Angelus Lupus
Sr Member
Seeing as the Borg Cube was built up of layers and layers of 'sprue' and stuff, there's hopefully a lot of depth and detail waiting to pop out at us in HD.
Star trek: The next generation 25 anniversary
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WinstonWolf359
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That's what I'm hoping/expecting too.
I got my replacement discs on Saturday. It also came with this very well produced Post Card.
I know what you're thinking, because I sure was. Why did they pick such a bland picture of the Enterprise when there are dozens of cooler shots throughout the first season?
Than I turned the card around.
Niiiiiice. It still surprised the heck out of me when I learned that effects shot was a rough pencil animation and not a video template of just some actors walking around a set.
I know what you're thinking, because I sure was. Why did they pick such a bland picture of the Enterprise when there are dozens of cooler shots throughout the first season?
Than I turned the card around.
Niiiiiice. It still surprised the heck out of me when I learned that effects shot was a rough pencil animation and not a video template of just some actors walking around a set.
YenChih Lin
Master Member
a pencil animation?! Wow didn't expected this.
Wow. Very cool. :thumbsup
MisterFubar
New Member
I've got a coworker that has started watching these and every day will come in and want to talk about the episodes he watched the night before. I haven't seen but the occasionally rerun since it originally aired so I'm really having to dig deep to remember some of the stuff he's talking about.
I might have to start watching it again.
I might have to start watching it again.
If you check out the Three Part making of documentary, you'll be able to see the animation in all it's glory. And even knowing full well that it's a rough pencil animation, it still looks very lifelike no matter how I see it. This is the kind of material I love to see in bonus features.
YenChih Lin
Master Member
yeah I thought in the observation lounge they got some actors walking around!
Goonie
Sr Member
So with the replacement discs, who do we contact and how does it work? Do you send the bad discs back? Same procedure for Canada?
I'm done watching disc 3, but so far it was just Haven (if I recall) that I noticed a sound issue (the echo sound at the beginning of the episode). Otherwise, ST: TNG never looked better. Can't wait for Season 2 to come out in December.
I'm done watching disc 3, but so far it was just Haven (if I recall) that I noticed a sound issue (the echo sound at the beginning of the episode). Otherwise, ST: TNG never looked better. Can't wait for Season 2 to come out in December.
Email: phe.stng@bydeluxe.com
Phone: 877-DELUXE6 (877-335-8936) between 8am to 6pm Pacific, Monday-Friday.
If they can't help you out in Canada, they SHOULD be able to tell you where you can get help.
Oh, and it's not just audio issues. There are some missing effects in episodes like 11001001 (missing Starbase lights) and Heart of Glory (A phaser beam is missing). This is why they added disc 5 amongst the other discs that needed replacing.
Trekcore.com is running a five part interview with the team behind the restoration effort. Some very interesting tidbits like how some of the newly recreated effects were done practically, how much time it takes to apply a phaser beam, who to go to when it comes to stock footage from the movies, and how the quality of the prints vary from season to season.
Trekcore interviews CBS-Digital
Trekcore interviews CBS-Digital
Very cool. 
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:thumbsupAlright, here's a fun one.
For those of you who own and have watched the new BluRays, you may notice on rare occasions that some episodes have shots that look excessively soft, even though the said footage is taken from the film source. Well, here's a little video that talks about why that is. As an added bonus, what it looked like without the cropping.
Star Trek TNG in WIDESCREEN
For those of you who own and have watched the new BluRays, you may notice on rare occasions that some episodes have shots that look excessively soft, even though the said footage is taken from the film source. Well, here's a little video that talks about why that is. As an added bonus, what it looked like without the cropping.
Star Trek TNG in WIDESCREEN
Incase anyone was ever curious as to why these season sets are being released at such a high pace for the amount of work that gets put into them, CBS is actually outsourcing the work load to other visual effects and editing companies. CBS Digital (CBS-D) is handling the odd numbered seasons while a different house will be doing the even numbered seasons. After CBS-D got TNG off to a fantastic start with their work on the Season One BluRay release, HTV Illuminate was tasked for handling Season 2. The quality of HTV's work was a bit underwhelming compared to CBS-D's work. There was evidence of digital noise reduction that eliminated some of the grain from the live action shots, some of the film effect shots were warped resulting in the Enterprise D looking fat, the planets were handled by a different artists resulting in a less than impressive planet that looks no better than it did in SD, the new effect shots that had to be recreated digitally had no artificial grain added to keep the quality consistent and they used the wrong film effects shots.
Take for instance the shot of the Enterprise D launching a probe from it's photon torpedo launcher. This was originally done as a matte painting of the Enterprise with a tiny, barely visible probe coming out of the launcher and have a little tiny fire effect emit from it's engine as it passes by the camera. Since the matte painting couldn't be located, HTV had to recreate the Enterprise D digitally as well as the probe. It was probably the worst looking effect on the season 2 set.
When it came time for the same effect shot to be used again in Season 3, CBS-D decided to recreate the effect shot from scratch rather than use any of HTV's work. The result is a far better effect than what HTV presented us and it clearly shows the attention to detail that CBS-D has towards TNG.
TNG Probe Launch Remastered Comparison
Differences:
- Grain has been applied to the shot to keep the quality consistent with the live action shots and other film stock effects.
- The camera has been placed at a slightly lower angle so the blue warp nacelle doesn't conflict with the probe effect.
- The coloring of the Enterprise's hull is a lot more metallic rather than the bright blue plastic look from HTV.
- There's an added lighting effect to the probe's engine so the effect is reflected off the hull of the Enterprise.
- The structure of the Enterprise's hull is a lot more sharp looking compared to the soft and smooth look of HTV's Enterprise.
Take for instance the shot of the Enterprise D launching a probe from it's photon torpedo launcher. This was originally done as a matte painting of the Enterprise with a tiny, barely visible probe coming out of the launcher and have a little tiny fire effect emit from it's engine as it passes by the camera. Since the matte painting couldn't be located, HTV had to recreate the Enterprise D digitally as well as the probe. It was probably the worst looking effect on the season 2 set.
When it came time for the same effect shot to be used again in Season 3, CBS-D decided to recreate the effect shot from scratch rather than use any of HTV's work. The result is a far better effect than what HTV presented us and it clearly shows the attention to detail that CBS-D has towards TNG.
TNG Probe Launch Remastered Comparison
Differences:
- Grain has been applied to the shot to keep the quality consistent with the live action shots and other film stock effects.
- The camera has been placed at a slightly lower angle so the blue warp nacelle doesn't conflict with the probe effect.
- The coloring of the Enterprise's hull is a lot more metallic rather than the bright blue plastic look from HTV.
- There's an added lighting effect to the probe's engine so the effect is reflected off the hull of the Enterprise.
- The structure of the Enterprise's hull is a lot more sharp looking compared to the soft and smooth look of HTV's Enterprise.
What a difference!!!
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