Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)

I think the most basic explanation is that Tatooine was supposed to be essentially nowhere. A frontier planet with no Imperial oversight or interest and little in the way of technology or anyone of importance. What better place to hide?
 
I like elements and ideas within that trilogy, but as movies they're bad. I tried watching them again a few years back now and had to shut them off. I just couldn't get through it.
 
Sluis Van Shipyards said:
Why is it lame? Are you seriously saying you would be totally emotionless if your mom was tortured and then died in your arms? I doubt it. I think it's a pretty good explanation for why he wouldn't go back.

Vader is trying really hard in those 20 years to totally kill off any trace of Anakin. We see it in the OT when he's struggling with finding Luke. If you're that big on thinking he's a wuss for missing his mom, you must really hate that he went back to the Light Side because he loved his son!

I think too many fans want Vader to be Michael Myers, just brainlessly slaughtering everyone, where I think after the Prequels, him being a tragic figure is a heck of a lot more interesting.
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I'm thinking that he can go to a place and be reminded of bad memories. But he's also a tough guy, supposedly the second toughest in the galaxy. And if he felt he needed to go down to the surface himself he would do it. (Whether this counts to anyone, I think it happened in the new EU stuff as Vader paid a visit to Jabba for some reason, an act which would certainly remind him of being a child slave of the Hutt Cartels along with his mother)

I can still think of him as emotionally complex, while still being a total badazz (which certain non-movie elements unwittingly undermine, such as the existence of inquisitors, or having him appear in computer games and TV shows where the good guys still constantly avoid capture and death)

Plus anger, fear, aggression. All good for the Dark Side, and paying a visit to Tatooine would be a good way to let his emotions run riot - just as the Sith teachings promote. What I *don't* see happening is the Emperor saying: "Hey Vader, I need you to go to Tatooine and sort this job out for me personally." while Vader's like: "Uh, nuh-uh. No way!" Which is why all these lame excuses for him not setting foot on Tatooine are just that, excuses to try and explain a plot-hole introduced by TPM, by having Vader grow up on the exact same planet as his own son. Something which George only did to ride on the popularity of Tatooine from the original Star Wars.

Even the original EU made a lot more sense. In the original ROTJ novel, Owen was the brother of Obi-Wan. Obviously they were estranged, but Obi-Wan left Luke with him to be raised in secret, and that's why Owen knows everything, and was reluctant to let Luke go and be a hero and maybe die/turn into another Vader.
 
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Axlotl said:
Thanks, guys, for reminding me how much I despise the prequels, and why.
George wrote the absolute WORST fan fiction ever written, and now it's canon.
If it was written by anyone else you'd all see it for the childish trashfire that it is. But because it's George Lucas it's gospel.
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I still have affection for them, even though I realise they're highly flawed films. A few too many plot holes, effectively missing out the entire Clone Wars, along with some unnecessary cliches. But I still love the Star Warsy backdrop, the art design, the effects, the very occasional flashes of brilliance, and of course, the Emperor.
 
Psab keel said:
There's a couple of inherent problems with that idea though. I've already explained at length how it would undo Obi-Wan's character arc and undermine the nobility of the Jedi who sacrificed everything to protect A New Hope (ie. Luke), but setting that aside for a moment let's consider the logistics of how this would play out.

If we're assuming that the existing saga films are considered canon then it automatically breaks key elements of those established stories. At the end of Revenge of the Sith Vader is told he killed Padme. Luke's existence is unknown to Vader until the attack on the first Death Star in the original film and between that event and the beginning of the Empire Strikes Back he learns that this rebel pilot is his son. Having Vader seek out his offspring between ROTS and ANH would make no logical sense since as far as he knows Padme is dead and the baby died with her. The timeline just doesn't add up. How can Vader or the Empire seek out Vader's offspring who to their knowledge, don't exist?

