Star Wars Ahsoka (tv series)
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NakedMoleRat
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Off to good start. I felt a prequel trilogy vibe which I’m not hating.
But again, why did Qui Gon die from his lightsaber stab when no one else does?
But again, why did Qui Gon die from his lightsaber stab when no one else does?
Finished episode one.
It was OK….perhaps better than I expected.
It was OK….perhaps better than I expected.
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NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
And no one seems to remember Force Run anymore.
Disappointed that we are two episodes in and no Bacta Tank…
Just finished ep 1, like it well enough. Just two things:
1. I don't buy Hera at all, visually nor in performance.
2. FASTER AND MORE INTENSE, please. I felt like I had playback at half speed. Geez Louise it dragged. Not every line of dialogue deserves a pregnant pause! And lots of unnecessary blocking of extraneous business. GET TO THE POINT.
Also, it's been a while. Was Sabine previously established as some kind of whiz-bang code breaker or something?
1. I don't buy Hera at all, visually nor in performance.
2. FASTER AND MORE INTENSE, please. I felt like I had playback at half speed. Geez Louise it dragged. Not every line of dialogue deserves a pregnant pause! And lots of unnecessary blocking of extraneous business. GET TO THE POINT.
Also, it's been a while. Was Sabine previously established as some kind of whiz-bang code breaker or something?
I find it hard to believe The Empire wouldn’t have downloaded Huyang’s database of Jedi and scrapped him, how did he stay hidden all this time?
Also, I Straightened and flipped this, sure looks like Norse Runes. This is the hidden galaxy. Anyone able to translate?
Really curious why they’re bringing the Night Sisters back into this…
Also, I Straightened and flipped this, sure looks like Norse Runes. This is the hidden galaxy. Anyone able to translate?
Really curious why they’re bringing the Night Sisters back into this…
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Wolfsburg
Master Member
Well I was never a huge fan of Rebels (never actually finished it) and always had very mixed feelings about Ahsoka Tano in general...but I honestly did not hate what I've seen so far of this show!
I agree the pacing is a little clunky in places but I thought the show thus far has a nice, overall more traditionally "Star Warsy" feel to it that mostly worked for me. It does slant more toward a prequel-era feel but I expected that, given the subject matter and creative team.
However, I'm curious how this ancient device (that's totally not a thermal detonator) could pinpoint where Thrawn is? Is it the same logic that was applied to an ancient Sith dagger that happened to be formed in the shape of DSII wreckage?
Curious to see how the Nightsisters play into all this...
Thrawn being in another galaxy altogether was somewhat shocking for me and seems like a big deal. At least in the old EU days, traversing to another galaxy was virtually unheard of (with a few notable exceptions like the Yuuzhan Vong). I had assumed at most, he was dragged off and biding time in the Unknown Regions, perhaps even rubbing elbows with Palps. What if they say Thrawn has been in the...Milky Way galaxy? Dun dun dunnnnn...(please, no). I halfway expected them to mention how their galaxy is far, far away...from where Thrawn is. Lol
Interesting how Baylan seems sentimental about the Jedi and that seems to indicate he's not the traditional darksider. I swear he still gives me vibes of what a non-immolated, older Vader could've been like. He has a nicely hulking presence. RIP Ray Stevenson
My eyes rolled mightily when once again we have a character surviving being impaled by a lightsaber. Disney's insistence that this isn't a big deal is truly bizarre. Qui-gon really was a chump, I guess.
Seeing E-wings was neat. Looks like they did away with the third blaster cannon over the cockpit entirely.
Having not finished Rebels, what is this whole deal about Sabine training to be a Jedi? Was her being Force-sensitive hinted at in Rebels? Huyang implied she was not particularly impressive in that regard, which seems weird. A Force-less/mildly Force-sensitive Jedi?
Kinda neat that the Eye of (Darth?) Sion appears to be an enormously upscaled version of the detachable hyperspace rings seen in the prequels. I assume it's just the right size for the Chimaera?
Quibbles aside, I still overall enjoyed it and it is leaving me curious as to what is to come. I'd say that's a successful premiere.
I agree the pacing is a little clunky in places but I thought the show thus far has a nice, overall more traditionally "Star Warsy" feel to it that mostly worked for me. It does slant more toward a prequel-era feel but I expected that, given the subject matter and creative team.
