperament? This is why the narrative is more rich than people tend to give it credit for. It may deal with those timeless themes of morality but the narrative challenges the characters in ways that speaks to their flawed humanity because their choices are what define them rather than where they come from.

To this end I think the possibility of all this meaning is potentially undermined by the slightest deviation from the existing material. So if the writers move to change these things I think they should tread very carefully.
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Beautifully put.. someone please email this to lucasfilm
 
While Inquisitors have existed for a long time (Jerec in 1997’s Dark Forces II was an ex-Inquisitor turned post-ROTJ warlord), Ive never much liked the idea either. Though perhaps not realistic, I much preferred the notion that Vader spent those intervening 20 years hunting down and killing Jedi stragglers himself, per Obi-wan’s ANH dialogue.
 
Psab keel said:
Think about the power dynamic during this time in the story. Not only have the Jedi been deemed traitors to the government but they were summarily executed. Since they had no virtually no allies to defend them or clear their names and at least during ROTS there was no Rebellion, what choice did Obi-Wan or Yoda really have? Either they fight, outnumbered and risk having Luke or Leia murdered, or they go into hiding and protect the whereabouts/ known existence of the Chosen One's children a secret in the slim hope that they might rise up one day to restore order to the galaxy. This makes Obi-Wan and Yoda's exile selfless, rather than selfish because they weren't just going off to sulk like cowards.

As a character arc, it speaks to Obi-Wan's nobility that he recognized his fault in training Anakin and spent the rest of his life protecting the children that would one day make things right. Luke Skywalker is Obi-Wan's redemption, which means protecting him is the key to everything being made right. So in essense not only is Anakin redeemed by the end of ROTJ, but Luke succeeds in stopping Vader, something that Obi-Wan was unable to do and ultimately means that Obi-Wan's sacrifice to protect and train Luke was not in vain. Not only that but Luke exceeded his mentors by taking a path that neither Obi-Wan nor Yoda could forsee and instead of killing his father, helped turn Anakin back to the light by believing that Anakin maintained a spark of his humanity.

In this way each of the Jedi maintains their nobility. They're all flawed but ultimately prove their worth by the choices they make and isn't the good vs. evil story of Star Wars more about the choices the characters make rather than their inherent temperament? This is why the narrative is more rich than people tend to give it credit for. It may deal with those timeless themes of morality but the narrative challenges the characters in ways that speaks to their flawed humanity because their choices are what define them rather than where they come from.

To this end I think the possibility of all this meaning is potentially undermined by the slightest deviation from the existing material. So if the writers move to change these things I think they should tread very carefully.
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Wonderfully said. There are so many ways this thing can go wrong that I’d prefer them just leave it alone.
 
Wolfsburg said:
While Inquisitors have existed for a long time (Jerec in 1997’s Dark Forces II was an ex-Inquisitor turned post-ROTJ warlord), Ive never much liked the idea either. Though perhaps not realistic, I much preferred the notion that Vader spent those intervening 20 years hunting down and killing Jedi stragglers himself, per Obi-wan’s ANH dialogue.
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I liked in dark empire 2 how they just had dark force users capturing the Jedi for the emperor to interrogate
 
So.. I’m sitting here pouting.. stomping my feet and crossing my arms thinking.. I don’t want obiwan to leave..
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But.. listening to Alex from Star Wars explaining he just brought up a good point… if the empire gets tail of kenobi on tatoonie.. his safest option for Luke is getting the hell out of there..

I think I can except this
 
The problem for me there would be that this would really only make sense if he never went back to Tatooine. I might could accept the notion that Obi-wan is protecting Luke by luring the Empire away from him but there’s no way Obi-wan could kill every Imperial that would surely now know he’s alive once he was discovered and thus it wouldn’t make sense for him to ever return since logically he’d be on the radar for good. Even if they lost track of him, they surely wouldn’t just forget he’d been hiding on Tatooine after being discovered there. And we’ve also got to deal with Tarkin’s dialogue that Obi-wan “must surely be dead by now”, implying he hasnt been seen in ages but the Empire apparently has no record of his death. This show will really have to do some contortions to preserve that line of dialogue. Otherwise Vader would be like “well, uh…remember he was alive just a few years ago so…”
 
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The critical question from the marketing division is, what “hook” do they have, like “Baby Yoda”??

Yes, we’ve got to have a “Baby Yoda”…

You see, the marketing numbers clearly show that “Baby [Insert]” is now the key draw for Star Wars fans. Every show must have a “Baby Something” moving forward.

Will “Baby Luke” be the next “Baby Yoda”?

Or, maybe….OK, get this! Maybe Vader spends his time with “Baby Snokes” (plural)….

Yes! “Baby Snokes”! That’s the ticket!! The fans will love them!

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“Baby Snokes” that you can grow in a jar, like…like “Sea Monkeys”! “Baby Snokes” that we can purchase as plush toys at Disneyland!

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Meh I don’t really care about helicopter sabers when it’s not really used that frequently. Rebels has enough that I love in it to counteract the silliness of that element for me. I also highly doubt we’ll ever see it in live action.
 
ALLEY said:
The critical question from the marketing division is, what “hook” do they have, like “Baby Yoda”??

Yes, we’ve got to have a “Baby Yoda”…

You see, the marketing numbers clearly show that “Baby [Insert]” is now the key draw for Star Wars fans. Every show must have a “Baby Something” moving forward.

Will “Baby Luke” be the next “Baby Yoda”?

Or, maybe….OK, get this! Maybe Vader spends his time with “Baby Snokes” (plural)….

Yes! “Baby Snokes”! That’s the ticket!! The fans will love them!

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“Baby Snokes” that you can grow in a jar, like…like “Sea Monkeys”! “Baby Snokes” that we can purchase as plush toys at Disneyland!

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I WANT BABY SNOKES!
 
Yeah, stuff like that has always prevented me from drinking the Filoni Kool-Aid. I never did get the appeal of The Clone Wars and I stopped watching Rebels when apparently a kindly old man somehow built a cutting edge fighter like the B-wing, complete with Death Star-like laser. Fine if you want to make a show for kids but none of this should be canon. I must've stopped watching before the helicopter Inquisitors made their appearance! So much of his stuff is filler and he seems to try to shoehorn stuff from his prior shows into the new projects he's involved with. I can only assume Favreau must keep Filoni reeled in somewhat with The Mandalorian.
 
Halliwax said:
I couldn’t believe Filoni supported that lol then again it is a “kids” show…
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Since that happened at the end of Season 2, and Filoni stepped back from day-to-day involvement of Rebels in Season 3, I wonder if there's some overlap there, that he was already focusing on his new position by the time these things came along. I like to think so anyway. ;)
 
I definitely don't want them to retcon the confrontation between Obi and Vader in ANH, that would be very annoying. But I am excited to see concept art with the Second Sister from the Jedi: Fallen Order video game. She was a pretty cool villain with an interesting story, had a rad design, and our first 'live action' version of an Inquisitor that was quite menacing and well done. I think she will make a compelling adversary for Obi-wan alongside Vader, who she also has some history with
 
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