SCREEN USED P1 MASK UP FOR AUCTION

TuaCathach · Sep 28, 2009

hey guys i meant to post this a few days ago...

while reading one of the natinal tabloids in Ireland i came across a piece which seems to imply that the Screen used P1 Mask is going up for auction.. There are other pieces aswell such as an ET statue and Elvis stuff...

Details are very Sketchy apart from its taking place in October in L.A.

I'll have a dig up for the article and post it...

in the interim if anyone knows anything else or can find out anything keep us all posted..

Usurper · Sep 28, 2009

How cool would it be to own a REAL screen used mask

i dred ( pun intended ) to think what that will go for.

ptgreek · Sep 28, 2009

I think there is a thread up in the auction area, but yes ..the Winstons are auctioning off most of the cool stuff you see in the SWS viewing room..and then some

TuaCathach · Sep 28, 2009

cool...

here's the piece from the paper aswell as the pic of the pred head they have... looks like a bust..

man it would be so cool to own a screen used mask..

PredatrHuntr · Sep 28, 2009

The last pic I saw of a screen used Bio it looked very run down with paint coming off in chunks. It made me very sad to see, but its to be expected with something that old.

carlart · Sep 29, 2009

I have spoken with one of the guys over at Stan's who was involved with the first pred film. He told me the mask(s) were thrown away not long after the film came out because of the inherent degradation of foam latex. He said they had become all moldy, etc.
Unless any of those several masks were encased in shellac, survivability all this time is practically nill. By mask they must mean bio.
Lastly, the photo on the ad looks an awful lot like the Sideshow P1 bust.

UglyMoFo · Sep 29, 2009

carlart said:
Lastly, the photo on the ad looks an awful lot like the Sideshow P1 bust.

Can you say stock photo?

It's still sad to see this stuff being sold off. The end of a dynasty I suppose...

PredatrHuntr · Sep 29, 2009

This is the last known picture of a screen used P1. No idea when it was taken or where it ended up:

Mr Fett · Sep 29, 2009

As beat up as that bio is, it's still great painting reference.

hez1 · Sep 29, 2009

Isn't that the one that HCG used for their super duper P1 bio display? I recognise the non-ribbed temple piece. If I won the lottery I would pony up whatever it took...

Wolfie1381 · Sep 29, 2009

if you look at the auction pics, i believe that's not a "mask" at all, it's the face shot of the full size Pred w/ the spear etc. typical accurate reporting of the daily mirror, frankly.

Ice1 · Sep 30, 2009

hez said:
Isn't that the one that HCG used for their super duper P1 bio display? I recognise the non-ribbed temple piece. If I won the lottery I would pony up whatever it took...

Yeah that's the one HCG used for their P1 display. Faken posted that picture up, when the bust was in the talks. Their was a thread talking about it, in here some where.

Mr Fett · Sep 30, 2009

hez said:
Isn't that the one that HCG used for their super duper P1 bio display? I recognise the non-ribbed temple piece. If I won the lottery I would pony up whatever it took...

Don't you already own a mold for the P1 stunt helmet, Hez? Wouldn't they already both be the same size?

hez1 · Sep 30, 2009

Mr Fett said:
Don't you already own a mold for the P1 stunt helmet, Hez? Wouldn't they already both be the same size?

I do, and I would imagine they are the same size, I haven't had the chance to examine one of the HCG bios to confirm it though. Sure would be nice to own a screen used bio though!

Predian · Sep 30, 2009

That P1 helmet pictured is the one John Rosengrant has and photographed quite recently. I have four P1 original dreads, all have a piece of white string built into the centre of the lenght, they are a bit crumbly. From the pieces I have and others I have seen the main cause of deterioration is how much they got wet on set as well as the acidic properties of the actor's sweat. They have more chance of surviving than the materials of some modern suits like the ones in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy which break down very quickly. If the latex is already dried out it can be sealed, which I had to do to my P2 head's neck rings.
Remember the AVP PC game's promotional standee?

The Alien is that of the Stan Winston display room and I'm certain that the P1 must be the full suit owned by Arnie. That game was ten years ago and the costume looks pretty good then.

Mr Fett · Sep 30, 2009

With the string running down the center of each dread, I'm curious how they attached the dreads onto the mask now.

Unforgiven Hunter · Sep 30, 2009

Maybe they tied them all together on the inside of the mask

-Chris

PredatrHuntr · Sep 30, 2009

Predian said:
That P1 helmet pictured is the one John Rosengrant has and photographed quite recently. I have four P1 original dreads, all have a piece of white string built into the centre of the lenght, they are a bit crumbly. From the pieces I have and others I have seen the main cause of deterioration is how much they got wet on set as well as the acidic properties of the actor's sweat. They have more chance of surviving than the materials of some modern suits like the ones in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy which break down very quickly. If the latex is already dried out it can be sealed, which I had to do to my P2 head's neck rings.
Remember the AVP PC game's promotional standee?

The Alien is that of the Stan Winston display room and I'm certain that the P1 must be the full suit owned by Arnie. That game was ten years ago and the costume looks pretty good then.

Do you have pics of your dreads that we can see?

Mr Fett · Sep 30, 2009

I'll say this since I've seen pics of other screen used P1 dreads before. To date, still the most movie accurate P1 dreads I've seen are the very first set of dreads DB produced with his old version 1 mask. The real movie P1 dreads had the rings sculpted in as part of the dread, so that alone makes the old DB ones more accurate than anyone else who makes separate resin dread rings for P1 masks.

It's funny because even though materials have changed a bit over time with the different dread makers, those old first edition DB dreads were the first "fan made" dreads that came out. Everyone else at the time used backer rod. So being the original dreads for our "market", they still are more movie accurate for P1 than anyone else's dreads that have been mass produced since.

.....and since I'm on a current rant about dreads, the P1 and P2 dreads were NOT SMOOTH. Straight from the studio before even being used on screen, they have more of a textured type of surface (yes, even the Winston crew got air bubbles and wrinkles in their dreads and they are the pros). Only the AVP/AVPR dreads are smooth. It seems everyone wants the smooth dreads for their suits, but if they are trying to make accurate P1 or P2 suits, the really smooth dreads are the least accurate dreads you can use!!!