Star Trek Into Darkness (Post-release)

The fact that STID is doing better box office in "foreign" markets than it is domestically seems to contradict this.

Go compare the overseas dollars and percentages compared to domestic made by the other movies I mentioned. ST is close to 50/50. That is considered poor overseas box office. ST box office is around double the budget, which is .....well below expectations. The others hover around three times the budget. For crying out loud, Hansel and Gretel made a friggin fortune. Hansel and Gretel! What has this world come to?

Sigh.
 
So instead of a four year wait, it will be a five year wait...... By the time we get to the next film, the whole "five year mission" will be over. Well, it would give them an excuse to resort to Earth again.

With some of the non-original writing that was in this one, would it surprise you?
 
Go compare the overseas dollars and percentages compared to domestic made by the other movies I mentioned. ST is close to 50/50. That is considered poor overseas box office. ST box office is around double the budget, which is .....well below expectations. The others hover around three times the budget. For crying out loud, Hansel and Gretel made a friggin fortune. Hansel and Gretel! What has this world come to?

Sigh.

Then isn't this the 'proof' that 'box-office' numbers do not reflect quality?
 
What, and muddy-up the conversation by introducing actual statistics and figures? Are we doing that here now? :D

I was quite happy thinking Hansel and Gretel was a bomb before I checked the figures. I also thought Star Trek was doing better than it is. I should have ignored those stats and figures and stayed with my gut. Fluffy bunnies and so on.
 
I was quite happy thinking Hansel and Gretel was a bomb before I checked the figures...
They would have to pay me to watch Hansel and Gretel. It might be a better movie than the trailers led me to believe, but I'll never know unless it's on tv on a really slow night and I have nothing better to do.
 
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Despite many people's misgivings I'm for anything that successfully continues the Star Trek presence in popular culture. I may not be a huge fan of the films but it means that the brand stays around and could hopefully get more use in the future.

The single most important statement in this thread. Couldn't agree more.
 
From the "for what it's worth" file, my dad, an OG Star Trek fan who took me to see V and VI in theatres when I was a kid, loved it. My roommate, whom is not a big Trek fan, really liked it, and has borrowed my TOS film blu-ray set. I saw it again last weekend, still enjoyed it!
 
Despite many people's misgivings I'm for anything that successfully continues the Star Trek presence in popular culture. I may not be a huge fan of the films but it means that the brand stays around and could hopefully get more use in the future.
Someone on another forum posted that they'd read something to the effect that Paramount was considering television for any future Trek productions. I suppose time will tell whether or not that happens and/or what form it'll take.
 
Someone on another forum posted that they'd read something to the effect that Paramount was considering television for any future Trek productions. I suppose time will tell whether or not that happens and/or what form it'll take.

If I were Paramount I'd be eyeing something animated along the lines of Clone Wars. Not exactly what I'd want to see but it could be quite successful.
 
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Despite many people's misgivings I'm for anything that successfully continues the Star Trek presence in popular culture. I may not be a huge fan of the films but it means that the brand stays around and could hopefully get more use in the future.

Unless we get more crap like "The Angry Bitterness of John Harrison" at which point I'd rather Star Trek is just left alone to be started up again when better people with better ideas comes along. Bad Trek is worse than no Trek. Let them do what they did with the relaunch of Doctor Who.
 
Unless we get more crap like "The Angry Bitterness of John Harrison" at which point I'd rather Star Trek is just left alone to be started up again when better people with better ideas comes along. Bad Trek is worse than no Trek. Let them do what they did with the relaunch of Doctor Who.

Although I wasn't a fan of the most recent film it's hardly the worst Star Trek film and it did finally set up a five year exploration mission...
 
Although I wasn't a fan of the most recent film it's hardly the worst Star Trek film and it did finally set up a five year exploration mission...

I'm so amused people keep bringing that up, because that's what they should have done in the FIRST FIVE MINUTES OF THE FIRST MOVIE and skipped the Nero crap and just given us new early adventures of the Enterprise crew set in the same timeline. Too bad you had to sit through two bad movies and wait 5 years (plus how long it takes for them to make a new on which will probably still be set entirely on Earth) for them to get to the movie you WANTED to see, eh?
 
I'm so amused people keep bringing that up, because that's what they should have done in the FIRST FIVE MINUTES OF THE FIRST MOVIE and skipped the Nero crap and just given us new early adventures of the Enterprise crew set in the same timeline. Too bad you had to sit through two bad movies and wait 5 years (plus how long it takes for them to make a new on which will probably still be set entirely on Earth) for them to get to the movie you WANTED to see, eh?

It's not a defense of anything, it's hope for the franchise.
 
Unless we get more crap like "The Angry Bitterness of John Harrison"...

Man, you are in live with that little quip aren't you?! LOL!

The film you dislike so much is now at $413M worldwide and still ranks 8th at the box office as of yesterday since it's release. That kind of staying power is a real testament to good word of mouth.

You really need to learn to think beyond your own prejudices and predispositions. You didn't enjoy these films, we got it. Most fans did. You don't need to agree but you do need to accept that.
 
I think the problems with this Star Trek domestic box office performance not being as “stratospherically” high In the US as hoped could be due to a few different factors. Still, as its been said it is now the “biggest” of the series and still doing well around the world outside the US homelands.
I don’t think the “terrorists” plot line played well with the home crowd and it certainly doesn’t seem to have been widely accepted most of the ardent Trek fans. Why? I guess a lot of people like to go and see a film to get a break from the real world and unfortunately I think timing wise, this kind of storyline cut a little to close to events and politics in real time, coming so close on heels of the Boston bombing. So subconsciously perhaps or not , maybe the trailer, the terrorist angle, and the darker “realistic” tone of the film may have hurt it ,particularly with the wider public who may just have wanted a more pure escapist and positive story timing wise.
Secondly, the story didn’t seem to significantly move the New Trek universe forward enough for a lot of people. In fact, rather than taking a risk most seem to think its deferential nods to “old” storylines probably did it more of a disservice than any brand new story attempt, as with the first one. More than a few decades have passed since the original Khan in the series and WOK in the cinema and the Harrison “reveal” really didn’t have any relevance for a lot of people.
Like a lot of others I suspect they would have been far better off doing the “five year” mission version THEN coming back to revisit alternatives of the “older” storylines later. Personally I thought the playfully inventive daftness of the opening sequence should have been the way the rest of the film carried on. Compared to the rest of the film, this seems to have been the preferred “remembered” segment with most people, and I certainly enjoyed hugely, as controversial as the Undersea Enterprise was with some fans. None trekkies are fine with it. But hey, considering the Enterprise escaped from the gravitation pull of a Black hole by riding the wave of a cataclysmic anti matter explosion , whats a little Earth gravity and sea water going to do?
I still rate this as a great, great Trek though, and the only one I ever actually went to see twice, although second time around the spectacle some of the weaknesses of the story were more telling. I really do hope they do a third
 
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