However, I'm curious how this ancient device (that's totally not a thermal detonator) could pinpoint where Thrawn is? Is it the same logic that was applied to an ancient Sith dagger that happened to be formed in the shape of DSII wreckage?
Curious to see how the Nightsisters play into all this...
Thrawn being in another galaxy altogether was somewhat shocking for me and seems like a big deal. At least in the old EU days, traversing to another galaxy was virtually unheard of (with a few notable exceptions like the Yuuzhan Vong). I had assumed at most, he was dragged off and biding time in the Unknown Regions, perhaps even rubbing elbows with Palps. What if they say Thrawn has been in the...Milky Way galaxy? Dun dun dunnnnn...(please, no). I halfway expected them to mention how their galaxy is far, far away...from where Thrawn is. Lol
Interesting how Baylan seems sentimental about the Jedi and that seems to indicate he's not the traditional darksider. I swear he still gives me vibes of what a non-immolated, older Vader could've been like. He has a nicely hulking presence. RIP Ray Stevenson
My eyes rolled mightily when once again we have a character surviving being impaled by a lightsaber. Disney's insistence that this isn't a big deal is truly bizarre. Qui-gon really was a chump, I guess.
Seeing E-wings was neat. Looks like they did away with the third blaster cannon over the cockpit entirely.
Having not finished Rebels, what is this whole deal about Sabine training to be a Jedi? Was her being Force-sensitive hinted at in Rebels? Huyang implied she was not particularly impressive in that regard, which seems weird. A Force-less/mildly Force-sensitive Jedi?
Kinda neat that the Eye of (Darth?) Sion appears to be an enormously upscaled version of the detachable hyperspace rings seen in the prequels. I assume it's just the right size for the Chimaera?
Quibbles aside, I still overall enjoyed it and it is leaving me curious as to what is to come. I'd say that's a successful premiere.
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What I've noticed that effects pacing in a lot of the star wars shows minus Andor out side of action shots, is everything is a wide or mid shot. They don't do a lot of cutting between character conversation in close ups. It makes it feel slower, kind of clunky.
Ahsoka with all that face paint and no eyebrows has hard to read facial expressions unless you get close up on her.
Ahsoka with all that face paint and no eyebrows has hard to read facial expressions unless you get close up on her.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
Really on the slow side. Someone needs to ship them a few cases of red bull to give to the actors before they perform their scenes. If every single thought and statement has the weight of the universe on it it kind of diminishes the significance of them all. It's like Dawson is a live action caricature of cartoon Ahsoka. Ashley Eckstein would've poured her heart out into being Ahsoka.
My interest in this remains mostly because of Rebels and wanting to see what happened to Ezra and Thrawn. It's not horribly bad so far its just not particularly good or exciting. Hope it gets a bit better.
My interest in this remains mostly because of Rebels and wanting to see what happened to Ezra and Thrawn. It's not horribly bad so far its just not particularly good or exciting. Hope it gets a bit better.
VanPersie
Well-Known Member
Not any of the Futharks so likely just a made up version that looks close to them.
Negatives:
- Death seems to be a pretty pointless thing still. What are the stakes, or indeed the point of a lightsaber, if you can’t die from one if you also have a lightsaber in your possession anymore!
- Agree about line delivery and pacing being off.
Neutral:
- I’m not that invested in any of the Rebels characters as I still have yet to watch them all without losing a lot of interest during my attempts to watch, so I can sort of sit back and not have any ideas as to who is potraying the characters well or not.
Positives:
- Love the saber designs of Baylan and Shin. Almost made me consider getting back into sabers.
- Loved the small written tribute to Ray at the end of Ep1.
- Though Baylan and Shin looked great and Ray cut an imposing figure without being over the top with it.
- I did actually enjoy it.
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Big Rebels fan here.
The speeder on the road in the fields of Lothal with the rock and roll and the Nightsisters Stonehenge on the Cliff planet were very JJTrek inspired. Didn’t bother me too much.
The dodgy CG of the early trailer seems to have been fixed and the production value on this is a huge step up from BOBF. It makes Obiwan look way worse in retrospect so far.