By hiding Luke and Leia away from the eyes of the Empire (or at the least the knowledge of their lineage in Leia's case) Obi-Wan, Bail Organa, and Yoda by default have the tactical advantage. Now in order to explain this discrepancy, we could assume the writers would have to explain a scenario in which knowledge of Luke existence or Leia's parentage could be divulged to the Empire, but then they have to explain who knows it and more importantly how do they know it?

There were few eye witnesses to their birth and there were hundreds of people who attended Padme's funeral who saw her body with a swollen belly so the reasonable assumption was that the child died with her. Plus only Obi-Wan, Bail, Yoda, and some droids even knew there were twins, so that knowledge was even more limited in terms of who was privvy to it. Unless R2 is some sort of snitch..... ;) Vader didn't even learn of Leia's lineage until the climax of ROTJ, so you can't even factor her into that part of it realistically.

You can't make the excuse that Palpatine knew about the twins either because if he did then he would have sent Vader out to kill them. Even making the claim Palpatine would send others to kill the twins makes even less sense when Vader was his right hand man. Plus having Inquisitors rather than Vader murdering Jedi and Rebels really brings Vader down in stature as Palpatine's apprentice and subdues him as a villain.

Secondly, even if we disregard these factors you still have to consider that by the time news that someone was after Luke reached Obi-Wan, it would be too late. Tatooine is then compromised as an effective hiding place and they would be on the run from the Empire or whoever was after them. I mean it's clear that he lives in isolation and keeping direct contact with key figures in the Rebellion would make him a target so how could anyone warn Obi-Wan? Besides, if Luke's location wasn't that important then why didn't Obi-Wan spend the 20 years between ROTS and ANH helping build the Rebellion? Why did Leia have to seek him out?

It just raises too many questions and breaks too many key story components that would ruin the established works, all for the excuse to have more lightsaber fights and planet hopping. I mean those are fun elements to a story, but if you have to break that much canon to just to have a few flashy elements then I'm not on board with that. At all. Again all of this runs on the assumption that existing canon is actually going to be honored, which we know for a fact is mutable given the way these stories are always handled now.
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I don't recall the part of ANH where he says he gave everything up to sit on tattooine 'just in case' for 20 years. The only place i think it ever comes up is the end of ROTS where Yoda tells him he needs to watch over him. He doesn't say you can't leave under any circumstances. No one even knows he exists.

If vader or an inquisitor were to get close, the smart thing would be to try and lure them away so they don't find him. Not fight them on the spot and out yourself to bring a much larger force down upon you.

Leaving for a week or two over the course of 20 years doesn't undo anything whatsoever.
 
Wolfsburg said:
I honestly kinda wonder how aware Luke even was of Darth Vader. He didn’t seem to obviously know him when Obi-wan was telling him about a “young Jedi named Darth Vader”.

As far as the nature of Obi-wan’s escapades while hiding, for me it’s a clear matter of: just because they can, doesn’t mean they should. Technically they can have Obi-wan bouncing around the galaxy on a giant pogo stick for 20 years, only returning to Tatooine in time to rescue Luke from the sand people…but that doesn’t mean they should.
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Per the end of Rogue one, which is hours before we meet Luke, the rebellion had no idea who he was - even though Kanaan/Ezra and crew ran into him in rebels and asked the same thing 'WTH is that?'. So, seems pretty clearly he was far from a household name at the start of ANH.
 
So a Disney + executive just tweeted Kenobi premiers in may.. then deleted it


He’s now posted it was a mistake and meant a new comic was coming out …

Since when doesn’t Disney + executives post about comics?

May 4th is also a Wednesday
 
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I had seen something about a new Obi-wan comic but I guess we’ll see!

I’d been wondering what had been going on with this show. Didn’t we hear rumors a good while back that there had been some rewrites or internal disagreements?
 
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coolhanluked said:
Its possible. I would think it would come out this year.
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I heard rumors that they weren’t going to make the may dead line, and that they were scattering looking for some time this summer that wouldn’t reflect on anything else coming out during that time

Then last night I saw the tweet.. so I was alittle confused
 
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