Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

[Cephus]

It's more a matter or how after Discovery and the JJprise dregs, even something "generic" (but at least in the ballpark) feels like a massive improvement.

Not when you have other, better series to watch instead.

 

[asalaw]

HAH! just realized my M’Benga plot totally riffs on the Ripley/Newt plot in Aliens. But hey, if you’re gonna rip off Aliens and have a Newt character, why not rip off the good parts, instead of just doing the crap they did? If you’re gonna steal, steal from the best. Ima go write Macbeth in Space now.

 

[Iskelderon]

HAH! just realized my M’Benga plot totally riffs on the Ripiley/Newt plot in Aliens. But hey, if you’re gonna rip off Aliens and have a Newt character, why not rip off the good parts, instead of just doing the crap they did? If you’re gonna steal, steal from the best. Ima go write Macbeth in Space now.

Yes, but instead of drowning her because the new script was **** they had her pull a Wesley Crusher and she ascended to a different state of being.

 

[Gregatron]

It's more a matter or how after Discovery and the JJprise dregs, even something "generic" (but at least in the ballpark) feels like a massive improvement.

 

[Gregatron]

HAH! just realized my M’Benga plot totally riffs on the Ripley/Newt plot in Aliens. But hey, if you’re gonna rip off Aliens and have a Newt character, why not rip off the good parts, instead of just doing the crap they did? If you’re gonna steal, steal from the best. Ima go write Macbeth in Space now.

“Get away from her, you female Gorn in heat!”

 

[NakedMoleRat]

I’m on season 3 of Sliders right now.

 

[asalaw]

I just finished No Way Home. I totally see how it made $1.9B worldwide. Amazing how so many characters can be so well managed without turning into an unfocused mess. I’m sure it helped they were all established in other movies, but there are still about a billion ways this could have gone sideways. If you had pitched me the concept, I would’ve thrown you out of my office—hell, out the window. Yet they pulled it off.

And Strange New Hair can’t seem to manage a handful of potentially great characters in a well-established universe without leaving most of them completely undeveloped after nine hours. Pathetic.

I could gush about NWH for hours—there’s so much it gets right—but I don’t want to trip the OT alarms…

In other news, Nexstar has reached a deal to “buy” 70% of the CW network for $0 and assumption of $100M in CW debt, so it looks like potentially the only decent writer left in TV, JMS, will be without a home for the B5 reboot. Maybe Strange New hair will take him. God knows they could use the skilled labor.

 

[Mottrex]

Depending on what Pike cooks up in his kitchen, more like Gorn with the Wind.

Gorn on the Cobb springs to mind..

 

[Mottrex]

NEVER.

For those who haven't been paying attention, JJ Abrams is a fraud who's built his career on "adapting" the work of others, and Bad Reboot/Secret Hideout regularly do the same thing. They can't create anything new that has legs, so they just remix and mashup the works of their betters. They acquire franchises, give them a new coat of paint, and run them into the ground before moving on to the next one. They're like locusts.

"Plagarism" might be too kind a word. Of course, the audience they cater to has neither the historical knowledge or the attention-span to notice or care.

They lie, cheat, and steal, and yet people still blindly support them.

Tell it to The Greeks..


They must be Spinning in their Graves, then again they prolly stole those same stories from another older culture.

 

[Iskelderon]

Apparently the writer's explanation for the new depiction of the Gorn is "I couldn't be bothered to think about the context, so I just pulled something out of my ass":

 

[Krieger]

Now I am understandably curious after reading the last few days of posts on this thread and r/StrangeNewWorlds

Will watch it tonight, before the local fireworks

 

[ProfKSergeev]

Apparently the writer's explanation for the new depiction of the Gorn is "I couldn't be bothered to think about the context, so I just pulled something out of my ass":
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Wow. So "willful ignorance" is his excuse. The hacks have fully taken over.

 

[pengbuzz]

HAH! just realized my M’Benga plot totally riffs on the Ripley/Newt plot in Aliens. But hey, if you’re gonna rip off Aliens and have a Newt character, why not rip off the good parts, instead of just doing the crap they did? If you’re gonna steal, steal from the best. Ima go write Macbeth in Space now.

They already did: it's called Macross.

I'm still upset though that they killed off Hemmer so quickly. I mean seriously, while he was a bit haughty and full of himself, he at least made things a bit interesting!

 

[asalaw]

They already did: it's called Macross.

I'm still upset though that they killed off Hemmer so quickly. I mean seriously, while he was a bit haughty and full of himself, he at least made things a bit interesting!

Ah, but did they say “Out, out, damn sunspots!”

I hated Hummer. Well, in fairness, I hate almost all of them. But Hummer was particularly tedious, and all of his dialog was just on-the-nose dreck. If these writers had the first clue how to write subtext, he could have been much more mysterious and interesting.

 

[ALLEY]

I’m going to park this video here, just to because I know it’s going to kick up some dust in this thread…

Yeah, I’m a real jerk and a troll, sometimes.

 

[asalaw]

Yeah, they’re free to make their own show (even though it’s not really “their own” original show, is it?), and they’re free to make it as crapulent as they want. And we’re free to expose it for the utter s***show that it is. What a great country, eh?

 

[Cephus]

They already did: it's called Macross.

I'm still upset though that they killed off Hemmer so quickly. I mean seriously, while he was a bit haughty and full of himself, he at least made things a bit interesting!

At least he was something original. Considering how much this show rips off everything, badly, at least Hemmer was a breath of fresh air among the stench.

 

[Cephus]

I’m going to park this video here, just to because I know it’s going to kick up some dust in this thread…

Yeah, I’m a real jerk and a troll, sometimes.

Steve Shives is now and has always been an *******.

 

[asalaw]

Steve Shives is now and has always been an *******.

Never heard of him. But he seems to be one of those people who resent any criticism of things they love, even when it’s utter crap, and lash out in a rage at the critics. We’ve seen it right here in this thread. The amusing part is the supercilious tone—as if he’s convinced he’s an anointed genius, and everyone who criticizes Strange New Hair is an idiot.

And of course, there’s the predictable “you’ll take whatever crap we give you, and you’ll like it” haughtiness we often get from studios and their shills. Marie Antoinette never really said “Let them eat cake,“ but the studios say it every day.

I remember Roberto Orci once losing it—on Twitter, I think—when fans were criticizing one of his reboot movies. He basically said that there’s a reason he’s paid the big bucks to write those things, and we, the great unwashed, are not.

My response to that sort of nonsense is that rising to the top of a system that rewards mediocrity is nothing to brag about.

 

[Picard102]

My response to that sort of nonsense is that rising to the top of a system that rewards mediocrity is nothing to brag about.

Sitting at the bottom having done nothing isn't either.