2 episodes at 40 min and 50 plus min was a really nice start, hope it stays like that.
And yeah, I am with Wolfsburg on eye roll for another lightsaber impaling survivor.
Still optimistic going forward.
The speeder on the road in the fields of Lothal with the rock and roll and the Nightsisters Stonehenge on the Cliff planet were very JJTrek inspired. Didn’t bother me too much.
The dodgy CG of the early trailer seems to have been fixed and the production value on this is a huge step up from BOBF. It makes Obiwan look way worse in retrospect so far.
2 episodes at 40 min and 50 plus min was a really nice start, hope it stays like that.
And yeah, I am with Wolfsburg on eye roll for another lightsaber impaling survivor.
Still optimistic going forward.
Jodo
Master Member
We went to watch the first episodes last night and my wife fell asleep within minutes…I fell asleep mid-episode two. She was awake long enough to make fun of Hera and Ahsoka’s appearance. When I told her that the actress who plays Hera is Ewan McGregor’s wife, she said that’s the only reason she would have ever got that role.
For me, Hera looks like a really bad cosplay, as if they absolutely caked the makeup on. There’s something about her eyes that makes me cringe.
Agreed on the pacing comments above as well. For a first episode, it really did drag. The second episode was better.
There’s a lot of fan film vibes (which I blame Filoni for) so far. I laughed out loud a few times when I definitely wasn’t supposed to. I found it absolutely bizarre that on the prisoner ship, the second in command was HANDED a pistol during the attack. Why not give her a holster or just cut that beat out? I don’t care where she got the pistol from! And I laughed during the “for the empire!” part of the second episode too.
One aspect that was weird to me, was ending on Sabine being stabbed, which we know is potentially fatal, and then opening the next episode with her being totally fine. It defeats all the stakes. Had Sabine been incapacitated the entire episode, nothing would have even changed. I feel like “stay here and do nothing,” is anti-plot, so why not just have her potentially dying or in a bacta tank?
And totally agree on Thrawn being in a different galaxy (far far away). Also, how would an ancient map know that? It just….You know what, never mind. If it didn’t matter to the production, maybe it shouldn’t matter to me.
Oh well…I’ll still watch the rest. I think it falls into the BOBF and Kenobi category: okay to watch but not to think about.
For me, Hera looks like a really bad cosplay, as if they absolutely caked the makeup on. There’s something about her eyes that makes me cringe.
Agreed on the pacing comments above as well. For a first episode, it really did drag. The second episode was better.
There’s a lot of fan film vibes (which I blame Filoni for) so far. I laughed out loud a few times when I definitely wasn’t supposed to. I found it absolutely bizarre that on the prisoner ship, the second in command was HANDED a pistol during the attack. Why not give her a holster or just cut that beat out? I don’t care where she got the pistol from! And I laughed during the “for the empire!” part of the second episode too.
One aspect that was weird to me, was ending on Sabine being stabbed, which we know is potentially fatal, and then opening the next episode with her being totally fine. It defeats all the stakes. Had Sabine been incapacitated the entire episode, nothing would have even changed. I feel like “stay here and do nothing,” is anti-plot, so why not just have her potentially dying or in a bacta tank?
And totally agree on Thrawn being in a different galaxy (far far away). Also, how would an ancient map know that? It just….You know what, never mind. If it didn’t matter to the production, maybe it shouldn’t matter to me.
Oh well…I’ll still watch the rest. I think it falls into the BOBF and Kenobi category: okay to watch but not to think about.
I am really fortunate that im easily pleased. However it doesnt mean that I like everything, I wont justify things like "somehow palpatine has returned" or the vespas on BOBF, but I dont get too critical on stuf like heras eyes or makup.
There are many things to like on this show so far, the music is beautiful, visuals have improved significantly versus prior Live action episodes, the new trio (Baylan, shin and Morgan) dynamic is getting interesting. I also liked the addition of Huyang to the mix as some sort of story teller for those not familiar with Rebels or clonewars.
So far i liked the show and can't wait for the next episode.
There are many things to like on this show so far, the music is beautiful, visuals have improved significantly versus prior Live action episodes, the new trio (Baylan, shin and Morgan) dynamic is getting interesting. I also liked the addition of Huyang to the mix as some sort of story teller for those not familiar with Rebels or clonewars.
So far i liked the show and can't wait for the next episode.
Regarding the map “knowing where Thrawn is”, if you pay attention to the ending credits it shows that long path as the path where the purgils travel. The map is just a way to follow their path, something that as they mention, was told for thousands of years as a fairytale. It’s really got nothing to do with Thrawn other than everyone knows the purgils took him so that’s the path they took.
WolfChuck
New Member
I convinced my wife to sit down and watch the first two episodes with me last night. She's always liked Snips so I thought she might be into it, but it failed to hold her attention. I think I've seen (although not necessarily enjoyed) every SW offering with the exception of the Ewoks films.
Positive:
• Production design continues to shine as it has in all the Disney SW
• Lots of cool ships, costumes, aliens, and locations
• Loved the adaptation of Rebels to live action
• Great acting all around with the material they were given
• "Stop them" action scene in the second episode was genuinely thrilling
• Score was great and very Williams-esque
• Fabulous FX work as usual
Negative (Seemed to me to suffer from a lot of the same problems as the other shows, excluding Andor):
• Lots of secondary characters seemingly just waiting around for something to happen versus having personal agendas (also noticeable in the background characters, again)
• Plodded along with many conversation-led exposition scenes. Would have loved to see a tighter plot with the characterizations actually tied to moving the story forward. Sabine behaving recklessly when trying to access the droid's memory is better than a random scene of her violating traffic laws or
• Bad guys and their minions don't seem different or especially dangerous compared to what we've seen in other shows
• I was hoping we'd get a bit of lighthearted, multifaceted Ahsoka instead of the 100% jaded quiet warrior portrayal we've seen so far. Everyone seems so dour in general and the eps. really lacked the fun of ANH, except maybe in the Chopper/Hera dynamic
• "there are so few Jedi left" but everyone has a lightsaber
• Don't like the idea of Thrawn's location being tied to a "relic" in some kind of aged temple unless it is explained why that macguffin exists. Could have had some kind of espionage plot where new republic scientists are mapping the unknown regions, stumble upon the location of thrawn, and the sensitive information is encoded in some kind of scientific device that then becomes the macguffin
Positive:
• Production design continues to shine as it has in all the Disney SW
• Lots of cool ships, costumes, aliens, and locations
• Loved the adaptation of Rebels to live action
• Great acting all around with the material they were given
• "Stop them" action scene in the second episode was genuinely thrilling
• Score was great and very Williams-esque
• Fabulous FX work as usual
Negative (Seemed to me to suffer from a lot of the same problems as the other shows, excluding Andor):
• Lots of secondary characters seemingly just waiting around for something to happen versus having personal agendas (also noticeable in the background characters, again)
• Plodded along with many conversation-led exposition scenes. Would have loved to see a tighter plot with the characterizations actually tied to moving the story forward. Sabine behaving recklessly when trying to access the droid's memory is better than a random scene of her violating traffic laws or
• Bad guys and their minions don't seem different or especially dangerous compared to what we've seen in other shows
• I was hoping we'd get a bit of lighthearted, multifaceted Ahsoka instead of the 100% jaded quiet warrior portrayal we've seen so far. Everyone seems so dour in general and the eps. really lacked the fun of ANH, except maybe in the Chopper/Hera dynamic
• "there are so few Jedi left" but everyone has a lightsaber
• Don't like the idea of Thrawn's location being tied to a "relic" in some kind of aged temple unless it is explained why that macguffin exists. Could have had some kind of espionage plot where new republic scientists are mapping the unknown regions, stumble upon the location of thrawn, and the sensitive information is encoded in some kind of scientific device that then becomes the macguffin
Somerset
Sr Member
It's not so much the surviving of a stabbing, but the fact that Reva, the Grand Inquisitor, and now Sabine were all up and running around shortly after with no side-effects!
My dad just had key-hole surgery and on the abdomen and was made to mainly do bed-rest with a little shuffling arond for a couple of weeks.
If there was ever a time to bring back Boba's bacta tank of dreams, now was it!
My dad just had key-hole surgery and on the abdomen and was made to mainly do bed-rest with a little shuffling arond for a couple of weeks.
If there was ever a time to bring back Boba's bacta tank of dreams, now was it!
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